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I'm headed to Paris on Thursday with the wife

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Anyone ever been? Haven't been to Paris in a little over 10 years. Looking forward to the food and wine. French women are lovely to look at. We are also spending a couple days in Burgundy as well.
 
Went there in early April, was my first time there and I had a great time. Did all the usual touristy stuff, but if/when I go back again I'll try to do more stuff off the beaten path. Have a friend who's going to MBA school over there starting this month so might try to visit him.
 
Anyone ever been? Haven't been to Paris in a little over 10 years. Looking forward to the food and wine. French women are lovely to look at. We are also spending a couple days in Burgundy as well.

Went a couple years ago with Mrs 71. Had a great time. Did all the tourist stuff and other than that just wandered around.

How long are you going for?
 
You like hairy women?

Bro, French women are gorgeous. And the accent is amazing.

Went a couple years ago with Mrs 71. Had a great time. Did all the tourist stuff and other than that just wandered around.

How long are you going for?

5 nights in Paris and 2 in Burgundy. No agenda as we have both seen the touristy sights. Might venture back to the Louvre just because. Mainly going to get a break, eat some food, drink some wine, and hang out.
 
Bro, French women are gorgeous. And the accent is amazing.



5 nights in Paris and 2 in Burgundy. No agenda as we have both seen the touristy sights. Might venture back to the Louvre just because. Mainly going to get a break, eat some food, drink some wine, and hang out.
I can believe that but don't think I could get by the hairy pits.
 
For a week in 2009 with the wife, part of a month-long trip. It's cliche but I had one of the best meals of my life that week. And others that were just a baguette, cheese, and a bottle of wine that were almost as fun. Enjoyed the Rodin museum. Walked around a lot. Spent some time in an overstocked hole in the wall bookstore that was awesome.

Been way too long since that trip, we need a getaway.
 
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That's actually a language called French.
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I have always wanted to go to France, but I really don't have a desire to spend much time in Paris. I want to visit Normandy (BIG WWII buff) and some other places, but Paris really doesn't do much for me. I would love to see the Riviera and the Alps, though.

I guess should I ever make it across the pond, I will spend some time in Paris. I would love to see some of the attractions and I have no doubt the food and wine would be great. Just no desire to spend time with Parisians.
 
Lol way to just write off the entire population of a city with 2+ million people. I'm sure every last one of them is just awful.

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Well, I can only go on what others have told me since I haven't been there myself. Like a friend whose brother lives in France who travels there once a month on business. According to her (and she actually lived in Paris for several years), Parisians are none too fond of Americans and have no problem letting you know it. Her advice to me if I chose to go there is to go see the things I want to see and get out of Paris ASAP. In her opinion, the French are wonderful people, outside of Paris, where most think their shiite doesn't stink and they have a very over-inflated view of their worth to the rest of the word.

Then there is my cousin's family who spent 3 weeks in Europe (again, she was there on business), with a full week in Paris. Beautiful city and some folks were nice to them but, in her words, most were jerks and rude to them, including her 15 year old daughter. Her husband, who made a point to eat mostly street vendor food and tried to see the non-tourist sights, said basically the same thing. Said vendors on the street in Paris were pretty nice, but shop owners and restaurants were the worst. In his opinion, Germany and England were much more worth it to see. And he said both had better beer, too, so they had that going for them.

See, I like to weigh the odds before venturing off somewhere and, since I have to go on what others say, I take their advice and make a judgement call. IF I go to France, I will see Paris (like I said before) and will spend some time going to the places I do want to see before I die. However, I would much rather spend most of my time in places like Normandy, where my personal interests would be better served.
 
It's absolutely your choice to do what you want to do when you travel. Have fun.

I'm just saying, I bet if somebody presented their preconceived opinion of you based entirely on what other people had told them about their limited interaction with some tiny sample of people who happen to live where you live, you'd have a nice GFY for them.

FWIW my wife and I had no issues getting around Paris in the week we were there and folks were very nice to us, despite being young and broke and not spending a lot of money (other than that one splurge meal). So there's one positive experience you can weigh against the negative; it's all anecdotal so it should be worth just as much, right?

Or maybe just visit for yourself before you judge.
 
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Well, I can only go on what others have told me since I haven't been there myself. Like a friend whose brother lives in France who travels there once a month on business. According to her (and she actually lived in Paris for several years), Parisians are none too fond of Americans and have no problem letting you know it. Her advice to me if I chose to go there is to go see the things I want to see and get out of Paris ASAP. In her opinion, the French are wonderful people, outside of Paris, where most think their shiite doesn't stink and they have a very over-inflated view of their worth to the rest of the word.

Then there is my cousin's family who spent 3 weeks in Europe (again, she was there on business), with a full week in Paris. Beautiful city and some folks were nice to them but, in her words, most were jerks and rude to them, including her 15 year old daughter. Her husband, who made a point to eat mostly street vendor food and tried to see the non-tourist sights, said basically the same thing. Said vendors on the street in Paris were pretty nice, but shop owners and restaurants were the worst. In his opinion, Germany and England were much more worth it to see. And he said both had better beer, too, so they had that going for them.

See, I like to weigh the odds before venturing off somewhere and, since I have to go on what others say, I take their advice and make a judgement call. IF I go to France, I will see Paris (like I said before) and will spend some time going to the places I do want to see before I die. However, I would much rather spend most of my time in places like Normandy, where my personal interests would be better served.
Any big city in the world is going to have its set of jerks. Parisians are no different than New Yorkers. But I had nothing but pleasant interactions with parisians when I was there.

In fact, for all the animosity shared between Americans and French, I find a lot of similarities. Intense pride, cockiness, and a feeling of superiority.
 
It's absolutely your choice to do what you want to do when you travel. Have fun.

I'm just saying, I bet if somebody presented their preconceived opinion of you based entirely on what other people had told them about their limited interaction with some tiny sample of people who happen to live where you live, you'd have a nice GFY for them.

FWIW my wife and I had no issues getting around Paris in the week we were there and folks were very nice to us, despite being young and broke and not spending a lot of money (other than that one splurge meal). So there's one positive experience you can weigh against the negative; it's all anecdotal so it should be worth just as much, right?

Or maybe just visit for yourself before you judge.

Didn't mean to sound like I was completely negative on Parisians. I have no doubt there are many fine folks who are as nice as any you will ever meet in Paris. Just relaying what I was told. I understand different people have different experiences and, should I make it there, I am sure my own will be different from everyone else's.

Perhaps part of the lack of desire to spend a lot of time in Paris is rooted in my lack of enthusiasm for big cities, even those as old and grand as Paris. Been to LA and, as beautiful as it was (and it WAS one of the most beautiful places I have been), a week was all I wanted. Same with NY. Portland, OR was a great place, but, again, bigger than I care for. I like Atlanta, and lived in Charlotte for a while and have been to just about every major city on the east coast and lots across this country. All have positives, but they just aren't my cup of tea, if you get my drift.

I am sure I will like Paris just fine, but sitting in some farm house with a Frenchman sipping a glass of wine and just enjoying the peace is more my style. Maybe I am just old and crotchety nowadays.
 
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I love travelling to nice places- not those shitholes that Lyles frequents.

Paris was great. Would go again tomorrow if the opportunity presented itself.
 
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I love travelling to nice places-

I don't dislike traveling. And if I had more money, more time and less children (or at least grown children), I'd probably travel more. But I still doubt I'm choosing a trip to Greece over a trip to Tahoe. I'm going to the pacific northwest before I'm going to Ireland. I'd much rather do The Black Hills over the far east. But right now, exotic travel isn't my priority. My travel now consists of going to Charlottesville or Virginia Beach for youth soccer tournaments. Or Chapel Hill and Knoxville for college football games. Or Wilmington or Charleston for beach trips.

Ryan Gosling more your speed?

Lord knows he's mine

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NTTAWWT
 
I'm forming a picture of a guy who likes well-done steak with ketchup, chicken nuggets, has an extensive list of foods he won't try, and sleeps in PJs.
I hope you're not in the fortune-telling business. Anyone who eats a steak any more done than medium should be publicly executed by hanging. Anyone who puts ketchup on steak should be publicly executed by stoning.
 
Anyone who eats a steak any more done than medium should be publicly executed by hanging. Anyone who puts ketchup on steak should be publicly executed by stoning.

I would say that before publicly executed, they should be whipped with barbed wire and have rubbing alcohol poured on them first.

Medium rare or rare. Salt & pepper in most cases. I have made some steaks by low heating in a cast iron pan in the oven on 200 for bout 30 minutes and then searing it and basting it in garlic, thyme and butter for about 30-45 second on each side. That is about as far as I go with "extras" on mine. I will say a local butcher has a spice mix I like, but it isn't overpowering, so I will grill some with that on it, but NEVER cook it more than medium rare.

Ketchup? Why not wipe your arse with it before serving if you are going to do that?
 
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I hope you're not in the fortune-telling business. Anyone who eats a steak any more done than medium should be publicly executed by hanging. Anyone who puts ketchup on steak should be publicly executed by stoning.
So you're in favor of doing this to the president?
 
Unbelievably, it's actually worse than that.
Go on
I would say that before publicly executed, they should be whipped with barbed wire and have rubbing alcohol poured on them first.

Medium rare or rare. Salt & pepper in most cases. I have made some steaks by low heating in a cast iron pan in the oven on 200 for bout 30 minutes and then searing it and basting it in garlic, thyme and butter for about 30-45 second on each side. That is about as far as I go with "extras" on mine. I will say a local butcher has a spice mix I like, but it isn't overpowering, so I will grill some with that on it, but NEVER cook it more than medium rare.

Ketchup? Why not wipe your arse with it before serving if you are going to do that?
Try classic Sous Vide method. Finish in hot pan with butter, fresh garlic and fresh thyme
 
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