How Much Are We Willing to Pay? Do We Have Enough?

[What Would Jesus Do?]

The new question in today's world is whether players like Ian and Drake make more money sticking with the college game for another year. Now that the mock drafts have cooled on our freshmen a bit, sticking around may be more appealing. Assuming, that is, that we have enough money to keep them and pick up 3-4 top targets in the portal.

Do we have $1-2 million each to keep Ian, Drake and don't forget Elliot on the roster?

Who else will we need to provide big bucks to keep? Seth, probably. Lubin? JWash?

Will we even try to keep Cade - and will he want to stay if we try? I still think he could do well somewhere - but I don't think it's here.

What about the lower rungs of our roster. Brown. High. Who am I forgetting?

Portal ~ $6 million
Returners ~ $6 million
TOTAL ~ $12 million

Plus all the salaries for the new GM and staff.

Is that in the right ball park? Or am I kidding myself that we can get off that easy?

Do we have that much to play with?

 

[Oak ridger]

The new question in today's world is whether players like Ian and Drake make more money sticking with the college game for another year. Now that the mock drafts have cooled on our freshmen a bit, sticking around may be more appealing. Assuming, that is, that we have enough money to keep them and pick up 3-4 top targets in the portal.

Do we have $1-2 million each to keep Ian, Drake and don't forget Elliot on the roster?

Who else will we need to provide big bucks to keep? Seth, probably. Lubin? JWash?

Will we even try to keep Cade - and will he want to stay if we try? I still think he could do well somewhere - but I don't think it's here.

What about the lower rungs of our roster. Brown. High. Who am I forgetting?

Portal ~ $6 million
Returners ~ $6 million
TOTAL ~ $12 million

Plus all the salaries for the new GM and staff.

Is that in the right ball park? Or am I kidding myself that we can get off that easy?

Do we have that much to play with?

Good question to ask. $12 million seems to be on the low side (mid-major).

 

[NorCalTarheel]

With the way NIL is today, if you are not a top five pick, financially it makes sense to stay in school. I will always rue Harrison Ingram leaving Carolina to go to the NBA. His salary this year is $578,577. According to who you listen to, and admittedly I have no facts, Cade Tyson makes more than him.

I think Drake and Ian would benefit dramatically, both financially and developmentally, to return to school. Whether that is at Carolina is another question. I think Drake is a no-brainer to stay at UNC. Ian seemed very checked out and hesitant to buy in defensively. I hope to be pleasantly surprised but I do not see him at Carolina next year.

If this season has shown us nothing else, it is that we MUST have a quality big or two. We HAVE to get a portal big. Give me Elliot, Ian, Drake, Caleb and a stud big and we will win plenty of games. I say we try our hardest to keep Seth and Lubin. Would love to have Brown stick around. I'd welcome High back. I think JWash needs to either transfer to a mid major or be ready for even less of a role then he has now (shoot, even DSouth has given up on him!).

I will be ecstatic if we get in the tournament. I do think we can win a few games if we make it. I'm not holding my breath and think that it is time to rebuild for next year and focus on portal and let our new GM make a splash or two.

 

[strummingram]

They're going to need twice as much... 20-30 million easy.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

According to SI, the last guy in the first round last year got $2.5 million. And then they said this about the 2nd round.

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Jalen Pickett was picked No. 32 overall in the 2023 NBA draft and signed a four-year $8.2 million contract with the Denver Nuggets that came with $5.8 million guaranteed. Denver clearly thought highly of him. Conversely, the last pick in the second round of last year's draft, Chris Livingston, got a four-year deal from the Milwaukee Bucks worth $7.6 million in total and included $3.01 million guaranteed.​

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[WoadBlue]

THE issue with any discussion of spending on basketball must start with the need to fund football rightly, which UNC has NEVER done. The ACC and UNC choosing to elevate basketball is the reason that the ACC its now on the chopping block and easily could end up as dead as the SWC or else as permanently afterward irrelevant as the PAC.

 

[NorCalTarheel]

Harrison Ingram Salary - SalarySwish - NBA Salary Caps

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Again, I don't do H.I.'s taxes but he was 2nd round and multiple sites show his salary as $578,577 with $77,500 guaranteed.

The guy drafted one spot earlier by the Pelicans got $5.4M!!! Bad agent?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

THE issue with any discussion of spending on basketball must start with the need to fund football rightly, which UNC has NEVER done. The ACC and UNC choosing to elevate basketball is the reason that the ACC its now on the chopping block and easily could end up as dead as the SWC or else as permanently afterward irrelevant as the PAC.

How much are we expected to spend on football players?

Not that I think there ought to be any linkage; just curious.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Harrison Ingram Salary - SalarySwish - NBA Salary Caps

Harrison Ingram salary, contract, stats including future, current, and historic NBA contract history

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Again, I don't do H.I.'s taxes but he was 2nd round and multiple sites show his salary as $578,577 with $77,500 guaranteed.

The guy drafted one spot earlier by the Pelicans got $5.4M!!! Bad agent?

Please don't tell me Tanner was his agent.

 

[NorCalTarheel]

Please don't tell me Tanner was his agent.

I had to look that up because that would have been the irony of all ironies. Fortunately, Harrison is not represented by Tanner. He is represented by Klutch sports, LeBron's agent and friend.

 

[Quest4Seven]

People want Zayden High back? Do you guys ever learn?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

People want Zayden High back? Do you guys ever learn?

He's probably cheap or free at this stage. So why not? Is there any reason to think we'll run out of scholarships?

 

[Kool1234567]

They're going to need twice as much... 20-30 million easy.

😂😂😂😂That ain’t happening….

 

[lewisj008]

He's probably cheap or free at this stage. So why not? Is there any reason to think we'll run out of scholarships?

I also thought that next year, each school will now have 15 scholarships. So, if that's the case, why not bring him back, you cannot run out of scholarships if you have 15.

 

[Spaceytoyz]

People want Zayden High back? Do you guys ever learn?

He would have been productive on the boards this year

He’s limited offensively and he fouls a lot but he would have helped

 

[Quest4Seven]

He's probably cheap or free at this stage. So why not? Is there any reason to think we'll run out of scholarships?

We shouldnt take any of our bigs back other than VAL as a backup big in the Justin Knox role. No more of these tweeners like JWash and High that arent big enough or physical enough to actually play in the paint

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

We shouldnt take any of our bigs back other than VAL as a backup big in the Justin Knox role. No more of these tweeners like JWash and High that arent big enough or physical enough to actually play in the paint

If High comes back having added 20 pounds of muscle, he'll be fine. Good motor. I worry a bit about his impulse control, but maybe he's addressed that. We'll see.

 

[superstar57]

If we are serious about retaining both Powell and Jackson at minimum your looking at 3 million divided two ways. Seth could cost you 1.5 himself. EC is a lifer, but that should still get him very high six figures. We already paid for Caleb. The rest of our scholarship players are going to want between 100k- 250k. Got to pay for a couple or if room allows 3 forwards/centers, that may cost 4million for 3 of them.

I'm thinking 18 million can build a solid squad.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I also thought that next year, each school will now have 15 scholarships. So, if that's the case, why not bring him back, you cannot run out of scholarships if you have 15.

Looks like you're right about that.

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[gauchoheel]

With the way NIL is today, if you are not a top five pick, financially it makes sense to stay in school. I will always rue Harrison Ingram leaving Carolina to go to the NBA. His salary this year is $578,577. According to who you listen to, and admittedly I have no facts, Cade Tyson makes more than him.

I think Drake and Ian would benefit dramatically, both financially and developmentally, to return to school. Whether that is at Carolina is another question. I think Drake is a no-brainer to stay at UNC. Ian seemed very checked out and hesitant to buy in defensively. I hope to be pleasantly surprised but I do not see him at Carolina next year.

If this season has shown us nothing else, it is that we MUST have a quality big or two. We HAVE to get a portal big. Give me Elliot, Ian, Drake, Caleb and a stud big and we will win plenty of games. I say we try our hardest to keep Seth and Lubin. Would love to have Brown stick around. I'd welcome High back. I think JWash needs to either transfer to a mid major or be ready for even less of a role then he has now (shoot, even DSouth has given up on him!).

I will be ecstatic if we get in the tournament. I do think we can win a few games if we make it. I'm not holding my breath and think that it is time to rebuild for next year and focus on portal and let our new GM make a splash or two.

Sorry, but your first paragraph is a silly take. The #6 overall pick gets essentially $26M guaranteed; a 4 year contract for $6.5M a year. The last two years are technically not guaranteed as they're options, but in practice they almost always are exercised as long as there's not a devastating injury. This is oodles more than any college player is getting. And what's more, it gets the clock started on free agency, where even a good starter (forget All-Star status) can make $20M+ a season. It makes very little sense for any lotto pick to stay in college ever.

The LAST pick of the first round (pick #30) gets a 4 year contract for about $9M ($2.25M a year). If my 19 year-old son could get that offer... well he'd need a mighty compelling college package to turn that down. Especially considering the aforementioned accelerated free agency timeline and the ability to fully focus on basketball. I don't think a similar annual salary ($2.25M) in college would cut it. You have some additional upside with the college route via a higher draft spot, but $9M locked in is plenty to make it not worth risking ending up not making the league later on.

Frankly, I think anyone that can get drafted in the first round should probably leave, and the top 5-10 second round picks often get paid large amounts too (e.g., Kyle Filipowski signed a 2 year contract for $6M at pick #32; Johnny Furphy signed a 3 year contract for $6.5M at pick #35). It's only once you're at the mid-2nd round where college starts being much more comparable or even potentially better.

 

[gauchoheel]

The new question in today's world is whether players like Ian and Drake make more money sticking with the college game for another year. Now that the mock drafts have cooled on our freshmen a bit, sticking around may be more appealing. Assuming, that is, that we have enough money to keep them and pick up 3-4 top targets in the portal.

Do we have $1-2 million each to keep Ian, Drake and don't forget Elliot on the roster?

Who else will we need to provide big bucks to keep? Seth, probably. Lubin? JWash?

Will we even try to keep Cade - and will he want to stay if we try? I still think he could do well somewhere - but I don't think it's here.

What about the lower rungs of our roster. Brown. High. Who am I forgetting?

Portal ~ $6 million
Returners ~ $6 million
TOTAL ~ $12 million

Plus all the salaries for the new GM and staff.

Is that in the right ball park? Or am I kidding myself that we can get off that easy?

Do we have that much to play with?

I doubt we're keeping both Ian and Drake. Wouldn't be shocked if both leave for the NBA, but I think retaining one would be a good outcome.

Lubin and especially Washington wouldn't crack the rotation on the best Carolina teams. I could see giving Lubin a little money to have a solid backup but there's something terribly wrong if either of them are close to "big bucks". And I don't even think Cade is worth discussing; hopefully whatever contract he signed didn't include any guaranteed money for a 2nd year, and he can try his luck elsewhere.

Cadeau and Seth are both worth keeping in a vacuum, but Hubert (I'm assuming he stays?) needs to think very deeply about the construction of the team. This year's squad was plenty talented enough to be a top ~15 team on paper, but the pieces fit horribly together. Cadeau/RJ/Seth are way too small, and taking the only shooter out of that trio makes for an even worse offensive fit. We need to get bigger in both the backcourt and the frontcourt, and so far next year looks terribly light on shooting. A starting 5 including Cadeau, Trimble, Wilson, and a non-shooting center is a horrible offensive fit. And if Trimble isn't starting, he probably doesn't really deserve "big bucks". So I think it might be tough to make a team that includes both Cadeau and Trimble if we're trying to maximize winning games, which should be the point rather than just blindly retaining previous players.

Personally, were it me I'd try for 1) Cadeau, 2) a SG transfer with plus size and shooting, 3) Drake, 4) Wilson, and 5) a high-end rim protecting transfer center. Then given that group you definitely need 6) a combo guard and 7) a big wing, at least one of whom needs to be a great shooter given the rest of the roster. If #6 is Trimble, #7 needs to be a big athletic guy who can shoot, which is pretty difficult to find (the NBA tends to like that mix of traits...), but maybe.

If you can do all that and still afford to keep Lubin as the 8th man, great. If not, find another capable backup center, but I'd prioritize those seven spots.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I doubt we're keeping both Ian and Drake. Wouldn't be shocked if both leave for the NBA, but I think retaining one would be a good outcome.

Lubin and especially Washington wouldn't crack the rotation on the best Carolina teams. I could see giving Lubin a little money to have a solid backup but there's something terribly wrong if either of them are close to "big bucks". And I don't even think Cade is worth discussing; hopefully whatever contract he signed didn't include any guaranteed money for a 2nd year, and he can try his luck elsewhere.

Cadeau and Seth are both worth keeping in a vacuum, but Hubert (I'm assuming he stays?) needs to think very deeply about the construction of the team. This year's squad was plenty talented enough to be a top ~15 team on paper, but the pieces fit horribly together. Cadeau/RJ/Seth are way too small, and taking the only shooter out of that trio makes for an even worse offensive fit. We need to get bigger in both the backcourt and the frontcourt, and so far next year looks terribly light on shooting. A starting 5 including Cadeau, Trimble, Wilson, and a non-shooting center is a horrible offensive fit. And if Trimble isn't starting, he probably doesn't really deserve "big bucks". So I think it might be tough to make a team that includes both Cadeau and Trimble if we're trying to maximize winning games, which should be the point rather than just blindly retaining previous players.

Personally, were it me I'd try for 1) Cadeau, 2) a SG transfer with plus size and shooting, 3) Drake, 4) Wilson, and 5) a high-end rim protecting transfer center. Then given that group you definitely need 6) a combo guard and 7) a big wing, at least one of whom needs to be a great shooter given the rest of the roster. If #6 is Trimble, #7 needs to be a big athletic guy who can shoot, which is pretty difficult to find (the NBA tends to like that mix of traits...), but maybe.

If you can do all that and still afford to keep Lubin as the 8th man, great. If not, find another capable backup center, but I'd prioritize those seven spots.

I'd keep Lubin (and work on his hands all summer). Partly because Cadeau seems to be looking for him more recently, with good results.

It sounds like you don't expect much of Denis/Dixon as frosh. I agree that we shouldn't put all our eggs in that basket, but I expect them both to be pretty good - strong off the bench at the least. Not that I have any inside info.

While I agree with most of your take, I worry that we lose Trimble if we make it clear he'll be coming off the bench. Will a "SG transfer with plus size and shooting" join us to come off the bench? At worst you have to tell Seth that the starting job is his to lose.

 

[WoadBlue]

How much are we expected to spend on football players?

Not that I think there ought to be any linkage; just curious.

It is not just NIL for players. It is all that is part of funding football for true Major conference status. And if what we see this tear with SEC basketball the best regular season by baby league in history doe snot tell you that football is AUTOCRAT and also must be funded to be BIG or else the school and league b alsetball also will get. weaker and weaker, then nothing will, even death of the league.

 

[DSouthr]

With the way NIL is today, if you are not a top five pick, financially it makes sense to stay in school. I will always rue Harrison Ingram leaving Carolina to go to the NBA. His salary this year is $578,577. According to who you listen to, and admittedly I have no facts, Cade Tyson makes more than him.

I think Drake and Ian would benefit dramatically, both financially and developmentally, to return to school. Whether that is at Carolina is another question. I think Drake is a no-brainer to stay at UNC. Ian seemed very checked out and hesitant to buy in defensively. I hope to be pleasantly surprised but I do not see him at Carolina next year.

If this season has shown us nothing else, it is that we MUST have a quality big or two. We HAVE to get a portal big. Give me Elliot, Ian, Drake, Caleb and a stud big and we will win plenty of games. I say we try our hardest to keep Seth and Lubin. Would love to have Brown stick around. I'd welcome High back. I think JWash needs to either transfer to a mid major or be ready for even less of a role then he has now (shoot, even DSouth has given up on him!).

I will be ecstatic if we get in the tournament. I do think we can win a few games if we make it. I'm not holding my breath and think that it is time to rebuild for next year and focus on portal and let our new GM make a splash or two.

Can't forget, we already have 1 new big on the way in Wilson thou I am intrigued that maybe his better position may be the 3, especially if Drake does leave. I think we need 2 starter quality big men simply because I can not trust JWash, High, James Brown, or Tyson to give us what we need. JWash has been given every opportunity, I like the kid but this is about results, it isn't so much my giving up on him as it is the results just are not there and he has had more than enough chances.

I think we absolutely MUST have a starter quality PG, not a combo but a PG and I would hope that PG would not be from the University of Lilliput. I can't trust that Cadeau will be able to stay on the floor for 30+ every game. To often we have seen him find quick foul trouble, find spots where his head just blows up, to often this season our best line up was with Cadeau on the bench. That is just a reality I would not want to argue against and darn sure could not risk.

This is where it gets down to hard decisions, Lubin and Tyson. Tyson, should have to take a hard cut in NIL, if you can't accept that then enter the portal. Lubin is the hard one, kid has earned a strong NIL but I htink most would agree, we simply need to get longer at the 5, how many UNC fans could watch us pay tyhis season and not agree, we must get bigger at the 5, so what do you do with Lubin. Well the clear solution would be move him to the 4 where he physically matches up better. If Dean or Roy were our head coach the solution is easy but Hubert is the coach. We know full well that Hubert wants a stretch 4, in other words a 4 that is a solid jump shooter out to the 3pt line , that isn't Lubin. Do you invest heavy in a smallish 5 or a power forward that is not a stretch guy knowing Hubert is the coach, I couldn't. I think he deserves better than we can give him and I think he can get what he deserves in the portal. I think the smarter plan is bring in 2 starter level big men that can handle the physicality and length that has been a real problem for us this season, along with Wilson, and let High and James Brown battler it out for what they get. I would very strongly see if Wilson could handle the 3, that may be his future NBA position. Think in terms of twin big men like Wolf and Goldin for example, maybe as a template for what we want. Imagine a starting line up of Wilson 6'9" and 2 7ft 250lbs guys at the 4 and 5. That dog hunts!

 

[NorCalTarheel]

I do believe that Wilson will play some at the 3 whether Drake stays or not. If Drake stays, he starts and Wilson spells, moving from his starting spot at the four.

We do what we must, within reason, to keep EC. He'll figure it out.

I am of the opinion that both JWash and Tyson probably need to find greener pastures for themselves. Both are great young men, but neither are Carolina level basketball players.

I think you would be hard-pressed to find any Carolina basketball fan who doesn't know we need to get bigger at the 5. I agree with Dave that we need two more bigs. It struck me as funny that as I read his post, and think about my desire for at least two more bigs, that premise reverts back to Roy's offense and not Hubert's. Hubert had his chance at the five out ridiculousness but ran half court sets with it. That's like buying a race car and never getting it over 35 mph.

Lubin is indeed a head-scratcher. He finished strong but let's not forget those hands and his play for the first 2/3's of the season. Ultimately, I think we come up with our NIL number and let him decide.

I know these types of players don't grow on trees but when I see big, strong, rim-running bigs like Fiori from Kansas, Omonyuri, or the stud from Florida, it makes me believe we can have a big and STILL run (oh, those were the days).

Unfortunately, I do believe our season is over (I'll be ecstatic if this ages poorly). Okay Tanner, time to earn your money!

 

[lewisj008]

Can't forget, we already have 1 new big on the way in Wilson thou I am intrigued that maybe his better position may be the 3, especially if Drake does leave. I think we need 2 starter quality big men simply because I can not trust JWash, High, James Brown, or Tyson to give us what we need. JWash has been given every opportunity, I like the kid but this is about results, it isn't so much my giving up on him as it is the results just are not there and he has had more than enough chances.

I think we absolutely MUST have a starter quality PG, not a combo but a PG and I would hope that PG would not be from the University of Lilliput. I can't trust that Cadeau will be able to stay on the floor for 30+ every game. To often we have seen him find quick foul trouble, find spots where his head just blows up, to often this season our best line up was with Cadeau on the bench. That is just a reality I would not want to argue against and darn sure could not risk.

This is where it gets down to hard decisions, Lubin and Tyson. Tyson, should have to take a hard cut in NIL, if you can't accept that then enter the portal. Lubin is the hard one, kid has earned a strong NIL but I htink most would agree, we simply need to get longer at the 5, how many UNC fans could watch us pay tyhis season and not agree, we must get bigger at the 5, so what do you do with Lubin. Well the clear solution would be move him to the 4 where he physically matches up better. If Dean or Roy were our head coach the solution is easy but Hubert is the coach. We know full well that Hubert wants a stretch 4, in other words a 4 that is a solid jump shooter out to the 3pt line , that isn't Lubin. Do you invest heavy in a smallish 5 or a power forward that is not a stretch guy knowing Hubert is the coach, I couldn't. I think he deserves better than we can give him and I think he can get what he deserves in the portal. I think the smarter plan is bring in 2 starter level big men that can handle the physicality and length that has been a real problem for us this season, along with Wilson, and let High and James Brown battler it out for what they get. I would very strongly see if Wilson could handle the 3, that may be his future NBA position. Think in terms of twin big men like Wolf and Goldin for example, maybe as a template for what we want. Imagine a starting line up of Wilson 6'9" and 2 7ft 250lbs guys at the 4 and 5. That dog hunts!

Normally I like your takes, but this one is tough to agree with completely. Are you saying that Hubert should search for a starting PG with Cadeau already the starting PG? Or, are you suggesting that you can have both starting PG's in the game together? I wouldn't try and recruit a PG, I would spend all hours of the day looking for a SG in the portal. Then look for a starting 5.

Also, Wilson is not proven to be able to play the 3 in college and I think he would struggle to keep older more experienced SF's from simply driving by him. Maybe I'm wrong but I see Wilson as a 4 in college and possibly improving to play the 3 some. But if you keep Drake, then there is no way Wilson starts at the 3.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Unless Cadeau leaves, I'm not worried about PG. Trimble/Denis/Dixon/Powell (yes, Powell) . . . bound to be 1 or 2 solid PG backups in that group.

Trimble needs to work on his PG chops all summer.

Elliot needs to work on alley oops all summer.

Lubin needs to work on squeezing the ball all summer.

[Those aren't the only things they should work on, of course, but those should top the list.]

In the portal, we don't just need bigs, we need bigs with strong motors. I don't know if you can teach motor, but it's pretty clear this coaching staff cannot teach motor.

 

[NorCalTarheel]

I'd say we also need some vocal leader types (think Cormac Ryan). Our team doesn't seem to have any. We have plenty of cool guys.

 

[Kool1234567]

Anybody seen this guy play…I have not…

 

[Heelicious]

The new question in today's world is whether players like Ian and Drake make more money sticking with the college game for another year. Now that the mock drafts have cooled on our freshmen a bit, sticking around may be more appealing. Assuming, that is, that we have enough money to keep them and pick up 3-4 top targets in the portal.

Do we have $1-2 million each to keep Ian, Drake and don't forget Elliot on the roster?

Who else will we need to provide big bucks to keep? Seth, probably. Lubin? JWash?

Will we even try to keep Cade - and will he want to stay if we try? I still think he could do well somewhere - but I don't think it's here.

What about the lower rungs of our roster. Brown. High. Who am I forgetting?

Portal ~ $6 million
Returners ~ $6 million
TOTAL ~ $12 million

Plus all the salaries for the new GM and staff.

Is that in the right ball park? Or am I kidding myself that we can get off that easy?

Do we have that much to play with?

Good responses to your original post. I saw few if any comment on Wash or Tyson. IMO - based on what they delivered (didn't deliver at all) this year, UNC should offer each approximately $1 NIL money each. There should be zero way we cannot find upgrades over these two in the portal, and offer the portal guys legit money.

Paying to extend the impact of the horrible decision in hindsight to roll with Wash and Cade would be throwing good money after bad. As a sort of face-saving move for Hubert's decision making over the past couple years? Hubert's in over his head for sure...hopefully the new GM would put a hard stop to paying anything to keep these mistake decisions on the team by actually paying them next year for their sub-mediocrity this year.

 

[UNC-75]

If we are serious about retaining both Powell and Jackson at minimum you’re looking at 3 million divided two ways. Seth could cost you 1.5 himself. EC is a lifer, but that should still get him very high six figures. We already paid for Caleb. The rest of our scholarship players are going to want between 100k- 250k. Got to pay for a couple or if room allows 3 forwards/centers, that may cost 4million for 3 of them.

I'm thinking 18 million can build a solid squad.

I’ll be a fan for next year but I want 1.5 million.

 

[Mistercvr4]

Men's Bball budjet shouldn't be less than 20 million if we want to keep up with the jones but if not then except to keep only getting bargin players. NO reaon why that shouldn't happen or be any excuses for it not happpen. NO big time coach in his right mind will want to coach UNC is we can't get that NIL money at or more than 20 million. Go Heels!!

 

[tarheels0015]

I’ll be a fan for next year but I want 1.5 million.

I'm always a fan .. Just gimme 50k to buy a new vehicle

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Men's Bball budjet shouldn't be less than 20 million if we want to keep up with the jones but if not then except to keep only getting bargin players. NO reaon why that shouldn't happen or be any excuses for it not happpen. NO big time coach in his right mind will want to coach UNC is we can't get that NIL money at or more than 20 million. Go Heels!!

Maybe we should be looking for a coach who gets the most out of bargain players. Gary Williams used to do that for Maryland.

 

[DSouthr]

Normally I like your takes, but this one is tough to agree with completely. Are you saying that Hubert should search for a starting PG with Cadeau already the starting PG? Or, are you suggesting that you can have both starting PG's in the game together? I wouldn't try and recruit a PG, I would spend all hours of the day looking for a SG in the portal. Then look for a starting 5.

Also, Wilson is not proven to be able to play the 3 in college and I think he would struggle to keep older more experienced SF's from simply driving by him. Maybe I'm wrong but I see Wilson as a 4 in college and possibly improving to play the 3 some. But if you keep Drake, then there is no way Wilson starts at the 3.

Starter level PG, yes, absolutely. If Cadeau stays, I hope he does, who backs him up because as of right now it would have to be either Seth or one of the 2 combos we have coming in for next season? Let's say Cadeau comes back, not guaranteed at all at this point but lets say he does, how many minutes do you think he averages next season? He is averaging 27.8 mins a game right now between foul trouble and frankly going a bit brain dead at times emotionally. There have been some games this season that he played close to 20mins and games where frankly we played better when he was on the bench. Let's say he matures in needed areas and can hold down 30mins a game, what do we do for the other 10mins?

WE had RJ as not only the back up at the point but as a well respected jump shooter but RJ is gone after this season. I may feel better about Dawson than most right now but he will be a freshman, same with Denis, do I trust that they can be knock down shooters, or Seth who likely starts at the 2 as anything close to RJ as a jump shooter, to relieve the fact that Cadeau is the jump shooter we have seen. Teams will pack the paint and dare us to jump shoot? So why not go get a more Joel Berry, Marcus Paige, Nigel Pack like guy, a point that can also shoot. That way you can rotate that guy between the 1 and 2 for starter minutes. Jasper Johnson would have been a great fit even as a freshman but he will be at Ky next season.

That does not even touch on the forbidden topic of what if Cadeau leaves, then what? What if Cadeau decides to leave but takes a while to make his decision, as very good portal fits find other schools? But if we show the right guys minutes at the 2 and the point we could solve 2 concerns with a single guy. Worst case would be bringing in a starting quality PG and letting Cadeau know he has to compete for his minutes so that the cream rises. If Cadeau is not willing to compete for minutes is he really the PG you want? Don't take that as me trashing Cadeau, I want him to come back and I want his play to be noticeable better but we need a back up and a back up plan.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Let's say Cadeau comes back, not guaranteed at all at this point but lets say he does, how many minutes do you think he averages next season?

If Hubert will let EC play through his foul troubles, that situation might correct itself.

So, yeah, we may want another PG. But I'm not convinced we don't already have that guy.

Denis: "He has speed and quickness with the ball in his hands, plenty of handle, and some crafty finishing ability at the rim. He shows some flashes of being able to create for others, and seems to have a solid overall feel for the game...."

Dixon: "He thinks and understands the game at a high-level and is both efficient and versatile with the ball in his hands. ... can thrive in up-tempo systems because his head is always up and he advances the ball with the pass. ... his floor vision, ability to make reads, and passing are all impressive."

 

[Mistercvr4]

Maybe we should be looking for a coach who gets the most out of bargain players. Gary Williams used to do that for Maryland

Ole saying you pay for what you get. Sadly, those days of Gary Williams are long gone so either we get onboard get those bargina players and folks will have a melt down when UNC ain't winning like they project in thier minds..