Jordan Tucker transferring...

[gary-7]

...outta dook. 14 total minutes for a Top-100 recruit who drank the dark blue kool-aid.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...recruit-jordan-tucker-transferring-from-duke/

 

[TarHeelMark]

I have no idea who he is but he went to dook so that tells me about all I need to know.

Hilarious that he couldn't even make it through half of one season.

 

[gary-7]

I have no idea who he is but he went to dook so that tells me about all I need to know.

Hilarious that he couldn't even make it through half of one season.

Yep.
handwriting = on wall

 

[Archer2]

If DeLaurier and Bolden had a lick of sense, they'd do likewise. Both would be starting for 90% of the D1 teams in the country.

 

[RoseHeel]

Tucker was apparently fine with being a very late Plan B after they missed out on Knox, only to realize he wasn't going to get Knox's Playing Time with that position lmao

Funny thing is, even the 3 Star PG and Walk ons gets more burn than him. Can't blame him for jumping ship. I'd have transferred from The "Brotherhood" a long time ago if that were me.

 

[Ozheelfan]

If DeLaurier and Bolden had a lick of sense, they'd do likewise. Both would be starting for 90% of the D1 teams in the country.

Both of them were recruited by Roy and would have likely enjoyed a ton of PT as Heels this year... but no, setting screens for Bagley and rebounding misses from ‘Tripper’ in 5min court time per game is worth it...
BTW, how is David Robinson’s kid doing over there? Does he even bother tying his shoelaces?

 

[Archer2]

The Kool Aid is strong over there, very strong.

 

[imajericho]

If Bagley didn't go there, he woulda played. He got recruited over before he even played. Can't blame them though. Bagley is insane

 

[kevindow]

Jordan Tucker, like Sacha Killeya-Jones, was tempted by the possibility of playing for a powerhouse like Duke and UK, respectively, but ignored the probability of playing for a team like UNC. I hope Zion does not make the same bad decision.

 

[Ozheelfan]

Jordan Tucker, like Sacha Killeya-Jones, was tempted by the possibility of playing for a powerhouse like Duke and UK, respectively, but ignored the probability of playing for a team like UNC. I hope Zion does not make the same bad decision.

Yeah, I think this is apples and oranges... I reckon wherever Zion goes they’ll need one less seat on the bench cause he ain’t going to sit much.

 

[FranktheHeel]

Tucker really shouldn’t have went their from the first place, I thought he would've done well at Cuse and I think a lot of us knew the outcome would be like this. He let Ratty sell him on the brotherhood( it doesn’t deserve caps) and the kid unfortunately lost his freshman year when he could've been playing elsewhere. You know what though, he’s better than some of the others because he got out of there before he got stuck for two years like Bolden and DeLaurier letting k hold them back making "promises" for the future. The amount of transfers they have had compared to us just shows the differences between our programs. It’s just crazy to think that these kids are constantly doing this to themselves, when there are really good programs out there that will do right by them like us.

I said it another time what I love about Roy is that hasn’t changed what he preaches and how he treats his players, he gives all his players an equal chance and has never put a kid above the team and the program. Roy develops an mutual understanding between himself and his players that leads them to buy into what he preaches. He consistently develops his guys and didn’t waver from what made him successful by building relationships with his recruits and getting the right players for his program. Once they get here, he helps them to not only be great on the court, but to mold them into fine young men off of it. He truly cares about them beyond their time at UNC, why do you think he went to Marcus Paige and Justin Jackson's weddings and checks the box scores of his guys in the pros every night.

That’s the guy I would want to play for!

 

[kevindow]

Yeah, I think this is apples and oranges... I reckon wherever Zion goes they’ll need one less seat on the bench cause he ain’t going to sit much.

Sorry, I am not convinced that Zion will perform up to his crazy-hype, especially against D1 talent. Most of his highlight videos have been against shorter and less athletic players who will never, ever be offered D1 scholarships. Looking at head-to-head games, I definitely prefer Nassir Little, as he has a better inside and outside game. Zion's handlers are likely convincing him that he had Bagley talent, but he doesn't. Again, I would welcome him at UNC, but we likely would benefit more with EJ Montgomery.

 

[gary-7]

Sorry, I am not convinced that Zion will perform up to his crazy-hype, especially against D1 talent. Most of his highlight videos have been against shorter and less athletic players who will never, ever be offered D1 scholarships. Looking at head-to-head games, I definitely prefer Nassir Little, as he has a better inside and outside game. Zion's handlers are likely convincing him that he had Bagley talent, but he doesn't. Again, I would welcome him at UNC, but we likely would benefit more with EJ Montgomery.

I too have always preferred Naz because of the completeness of his game. That being said, don't underestimate Zion's athletic prowess. He is a legit freak compared to ANY level. He does need to round out his game but he's not gonna be out-athleted (for lack of a better term). My knock on Zion is consistency of his shot and the fact he'll be gone by the time that rounding out occurs.

As for EJ, the knock on him is he doesn't play up to his size, so there's a question as to how much added value he brings as well.

 

[ky-heel-man]

I too have always preferred Naz because of the completeness of his game. That being said, don't underestimate Zion's athletic prowess. He is a legit freak compared to ANY level. He does need to round out his game but he's not gonna be out-athleted (for lack of a better term). My knock on Zion is consistency of his shot and the fact he'll be gone by the time that rounding out occurs.

As for EJ, the knock on him is he doesn't play up to his size, so there's a question as to how much added value he brings as well.

I’ve heard the same thing about EJ. Heard on a talk show today that Zion will announce any day now and it’s Uk,Duke, or Clemson and that UNC is pretty much out. His biological father played football at Nc state and doesn’t want him at UNC.

 

[DSouthr]

Sorry, I am not convinced that Zion will perform up to his crazy-hype, especially against D1 talent. Most of his highlight videos have been against shorter and less athletic players who will never, ever be offered D1 scholarships. Looking at head-to-head games, I definitely prefer Nassir Little, as he has a better inside and outside game. Zion's handlers are likely convincing him that he had Bagley talent, but he doesn't. Again, I would welcome him at UNC, but we likely would benefit more with EJ Montgomery.

I have said much the same in terms of Zion, he is a under sized 4 (in terms of length, not LBs) and that is fine IMO if he were paired with a long rim protector like center. But that would not be the case with us, he would make us very short on front court length because he would start and be paired with Luke and Luke just is not a rim protector center.

I to will be interested to see how well Zion's game translates to the next level, huge talent for sure and in time I do think he would be special but I am not so sure his ability to over power as a college freshman will be nearly what it was in high school. What you can do to over power a high school boy isn't what will have to happen when you face a 6'9" 240lbs grown man that has been in a world class strength and conditioning program for 3-4yrs.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I noticed him play in one of the Duke games I glanced at. Thought he looked pretty good and might get very good in a year or 2. A shame he has to go somewhere else to get that chance.

 

[NCAAUCoach]

If Roy’s history shows us anything, Zion wouldn’t start. Little may not either if Cam returns. Roy won’t start a FR Zion over a SR Maye or even a SOPH Manley or Brooks.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Sorry, I am not convinced that Zion will perform up to his crazy-hype, especially against D1 talent. Most of his highlight videos have been against shorter and less athletic players who will never, ever be offered D1 scholarships. Looking at head-to-head games, I definitely prefer Nassir Little, as he has a better inside and outside game. Zion's handlers are likely convincing him that he had Bagley talent, but he doesn't. Again, I would welcome him at UNC, but we likely would benefit more with EJ Montgomery.

His weight situation is crazy, but I remember watching one video featuring him and Little. Both looked very good, but Zion was clearly better. But that was when Zion looked a reasonable weight. Not light, but all muscle.

 

[keysersosay#1]

Just exactly how many transfers has Vader had from that hellhole over the last 10-15 years??
I know it is far more than anyone else and who can blame them after the LOM lied to them and recruited over them??

Anyone? Beuhler??????

 

[imajericho]

His weight situation is crazy, but I remember watching one video featuring him and Little. Both looked very good, but Zion was clearly better. But that was when Zion looked a reasonable weight. Not light, but all muscle.

You are insane.

Nassir starts day 1.

I quoted the wrong person.

 

[bax4444]

His weight situation is crazy, but I remember watching one video featuring him and Little. Both looked very good, but Zion was clearly better. But that was when Zion looked a reasonable weight. Not light, but all muscle.

I've actually seen highlights where little looked like the better player when they went heads up.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

You are insane.

Nassir starts day 1.

I quoted the wrong person.

Huh?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I've actually seen highlights where little looked like the better player when they went heads up.

I've only seen one clip. As I said, they both looked good. Zion looked OAD, Little probably not.

As I recall, Little looked a bit better on D. Not that he could stop Zion, but he could disrupt him a bit - which I'm guessing not many players can do. Zion didn't try to play much D in that clip.

 

[ky-heel-man]

If Roy’s history shows us anything, Zion wouldn’t start. Little may not either if Cam returns. Roy won’t start a FR Zion over a SR Maye or even a SOPH Manley or Brooks.

That’s why he don’t get guys like Zion too. No way this kid sits on the bench. Are you watching the same UNC games as I am? We have nothing in the post whatsoever and Roy has pretty much said the same thing but not in those words. Roy needed bodies so that is why all 3 bigs even received a UNC offer.

 

[Steat]

At least Jordan realizes his dumb mistake and got out after one semester. The kid would have been a starter at Cuse. These second level Duke recruits are too dumb to relaize that they signing up for an automatic bench sentence. Bolden is one of the dumbest ever as he sits on the bench having waisted 2 years. K-Rat could convince a kid to jump off the Empire State building and the kid would think he was jumping 12 inches to a mattress.

 

[tarheels0015]

wonder if they get him to play next game and give him 20 mins of pt to keep the brotherhood

 

[Sk1310]

I've actually seen highlights where little looked like the better player when they went heads up.

Same here. Nassir has a jump shot to go with his expressiveness.

 

[bax4444]

I've only seen one clip. As I said, they both looked good. Zion looked OAD, Little probably not.

As I recall, Little looked a bit better on D. Not that he could stop Zion, but he could disrupt him a bit - which I'm guessing not many players can do. Zion didn't try to play much D in that clip.

I'd suggest watching more tape of little if you really came away thinking he doesn't look like a oad.

 

[TPFKAPFS]

Don't know who Tucker is, but my respect level for him has skyrocketed!

Not many can see through the rat lord's mind control. Well done, young man; now show me on the doll where the bad man put his tail!

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

If Bagley didn't go there, he woulda played. He got recruited over before he even played. Can't blame them though. Bagley is insane

i agree with that...Bagley entering def nixed things for him imo...but it seems he would def get some time next season as the stretch 4

 

[gunslingerdick]

This happens over and over at duke. And every time, duke fans say things like, "what's wrong with kids today? Scared to compete for PT and scared to wait their turn." I agree that kids today are indeed like that. But why are mass transfers not happening at other schools?

I think it's because K clearly likes his best players better and treats them differently than the role players. Basically, Jordan Tucker can't do anything to help the K legacy. Bagley can. Carter can. So those guys get K's full attention and coaching. I think the bench guys get little support/encouragement/etc. from K and the duke staff.

 

[2DDIMOND]

This happens over and over at duke. And every time, duke fans say things like, "what's wrong with kids today? Scared to compete for PT and scared to wait their turn." I agree that kids today are indeed like that. But why are mass transfers not happening at other schools?

I think it's because K clearly likes his best players better and treats them differently than the role players. Basically, Jordan Tucker can't do anything to help the K legacy. Bagley can. Carter can. So those guys get K's full attention and coaching. I think the bench guys get little support/encouragement/etc. from K and the duke staff.

I think this post is Spot On!

 

[dadika13]

Sorry, I am not convinced that Zion will perform up to his crazy-hype, especially against D1 talent. Most of his highlight videos have been against shorter and less athletic players who will never, ever be offered D1 scholarships. Looking at head-to-head games, I definitely prefer Nassir Little, as he has a better inside and outside game. Zion's handlers are likely convincing him that he had Bagley talent, but he doesn't. Again, I would welcome him at UNC, but we likely would benefit more with EJ Montgomery.

Relax over there.

Zion's playing 30mpg no matter where he goes.

 

[TPFKAPFS]

The post is not only "Spot on" it is also a problem that has been going on with ratty and puke for decades. As a UNC fan it sometimes works in my favor like when ratty decided not to play Ricky Price. He was the scariest player on the team, but he stayed in ratty's dog house. The spin doctors always have an explanation, but the number of transfers is staggering and can not be blamed completely on society or the kids!

Once again, I prefer the Roy method!

 

[TPFKAPFS]

For post # 6,000:

puke sux!

 

[carolinablue34]

This isn’t altogether surprising. Probably wasn’t a good fit. Not to mention K is notorious for only playing 7 deep, 8 max. Should’ve gone somewhere else.

 

[dadika13]

This isn’t altogether surprising. Probably wasn’t a good fit. Not to mention K is notorious for only playing 7 deep, 8 max. Should’ve gone somewhere else.

I don't get why anyone ranked in the 80s would expect to sniff minutes at Duke. As you said, he goes 7-8 deep and he recruits top 20 kids every season.

 

[carolinablue34]

I don't get why anyone ranked in the 80s would expect to sniff minutes at Duke. As you said, he goes 7-8 deep and he recruits top 20 kids every season.

He gets at least 4 in the top 20 every year. This year it was 4 in the top 10! What the hell did this kid expect?

 

[gary-7]

This happens over and over at duke. And every time, duke fans say things like, "what's wrong with kids today? Scared to compete for PT and scared to wait their turn." I agree that kids today are indeed like that. But why are mass transfers not happening at other schools?

I think it's because K clearly likes his best players better and treats them differently than the role players. Basically, Jordan Tucker can't do anything to help the K legacy. Bagley can. Carter can. So those guys get K's full attention and coaching. I think the bench guys get little support/encouragement/etc. from K and the duke staff.

...and there's really no excuse for the Rat not having a viable bench. That is his own doing --- he has the talent there.

These kids aren't afraid to compete, they have the right to think they would get more than 14 total minutes. Bagley or no Bagley, a kid with Tucker's talent should be at least somewhere in a rotation.

 

[gary-7]

The post is not only "Spot on" it is also a problem that has been going on with ratty and puke for decades. As a UNC fan it sometimes works in my favor like when ratty decided not to play Ricky Price. He was the scariest player on the team, but he stayed in ratty's dog house. The spin doctors always have an explanation, but the number of transfers is staggering and can not be blamed completely on society or the kids!

Once again, I prefer the Roy method!

Good example. Ricky was wayyyy under-utilized.