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Iran tests new version of balistic missile

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Meanwhile Neville Obama warns that "climate change" is the greatest threat we face.

The massive capitulation that Obama just concluded with his disastrous "deal" with Iran is going to prove deadly to countless thousands and perhaps many more people.

Iran AND RUSSIA are moving aggressively to take advantage of his colossal weakness and hatred of Israel.
The coming years will be very very bloody and costly thanks to Obama and his Democrat hack followers in the Senate
 
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gunslingerdick said:
Maybe a less intelligent liberal buys that crap but I give you more credit than that. You know how absurd this meme is.
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Not saying there aren't differences that aren't on the list but you can't pretend that the majority of conservatives don't hold those political positions. And it's for the same reason. Because they are theocrats
 
uncboy10 said:
Not saying there aren't differences that aren't on the list but you can't pretend that the majority of conservatives don't hold those political positions. And it's for the same reason. Because they are theocrats
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That's absurd. There is obviously a strong religious voting block among conservatives, but to claim the majority of Republicans want a theocracy comes off as paranoid..

Do you have evidence that this belief is held by the majority of the party? Or are you just making stuff up?
 
Raising Heel said:
That's absurd. There is obviously a strong religious voting block among conservatives, but to claim the majority of Republicans want a theocracy comes off as paranoid..

Do you have evidence that this belief is held by the majority of the party? Or are you just making stuff up?
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Well the post does say right wing Christians, not all conservatives.
 
uncboy10 said:
Well the post does say right wing Christians, not all conservatives.
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What difference does that make? Those statements don't come close to defining the views of most right wing Christians I know
 
UNC71-00 said:
My friends, family and co-workers. The only thing we all agree on is our disdain for Obama. We feel the same about Hillary.
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I meant which political views do they not hold. I dont know too many conservative christians who support equal rights for the LGBT community, or dont want creationism taught in science classrooms. Or accept climate change as a scientific fact.
 
uncboy10 said:
I meant which political views do they not hold. I dont know too many conservative christians who support equal rights for the LGBT community, or dont want creationism taught in science classrooms. Or accept climate change as a scientific fact.
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It's one thing to want a union between two homosexuals to be called something other than "marriage" and a completely different thing to go lopping off someone's head because they're gay. The fact that I need to explain that is disturbing. Or are you just being argumentative?

Also, the GOP race has a woman in it and polling well - better than the dems' woman candidate in some polls. So...

Lastly, right wing Christians don't want a govt based on Christianity. They simply don't want to hide the fact that this country was built upon and celebrates Christian customs. They don't want to force Christianity on kids in school. They just want to offer Christianity teachings, because, ya know, it is by far and away the most popular faith in this country. But no one has ever said, "off with you're head if you don't subscribe to Christianity". They simply say, "wait patiently in the corner while we all observe it" And frankly, I don't see a problem with that.
 
So, we now have Russians, Iranians, Cubans, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iraqi Shia militias fighting to maintain Assad in power. Someone please explain how this accomplishes the HRC-Obama foreign policy plans....
 
uncboy10 said:
I meant which political views do they not hold. I dont know too many conservative christians who support equal rights for the LGBT community, or dont want creationism taught in science classrooms. Or accept climate change as a scientific fact.
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Well, just speaking for me- I dont have one close friend or aquaintence or family that thinks the LTGBs dont deserve equal rights. I dont know of any that believe in creationism (meaning that Genesis is literal), and we all know the climate is changing, as it has been changing for about 4.6 billion years.

Can you or any of your peeps explain how life on the planet started? Or the origin of the Big Bang?
 
gunslingerdick said:
Maybe a less intelligent liberal buys that crap but I give you more credit than that. You know how absurd this meme is.
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No doubt. That meme is ridiculous, though UNC 92's meme is as well. Regardless, as a Christian, who knows a crapload of other Christians, there are only a handful I now who would fit any of those at all. None of them would come close to fitting them all. That also doesn't even include what you mention later about the severity (oppose marriage vs. beheadings, etc...) when breaking down the silly comparative statements. Trying to compare Islamic Militants to Christians (or any religious group tbh) is hyperbole in its most extreme.
 
UNC71-00 said:
Well, just speaking for me- I dont have one close friend or aquaintence or family that thinks the LTGBs dont deserve equal rights. I dont know of any that believe in creationism (meaning that Genesis is literal), and we all know the climate is changing, as it has been changing for about 4.6 billion years.

Can you or any of your peeps explain how life on the planet started? Or the origin of the Big Bang?
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That's an irrelevant argument. Me not being able to explain the Big Bang in no way validates your claims.
 
coryfly said:
No doubt. That meme is ridiculous, though UNC 92's meme is as well. Regardless, as a Christian, who knows a crapload of other Christians, there are only a handful I now who would fit any of those at all. None of them would come close to fitting them all. That also doesn't even include what you mention later about the severity (oppose marriage vs. beheadings, etc...) when breaking down the silly comparative statements. Trying to compare Islamic Militants to Christians (or any religious group tbh) is hyperbole in its most extreme.
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Look! The mean old conservatives are doing it too! You know why I posted those. Don't be so damn obtuse.
 
heelmanwilm said:
Atheists claim we descended from rocks. Christians say we descended from clay. But christians are the nut jobs.
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Uh what? Im not familiar with a single evolutionist who says we descended from rocks
 
coryfly said:
No doubt. That meme is ridiculous, though UNC 92's meme is as well. Regardless, as a Christian, who knows a crapload of other Christians, there are only a handful I now who would fit any of those at all. None of them would come close to fitting them all. That also doesn't even include what you mention later about the severity (oppose marriage vs. beheadings, etc...) when breaking down the silly comparative statements. Trying to compare Islamic Militants to Christians (or any religious group tbh) is hyperbole in its most extreme.
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It's not a comparison of Christians and Islamic radicals. It's supposed to be a comparison between the radical right wing Christians and their Islamic counterparts. Just like with Islam, only a small percentage of the population are extremists. I fully concede there are many moderate Christians who separate their religion from their politics.

Islam is behind the times no doubt about it. Christianity has greatly benefitted from being restrained by secular laws. There used to be plenty of beheadings in dominantly Christian regions.

Anyways, Iran testing ballistic missiles has absolutely nothing to do with our nuclear deal with them. It neither sanctions not prohibits Iran from testing ballistic missiles unless they are armed with nuclear weapons. These were not. And it doesn't allow Iran to get nuclear weapons either for that matter. It may not be a perfect deal but it's a hell of a lot better than just folding our arms or starting another war in the ME
 
gunslingerdick said:
It's one thing to want a union between two homosexuals to be called something other than "marriage" and a completely different thing to go lopping off someone's head because they're gay. The fact that I need to explain that is disturbing. Or are you just being argumentative?

Also, the GOP race has a woman in it and polling well - better than the dems' woman candidate in some polls. So...

Lastly, right wing Christians don't want a govt based on Christianity. They simply don't want to hide the fact that this country was built upon and celebrates Christian customs. They don't want to force Christianity on kids in school. They just want to offer Christianity teachings, because, ya know, it is by far and away the most popular faith in this country. But no one has ever said, "off with you're head if you don't subscribe to Christianity". They simply say, "wait patiently in the corner while we all observe it" And frankly, I don't see a problem with that.
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I do see a problem with it. Religious doctrine has no place in public schools. That's blatantly unconstitutional. if you want to send your kids to a private religious institutional that is your right however.
 
uncboy10 said:
That's an irrelevant argument. Me not being able to explain the Big Bang in no way validates your claims.
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There is no argument. I only postulated the questions about life and the BB to show that these are matters of faith.

What claims am I making?
 
uncboy10 said:
I do see a problem with it. Religious doctrine has no place in public schools. That's blatantly unconstitutional. if you want to send your kids to a private religious institutional that is your right however.
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I do send my kids to a private Catholic school. I would never consider public schools again for my kids. No way, no how.

But again, you misread what I wrote. I'm not saying that Christianity should be taught in public schools. But I am saying that because the vast majority subscribe to Christianity, that schools can allow Christian groups to assemble. And while they can and should also allow muslim groups to assemble (or any other faith based group), members of other faith based groups need to understand that Christianity is dominant and therefore might be afforded more of this or that. For example, if a Christian group of 50 kids want to meet for a prayer group, they might be afforded 30 minutes to do so in the auditorium. The muslim group of 1 may be relegated to a small room and only afforded 10 minutes. That's not favoritism or pushing an agenda. That's common sense. And minority faiths need to understand that popularity, to some degree, dictates need.
 
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