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John Wayne

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This annoys me to no end.

The guy was born in 1907 and we're surprised that in 1971 he didn't have views that were considered PC in 2019? There aren't enough problems in 2019 for the "always offended" group that they need to dig up interviews from 1971?
 
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Eeesh. That's hard to read.

But with that said, I don't disagree with one of his talking points. America is here today because we took this land from Native Americans. I wish that we could have done it in a better way but I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I wish it hadn't happened. I wouldn't be here if it hadn't happened and America wouldn't be the greatest country the world has ever known had we not settled here and claimed this territory. I wouldn't go as far as to say that Natives were "selfishly" keeping it all for themselves (although I guess that's kind of true).
 
Eeesh. That's hard to read.

But with that said, I don't disagree with one of his talking points. America is here today because we took this land from Native Americans. I wish that we could have done it in a better way but I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I wish it hadn't happened. I wouldn't be here if it hadn't happened and America wouldn't be the greatest country the world has ever known had we not settled here and claimed this territory. I wouldn't go as far as to say that Natives were "selfishly" keeping it all for themselves (although I guess that's kind of true).

And lets not pretend that Native Americans weren't doing the same to each other before the Europeans showed up.
 
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And lets not pretend that Native Americans weren't doing the same to each other before the Europeans showed up.
I don't think the Native American tribes were ever conducting a genocide. They definitely fought one another frequently in tribal wars. But, I don't think they were ever guilty of methodically, intentionally trying to... well, commit genocide.

Back to John Wayne; His acting is the same in ever movie. George Carlin sums him up perfectly for me:

 
I'm sure there's stuff that people say, write, poast today that is considered perfectly fine, but when it gets dug up in 2045, we'll be called a whatever-ist and made to apologize for it.
 
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I don't think the Native American tribes were ever conducting a genocide. They definitely fought one another frequently in tribal wars. But, I don't think they were ever guilty of methodically, intentionally trying to... well, commit genocide.

Back to John Wayne; His acting is the same in ever movie. George Carlin sums him up perfectly for me:


How would we know if a tribe was wiped out by another tribe? I have a hard time believing it never happened.
 
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I don't think the Native American tribes were ever conducting a genocide. They definitely fought one another frequently in tribal wars. But, I don't think they were ever guilty of methodically, intentionally trying to... well, commit genocide.

Back to John Wayne; His acting is the same in ever movie. George Carlin sums him up perfectly for me:

And that’s because only ‘white people’ could ever commit a genocide.
 
And that’s because only ‘white people’ could ever commit a genocide.
People commit it. People who think their "kind of people" is the best kind. ETA: And, certain "other kinds" need to be exterminated.
 
That's a hard hitting interview. I thought Playboy would be asking him if he liked them shaved or hairy.
 
I'm not sure how you define "Western Culture" if you assume there's a specific race that deserves credit for it.

Western, you know...the opposite of Eastern? And while I don't attribute western culture to race, there is a race that is much more responsible than the others. Guess which race that is? Look at the world and tell me who the most accepting race is.
 
Western, you know...the opposite of Eastern? And while I don't attribute western culture to race, there is a race that is much more responsible than the others. Guess which race that is? Look at the world and tell me who the most accepting race is.
Do you want to be racist?

And while I don't attribute western culture to race, there is a race that is much more responsible than the others.
Good thing you're not attributing it to race.
 
Do you want to be racist?


Good thing you're not attributing it to race.

You understand the difference between the creation of the culture and the ongoing situation of a culture, right? If you virtue signallers want to stand on your soapbox all day, I think it's time we had an earnest conversation about the situation.
 
You understand the difference between the creation of the culture and the ongoing situation of a culture, right? If you virtue signallers want to stand on your soapbox all day, I think it's time we had an earnest conversation about the situation.
Oh, good.
 
That's a hard hitting interview. I thought Playboy would be asking him if he liked them shaved or hairy.
I would bet that the "shaved" variable wasn't really available in 1971.

I don't understand the preference for shaved myself, almost 50 years later. Playboy was a good barometer for following the trend, however. Shaved is too much like a prepubescent child, to me. ((shudder))
 
I would bet that the "shaved" variable wasn't really available in 1971.

I don't understand the preference for shaved myself, almost 50 years later. Playboy was a good barometer for following the trend, however. Shaved is too much like a prepubescent child, to me. ((shudder))
Some men (cc: @nctransplant) don't like to get hair in their mouth.
 
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Hold on there fella. Maybe you should try it before you advise on the subject. You need to learn to walk before you run.
Well, shaved pubic area looks like a child, to me. I don't demand a woman keep her pubes any way except how she wants to keep them. Amazingly enough, I've experienced both, and in-between. My preference is to look womanly, not like a child.
 
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