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Kennedy Meeks

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word around chapel hill is that you decided months ago you would be leaving early for the nba. Why not go ahead and leave now? You have been an empty jersey for most of the year. Good luck getting drafted.
 
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Meeks is little more than a huge guy that isn't real physical, and can't jump. His future, if he has one, will be overseas.
 
NBA? cannot jump and cannot defend. His best move is a reverse layup. He will get killed with anyone with athletisim. I dont believe he is that dumb.
 
NBA? cannot jump and cannot defend. His best move is a reverse layup. He will get killed with anyone with athletisim. I dont believe he is that dumb.
He was better when he was fat. Yea maybe he could only play 12-15 minutes before. But at least it was 12-15 minutes at a high level. Now we get 22-25 min at a crappy level.
 
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so getting in shape is hindering his progress...i'm not arguing either way, but it wouldn't be any stranger than paige all of sudden not being able find his shot on a consistent basis.
 
Kenny Williams can't do any worse than Paige right now,so why not give him some more time?...oh yeah,that's right... We're talking about old stubborn ass Roy !!..sorry!! Stevie wonder can see hicks should start over Meeks!!
 
I don't want him to leave. He's a good player and could be really good if anyone can figure out how to rev his motor up.

It appears that everybody thought the motor would just magically appear if he lost weight. And early in the season, that seemed to be true.

This is 2 years in a row that Kennedy has looked good, gotten sick or injured for a short spell, and didn't made it all the way back.

I have to assume that they have run numerous batteries of medical tests to look for a physiological reason. And I assume we would have heard something (other than rumors that he was going pro) if something had turned up.

So what is it? And what should be done about it?

Pitino would have been plying him with hookers to get his blood flowing.

Yelling seems to have paid off with Brice. But I've never seen Roy yell at Kennedy. Probably not the right strategy for him. But what is the right strategy?
 
I agree... he is still hurt and nursing that knee. I wish he would nurse it from the bench. I am 5'10" and as white as loaf bread and could out jump him. LOL

You're blaming his hops on a knee problem? Dude hasn't had over a 3-inch vertical his entire life.
 
I know I've been hard on Meeks myself, but I really wish folks would ease up off of him. This guy has worked his tail off to lose weight and increase his conditioning this season so he could make major contributions this season. Unfortunately, sometimes when you lose that kind of weight, there's also a chance you lose some strength and power in addition to the weight. Looks like that's what has happened to KM. His energy and reaction time did not improve when he lost the weight. But weight isn't the only factor involved in increasing quickness and explosiveness. During the weight loss there should be intensive drills/exercises that focus on fast twitch muscles. Those exercises also have to work to retrain the brain to communicate with those muscles faster so they can respond/react quicker when messages are sent to perform. That's the part where KM is still developing. Retraining his brain to communicate quicker with those muscles. So, I do not think it has anything to do with his effort, it's really just a matter of his muscles not reacting quick/fast enough when messages are sent from his brain.
 
Meeks has a problem playing defense on a pick 'n roll play. He always has had that weakness . . part of that, IMO, is because he's slow afoot. Put somebody in front of him and he can't shoot over that player . .
 
The excuses being made in this thread for Kennedy are laughable and just not factual. Kennedy could never jump over a quarter. He never had power. He never had good feet. He's never had good reaction time. To pretend otherwise and act like its some miraculous slump that has taken him down is ridiculous. He gives no effort and unwilling to show some toughness and be the player we need him to be.
 
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Mike respectfully Sean May and Kennedy Meeks don't belong in the same discussion. Meeks has never played at the level that Sean May played at even on his worst night....
 
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Dam I wish I could have proudly wore a Carolina Jersey and represented the University when I was younger and still had game. Even with criticism I would have had to accept because I was not the next coming of Michael Jordan or Phil Ford I would still sleep good knowing I was good enough to have have been giving a scholarship to play for the team I grew up with.
 
To me it seems like he just doesn't want to be here. He was late to a shoot around earlier this year. That seems like an attitude issue to me.
 
I've been on these boards a long time. Some folks questioned May's effort from time to time but he was never on the level of Kennedy Meeks. Ever.
 
To me it seems like he just doesn't want to be here. He was late to a shoot around earlier this year. That seems like an attitude issue to me.
If he does not want to be here than I hope he does declare for the draft. Maybe Roy can find a grad transfer big man for next year to start with Hicks that does want to be at UNC for a year.
 
If he indeed does not want to be here is options will be very limited. No NBA GM will pick him in any round. Lot of work to do to even think about making a NBA roster.
 
I know I've been hard on Meeks myself, but I really wish folks would ease up off of him. This guy has worked his tail off to lose weight and increase his conditioning this season so he could make major contributions this season. Unfortunately, sometimes when you lose that kind of weight, there's also a chance you lose some strength and power in addition to the weight. Looks like that's what has happened to KM. His energy and reaction time did not improve when he lost the weight. But weight isn't the only factor involved in increasing quickness and explosiveness. During the weight loss there should be intensive drills/exercises that focus on fast twitch muscles. Those exercises also have to work to retrain the brain to communicate with those muscles faster so they can respond/react quicker when messages are sent to perform. That's the part where KM is still developing. Retraining his brain to communicate quicker with those muscles. So, I do not think it has anything to do with his effort, it's really just a matter of his muscles not reacting quick/fast enough when messages are sent from his brain.
Meeks isn't a scholarship athlete for "exercising". He is on scholarship for basketball. Weight loss is irrelevant if you can't play well.
 
If Meeks is smart he will stay in school and get that African-American Studies degree. Lord knows what kind of opportunities await with such a degree. LOL
 
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I know I've been hard on Meeks myself, but I really wish folks would ease up off of him. This guy has worked his tail off to lose weight and increase his conditioning this season so he could make major contributions this season. Unfortunately, sometimes when you lose that kind of weight, there's also a chance you lose some strength and power in addition to the weight. Looks like that's what has happened to KM. His energy and reaction time did not improve when he lost the weight. But weight isn't the only factor involved in increasing quickness and explosiveness. During the weight loss there should be intensive drills/exercises that focus on fast twitch muscles. Those exercises also have to work to retrain the brain to communicate with those muscles faster so they can respond/react quicker when messages are sent to perform. That's the part where KM is still developing. Retraining his brain to communicate quicker with those muscles. So, I do not think it has anything to do with his effort, it's really just a matter of his muscles not reacting quick/fast enough when messages are sent from his brain.

Most intelligent post on this thread. He is what he is, he's just not a quick twitch, explosive athlete.

Personally, I hope he and Isaiah both return.
 
He has always been better than some give him credit for. He is struggling but some of the criticism here is harsh. It is actually similar to some of the things Dukies have said about him for years. So congrats on that.
 
He has always been better than some give him credit for. He is struggling but some of the criticism here is harsh. It is actually similar to some of the things Dukies have said about him for years. So congrats on that.

Is it impossible for dook fans to be correct? Ever stop to think that what they say about Meeks might be right? It sure looks that way. Meeks hasn't gotten 1% better since he got here. He's basically the same player since day 1 on campus. He's just not that good.

Hopefully the next highly regarded big we recruit actually pans out.
 
He has always been better than some give him credit for. He is struggling but some of the criticism here is harsh. It is actually similar to some of the things Dukies have said about him for years. So congrats on that.

The "modern" fan base for UNC is a bit different from "the old days". In the old days we might offer criticism on a guy but that was about it. As cory mentions some of the "Carolina fans" these days are a bit harsh.
 
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I agree, Cory.

I had hoped that his explosiveness would improve a little more with the loss of weight but perhaps it's just not in his DNA. My biggest disappointment is that he just doesn't appear to have that bit of mean streak which is even more important in a PF/C of somewhat limited athleticism. He doesn't seem to react aggressively to getting punched in the mouth. Again, that's probably his DNA. He just appears to have a laid back personality. And it's great to have a laid back personality off the court, that's actually refreshing in this age of "look at me" athletes, but playing with that mindset isn't conducive to making the pros.

TBS, he's a very likeable young man and represents the university well. As I stated before, I hope he returns for his senior campaign. And i think it would very much behoove him to do so. But if not, I wish him nothing but the best in life.
 
Is it impossible for dook fans to be correct? Ever stop to think that what they say about Meeks might be right? It sure looks that way. Meeks hasn't gotten 1% better since he got here. He's basically the same player since day 1 on campus. He's just not that good.

Hopefully the next highly regarded big we recruit actually pans out.

Let me get this straight. From Kennedy's first game as a freshman until now, he has not improved one iota?

Don't agree with this one bit.

Here are a few numbers for you. Last 3 years:

field goal %, .548, .562, .582.
free throw % .586, .641, .667
blocks .8 , 1.2, 1.4
steals .3, .6, .9
assists .8, 1.1, 1.2
points 7.6, 11.4, 10.2
rebounds 6.1, 7.3, 6.2 (this is an area where Kennedy could focus)
average minutes 16.3, 23.3, 21.7

Playing 5 more minutes a game from a freshman and rebounding has increased but only a little bit and I don't want to figure out the per minute. Blocks, steals and assists are up each year and that includes less playing time this year than last year.

You can say Kennedy is not playing up to where you think or wish he could. You might want to see some more aggressive play.

You cannot say that he has not improved from his freshman year though.

I personally would like to see Kennedy more plugged in. Seems like he isn't getting into it like he has in the past. He still has the body to move people around to get a shot. I wonder if his knee is completely ok.
 
Is it impossible for dook fans to be correct? Ever stop to think that what they say about Meeks might be right? It sure looks that way. Meeks hasn't gotten 1% better since he got here. He's basically the same player since day 1 on campus. He's just not that good.

Hopefully the next highly regarded big we recruit actually pans out.

Being right and being a complete jackass are two different things. Some people posting here are not only being the latter but are also not the former. He has definitely gotten better. He has struggled through some significant stretches this year but one can not say he hasn't gotten better in his time year. Again, he is struggling right now. Saying he hasn't gotten better and hasn't been a big part of this team's success is ridiculous though. Hicks is playing better which is why he started and why Kennedy has had some games with decreased minutes.
 
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