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Hubert Davis…RESIGN

Yeah, Wes was the guy on the UNC coaching tree that made the most sense if they were that desperate to give it to a UNC guy. He checked off a lot of boxes that the rest of the guys didn't.
  • Born and raised in Greensboro
  • Was considered the best coach under 40 by ESPN
  • Young, so possibly a ~30+ year career ahead of him, but already had 10 years of experience (more than I can say for Hubert)
  • Did a hell of a coaching job by turning a 7-24 UNCG program into a consistent 20 win program and multi NCAA tournament team basically from the ground up.
  • Continued to run it instead of bolting to the next job after just 1-2 years of success like a lot of these guys do
All of that in his 30s. It truly baffles me how anyone can say Hubert objectively got this job compared to that.
No chit .. he was my first thought when RW called it a day .. still is !
 
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My take: Davis will get one more year, maybe two to set things right if Heels miss the NCAA tournament this season. Personally, if the struggles continue next season, I will be ready for a new coach, but he can make the case to coach the incoming recruits in the class of 2024. He will be without excuse if they are still mediocre then, and that would certainly be it for him at UNC. For those saying he should have time to build his program and bring all his players in and develop them, remember the era we are in. Because of NIL and lenient transfer rules, D1 rosters are less stable than NBA rosters, so I believe it is fair to expect success almost immediately, unlike when Dean took over the program. If/when the time comes for another coach, I want a genuine coaching search, including those with no prior association with UNC but are capable of becoming part of UNC family. Also, no more hiring coaches who have never been a head coach at Division 1 or higher level to lead the UNC program, or retreads who failed at their previous head coaching job (Steve Robinson). We are a higher level program than that, and we need to act like it and not sell this job short.

If you dont think we need Robinson this year, not sure your line of thinking. Making Robinson leave was a horrible decision. You cant replace that type of experience.

Do you feel the same about former UNC players? Because Lebo was barely average as a HC at ECU and Auburn. If he is our shooting coach, he needs to be replaced at end of season. Ive never seen a UNC team shoot this badly. Im more disappointed in this season than the 8-20 season. It cant be just the players. There are a few issues on this staff.
 
If he is our shooting coach, he needs to be replaced at end of season
Bingo. The shooting for the last 2 years has been atrocious !! Leaky, in his 5th year has yet to have a good outside shot or form .. flat as waffle, heap some dung on Meeks too for not helping Bacot develop any type of inside game outside of being able to touch the rim. I realize there are some problems in transitioning but this group simply lacks some fundamentals and it both glaring and ugly.
 
Bingo. The shooting for the last 2 years has been atrocious !! Leaky, in his 5th year has yet to have a good outside shot or form .. flat as waffle, heap some dung on Meeks too for not helping Bacot develop any type of inside game outside of being able to touch the rim. I realize there are some problems in transitioning but this group simply lacks some fundamentals and it both glaring and ugly.
You are not likely to be able to change a bad shooting form in guy who is inn his 4th or 5th year in college.
 
Bingo. The shooting for the last 2 years has been atrocious !! Leaky, in his 5th year has yet to have a good outside shot or form .. flat as waffle, heap some dung on Meeks too for not helping Bacot develop any type of inside game outside of being able to touch the rim. I realize there are some problems in transitioning but this group simply lacks some fundamentals and it both glaring and ugly.

Not one of the top 4 players improved from last year, imo.

I have been wondering wth they did all summer.
 
What about the 3 years b4 the 4rth and 5th ???
A good staff would identify the problem no later than Fall practice his freshman season and immediately begin working on it.

The problem of inconsistent outside shooting began under Roy. Allegedly Davis was the shooting expert on the staff, but there is a huge difference between having been a great shooter and being a good shooting coach.
 
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A good staff would identify the problem no later than Fall practice his freshman season and immediately begin working on it.

The problem of inconsistent outside shooting began under Roy. Allegedly Davis was the shooting expert on the staff, but there is a huge difference between having been a great shooter and being a good shooting coach.
Actually thought that Lebo was the shooting coach but your right .. HD was there for this class the first couple years. Now what's the excuse for Bacot's lack of inside game. Big drop off from coach Gut huh?
 
Yeah, Wes was the guy on the UNC coaching tree that made the most sense if they were that desperate to give it to a UNC guy. He checked off a lot of boxes that the rest of the guys didn't.
  • Born and raised in Greensboro
  • Was considered the best coach under 40 by ESPN
  • Young, so possibly a ~30+ year career ahead of him, but already had 10 years of experience (more than I can say for Hubert)
  • Did a hell of a coaching job by turning a 7-24 UNCG program into a consistent 20 win program and multi NCAA tournament team basically from the ground up.
  • Continued to run it instead of bolting to the next job after just 1-2 years of success like a lot of these guys do
All of that in his 30s. It truly baffles me how anyone can say Hubert objectively got this job compared to that.
Think about the pattern going on in our country as a whole and connect the dots…
 
With all the Davis bashing, someone on this team has to make shots. It's not like being blown out every time they take the court. All the losses have been singular digit, which I must admit it does not matter if you lose by 20 or one it's still a lost. But the losses have been relative close, we just do not have players who can put the ball into the basket. That's the major issues which confronts this team, even though there are more underlying problems.
 
Yeah, Wes was the guy on the UNC coaching tree that made the most sense if they were that desperate to give it to a UNC guy. He checked off a lot of boxes that the rest of the guys didn't.
  • Born and raised in Greensboro
  • Was considered the best coach under 40 by ESPN
  • Young, so possibly a ~30+ year career ahead of him, but already had 10 years of experience (more than I can say for Hubert)
  • Did a hell of a coaching job by turning a 7-24 UNCG program into a consistent 20 win program and multi NCAA tournament team basically from the ground up.
  • Continued to run it instead of bolting to the next job after just 1-2 years of success like a lot of these guys do
All of that in his 30s. It truly baffles me how anyone can say Hubert objectively got this job compared to that.
Unfortunately Wes is getting the same calls for his head from the Cincinnati fanbase, as some here are calling for Hubert's. One major difference is Wes does not have the sensational National runner up NCAA tourney sucesss. He has no sucess since getting the gig.

Without winning their conference tournament Cincy will not sniff an invite for the 2nd straight year. I do not agree that 2 years is enough time for fans to start sharpening their pitchforks to run him out of town, but he has had no success their yet, and fans tend to over react everywhere I guess.
 
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This is stupid. You can't really make a significant judgement on Hubert for many more years. DES didn't really take off until he got Larry Miller and added Gruber, Bunting and Clark (and then Charlie Scott). This group has been mediocre for 3 years save the run at the end last year. Just plain ridiculous.
 
With all the Davis bashing, someone on this team has to make shots. It's not like being blown out every time they take the court. All the losses have been singular digit, which I must admit it does not matter if you lose by 20 or one it's still a lost. But the losses have been relative close, we just do not have players who can put the ball into the basket. That's the major issues which confronts this team, even though there are more underlying problems.

Don't turn it over 12 times to 1 either.

I'd rather they Jack up the ball from half court than turn it over.
 
Recruit shooters if they lack good defensive skills so be it , we have a roster of below average shooters …
 
This is stupid. You can't really make a significant judgement on Hubert for many more years. DES didn't really take off until he got Larry Miller and added Gruber, Bunting and Clark (and then Charlie Scott). This group has been mediocre for 3 years save the run at the end last year. Just plain ridiculous.
This may be perceived as stupid, but it is true. Is there any objective evidence that HD can be placed in the same sentence as DES ? While it may be true that the fans can't make a significant judgment on Hubert for many more years, but based on his performance so far, he will likely not be given "many more years" of employment as the HC. College basketball is a cold-hearted for-profit business. HD is definitely on the Hot Seat. and last year was an anomaly because of Manek, and only Manek, not the result of spectacular coaching.
 
UNC head coach Hubert Davis postgame:

“I disagree that things aren't working for us. We need to continue to put ourselves in a position to be better. I don't think time is running out on our season"

i’ve never seen a coach more committed to pretending like this isn’t a shit show. it’s actually quite alarming though. according to his continued comments, there’s no issues with how we are playing, we just need to play harder, rinse and repeat. it’s comical at this point. to say roy put hubert in over his head would be the understatement of the year.
 
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Late In Roy's tenure and now into Hubert. Same thing every yr.
Preseason ranking and then underperformed.
Every yr u get nothing from freshman and now nothing from the sophomores.
Something must change and Hubert seems clueless in his press conference after each defeat.
 
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The problem of inconsistent outside shooting began under Roy
Then it makes one wonder why hubcap would stay with that stupid 4 out offense and the abandonment of the concept of inside out offense especially with Bacot ... and he's got to know Black .. and Nance strengths are NOT from the outside. Call this the season of stupidity and likely worse than the Doh show season all things considered.
 
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Then it makes one wonder why hubcap would stay with that stupid 4 out offense and the abandonment of the concept of inside out offense especially with Bacot ... and he's got to know Black .. and Nance strengths are NOT from the outside. Call this the season of stupidity and likely worse than the Doh show season all things considered.
It’s simple most elite big men don’t want to play with their back toward the basket… Walker Kessler says Hi.. Inside out works but kids don’t want to play that way.. so it makes recruiting more difficult..
 
There needs to be a serious housecleaning if we don’t make the tournament. Players and assistants need to be shown the door. Does Hubert have the guts to pull that off?
 
A good staff would identify the problem no later than Fall practice his freshman season and immediately begin working on it.

The problem of inconsistent outside shooting began under Roy. Allegedly Davis was the shooting expert on the staff, but there is a huge difference between having been a great shooter and being a good shooting coach.
FYI.. you aren’t going to take Leaky and turn him into shooter .. Shooters are born .. you either have touch or you don’t. Making shoots is mostly about Confidence and being in rhythm.. if player wants to become a better shooter it’s up to the individual to put in the extra time and work in the gym .. I’m sure the coaches recommend things all the time but breaking bad habits that’s players have had most of their basketball careers isn’t easy
 
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This cover didn’t age well. This core of Carolina players (Bacot, Black, Davis, Love) will forever be known for:
1 - Retiring Roy
2 - Retiring K
3 - Blowing a 16 pt lead in the National Championship Game
4 - Not being able to handle the target on their back.
 
hubert is a favorite son in the family. no matter what, he will get at least five years, probably six or seven.
We better hope not. Carolina may never recover from that level of mediocrity. No coach should get more than 4 years if they are underperforming and making the NIT at a blue blood school. Part of being a blue blood school is not allowing that to persist. Do you think UK would allow Hubert to coach for 5-7 years based on what we’ve seen through 2 years?
 
AF7-E8558-FAF6-44-A1-B8-CD-473-A18808-F73.jpg

This cover didn’t age well. This core of Carolina players (Bacot, Black, Davis, Love) will forever be known for:
1 - Retiring Roy
2 - Retiring K
3 - Blowing a 16 pt lead in the National Championship Game
4 - Not being able to handle the target on their back.
Never really thought about it but what does it say about Hubert that is would even agree to do the photo shoot that lead to this?

Everyone should think about these players compared to the ones on the original.
 
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Close games are frequently determined by coaching. Think about all the close wins we've had through the years vs now.
 
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