How many on this board watches the NBA?
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I used to LOVE the NBA, never as much as the college game but for me the NBA was just behind college basketball and the NFL. But what really changed for me was the NBA went from featuring its teams to featuring its individual players, it went from a team game to more of a one on one affair. And that was fine if that were the only thing but the young kids, middle school and up seemed to me to lose the team concept and become more individual players. They seemed to try to copy the individual player attitude they saw from NBA role models, it became more about them as individual players than their team.
Now you have players dictating how coaches can coach their team or the player will have the coach fired? You have players forming their own teams, demanding who their team will sign? Now you see college recruiting reflect that in all the package deals recruits are forming and you see recruits now making business decisions as opposed to wanting to play for love of school or their team. You now have recruits telling college coaches what positions they will play who they will play with, basically, as I see in the NBA, players feeling they can and will do the coaches job?
I see the game I love above all others now being negatively effected by what NBA players are doing and I do not like it, do not like it at all and yes, I blame the NBA for it.
Now you have players dictating how coaches can coach their team or the player will have the coach fired? You have players forming their own teams, demanding who their team will sign? Now you see college recruiting reflect that in all the package deals recruits are forming and you see recruits now making business decisions as opposed to wanting to play for love of school or their team. You now have recruits telling college coaches what positions they will play who they will play with, basically, as I see in the NBA, players feeling they can and will do the coaches job?
I see the game I love above all others now being negatively effected by what NBA players are doing and I do not like it, do not like it at all and yes, I blame the NBA for it.
the quality of basketball is much better in the NBA than college, but yes the regular season does get boring and alot of guys dont care to play defense until the 4th quarter
They don't play defense for three fourths of the game and the quality of basketball is much better than college ball?
That just isn't true. They play plenty of defense, great defense. They are just playing against the best offensive players in the world.
Not my statement (note the question mark). Actually the no defense until the 4th quarter in reg. season games is consistent with what little NBA I watch. It's the quality of basketball part that I was asking about.
There is no right answer by the way. It depends on individual preferences and experience. For example I still prefer pre-shot clock and pre- 3 point shot college rules, freshman ineligibility, and doing away with summer ball other than a few skills camps and USA basketball if coached by non-collegiate coaches. I don't care if I never see OAD's play in college (or the NBA for that matter). I love the game, the rivalries, and seeing the kids grow up over the years. Thats just me. Others are welcome to continue to support the present system.
I don't think the present system is good for the kids. Yes it makes some rich but only a tiny fraction and many of those are unprepared for the sudden wealth and are soon broke with no other skills or education to fall back on.
As far as summer ball goes it may sharpen skills (only in a few cases as the coaching is hit or miss) but playing 24-7-365 is physically damaging as evidenced by the frequency of knee and foot injuries we are seeing on the high school level. Plus, when do these kids get to be kids, develop social skills and other valuable lessons of childhood. They spend their lives playing a sport and if they're not a top 20- 5 star at it they are faced with moving to Ubeckybeckystan or finding a job for which they are totally unprepared.
Most of this I blame on the greed of the current system and I blame that on everyone who's making a buck off this system, College presidents included.
Ok, I'm slowing stepping off the soapbox.
Yeah, I'm with you there. I couldn't care less whether the OAD guys play college or not. I don't mind it but find it unfair to the players tbh. I completely disagree with how much D is played at the next level though. Most of the time they go at it pretty hard on both sides of the ball. There are players, especially veterans, who pace themselves. Mostly, guys play good, hard defense all game long though. I think the quality of game is tremendously better in the NBA though I like college way better. I feel the same way about football as well.
Sounds like you know much more about the current NBA game than I so you're probably right. I tried to watch the playoffs but couldn't get through an entire game and gave up.
I have times where I really get into the NBA and others where Im bored to tears. For some reason this past playoffs I felt like I was watching poor quality basketball with some sloppy play all around, and found it hard to stay engaged until some of the finals games. I remember a few years ago I watched most of the early round games and was really into it, felt like a higher level of play for some reason. I do agree they are playing a lot of defense, although Im sure during the season its on and off. It does seem to be a pretty watered down product outside the top 6-10 teams. The OAD rule does not help the quality of play in my opinion.
I do care about players being able to enter the NBA directly out of high school, I have changed my thinking on this over the years. Yesterday, we saw a NBA great retire, one of the ever at his position, last season we saw the same from another NBA legend and one of the best at his position ever as well. Both Kevin Garnett and Kobe have something in common other than just being great NBA players that had hall of fame careers, neither played a single day of college basketball. They have this fact in common with the acknowledged best payer in the game today in lebron.
So to say todays kids should not have the right to enter their preferred fields work force at an age that other NBA hall of famers and the best player in the game today actually did is warped and badly wrong. You can die for your country but you can't play in the NBA at 18 even thou Hall of Fame players proved you not only could but could at a very high level?
While there are many fields of employment that require specialized study and knowledge before you can enter for pay, basketball just is not one of them. Silicon Valley can pay a kid in high school hundreds of thousands of dollars to write programs for them but a kid from the inner city can not play basketball for the value of his ability?
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