Assuming he's a decent defender if Shaka wanted him in his VCU system. Seems like a big time get. Really the only thing missing is another volume, efficient perimeter shooter.
Kenny Williams to UNC
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Yeah Gary, I saw that nonsense yesterday but didn't take the time to dispute it, folks really tend to let the slightest thing change their thinking. I stated in as flat a set of terms as I could that this was coming down to UNC vs Uva and that the deciding factor was style of play that was heavy in our favor.
I enjoy exchanging with you because you & I tend to look at things in a similar manner, not that we will always agree but the manner in which we look at things is similar. I know for myself, I am not always going to say what people want to hear or expect, I am gonna say what I feel folks need to know and as long as I achieve that I feel mission is done. I like you prefer that if someone does not agree then lets discuss it, maybe you can give me more information that allows me to come to a new point of view but good luck with that cause it takes a really great point for me to chanage my views, you strike me as being very similar. You don't just blow in the wind with your thoughts, you think them thru and you lay it out there no matter if folks agree or not. I am very used to saying something that is a very tiny minority view point and watching it become the majority opinion as time passes by.
LOL, sometimes I wish we disagree more so we could debate more, makes me every once in a while nit pick a post from you just to be able to debate a little bit. Heck, I have been known to take a view point that I actually didn't agree with just to get in to a debate, just for the fun of it. In a real debate structure you do not always get to take the view point that you sincerely agree with.
No, what is missing is a long rim protector that strikes fear in to anyone looking to put a shot up in the painted area and able to play over the top on the offensive end for high % easy baskets.
Did you miss the fact that we struggled on the defensive boards last season or the fact that opposing big men, even some whose name no one knows, caused us problems defending and/or on the boards? Did you miss the fact that our back up center is Joel James or the fact that our starting center struggles to finish up & thru contact at 6'9" & 275lbs? But in the face of that your solution is another guard now that we have Kenny Williams in the fold? REALLY?
Yea.... I accidentally put "is" instead of "was". I think the biggest thing missing on this team was a perimeter shooter. In today's basketball, if you don't take and make a high rate of 3's you're at a severe disadvantage.
Most of our defensive issues were because:
1. We fouled at a high rate... And we were a bit unlucky where our opponents made 70% from the line.
2. We didn't force turnovers. Assuming Williams fits into a scheme at VCU that thrives on forcing turnovers, this can be a huge defensive addition.
Our effective FG defense was top 40 in the country. Our 3pt D was top 20, our 2 pt D was top 90 (not great, not terrible), our block percentage was top 90.
Would it help if we had a guy that's a legit 7'0" that blocks 3 shots/game and alters 10? Sure, that would help every team in the country.
But we ranked 350th in 3 points attempted per FG attempts in the country. That's just not a winnable ratio in today's basketball.
Congrats Gary! I think more credit should be given to fans like you who got it right.Yessir! And I'm not too modest to say I'm happy to have been RIGHT about this one!
Wow. Roy just can't bring in the kids we need.
This young man will be very, very good before he leaves Chapel Hill. Great to see us add both Williams and Maye this year. Both can shoot. Both are players who have very high ceilings (imo). The hunt for October begins now...
Kenny Williams is exactly what this team needs. He'll know his role from day 1 which will avoid any chemistry issues higher recruits may have caused. He's going to be around for a while - underpinning future recruiting classes. And he can shoot! I saw a highlight package and he takes 3's from way, way out.
Hopefully the game threads will be more fun to read/participate in next year!
Hopefully the game threads will be more fun to read/participate in next year!
Welcome to the Hill, Mr. Williams! I expect that you will join a long line of great Willamses at UNC! You will benefit gretly from the Tar Heel Family and we will benefit greatly from your skills and character!
I can't wait to see the spin the Chicken Littles put on to explain how we got a recruit after Roy lost his ability to relate to the modern game. (I'm guessing they try the "life-long fan that would have chosen us no matter what" gambit)
Heels are Family!
I can't wait to see the spin the Chicken Littles put on to explain how we got a recruit after Roy lost his ability to relate to the modern game. (I'm guessing they try the "life-long fan that would have chosen us no matter what" gambit)
Heels are Family!
The difference between IS and WAS means 2 very different questions asked and answered?
"Our effective FG defense was top 40 in the country. Our 3pt D was top 20, our 2 pt D was top 90 (not great, not terrible), our block percentage was top 90."
Did you read what I quoted from you, our 2 pt defense was top 90 and you say that is NOT terrible? Block % top 90? And let's speculate as to why we shot so poorly from the outside, could the fact that teams did not have to pack it in to defense potient inside scoring, you know, the type of scoring you get from a long rim protector, think that may have had something to do with things? Do you suggest that having Ochafor for example, did not help those dukies get better outside looks? Top 90 2 pt defense screams your bigs are not stopping their bigs.
Playing a wing at the 2 guard slot that couldn't jump shoot was a big part of the problem. Berry was on the bench, Britt shot much better last season as well, but niether helped us sitting on the bench while JP played at the 2 guard spot.
With A rim protecting big man that converts high % shots inside by playing over the top our whole look changes. Look at Ky, all that front court length allowed their back court guys to get a lot more clean looks on kick outs because so much attention had to be paid to the big men. UNC won a natty with Jackie Manual at the off guard spot but we had rim protectors and we got a ton of inside scoring. We also had a PG playing at his natural position and a 2 guard playing at his natural position. During much of the first half of last season we had a wing trying to play the 2 and a 2 trying to run the point and look for his offense when he could. And NO BIG ERASER inside the paint to correct mistakes made out front.
How many guards looked to drive the lane against Ky? There back court was pretty much a sieve but their rim protectors cleaned up those mistakes. Our 2pt scoring defense was top 90 means we didn't get our back court mistakes cleaned up with our top 90 2pt defense and our top 90 shot blocking. And yeah, that actually is terrible, for UNC.
You want to share some stats then share with me how we ranked in our centers having their shots blocked? Our front court scoring was more along the lines of Brice jump hooks, Meeks put backs after 2 or 3 shot attempts being either blocked or altered. Ball goes in deep to Meeks, what did you feel, most UNC teams our starting center gets the ball in that deep it is a score and many times and 1, was that what happened last season.
Look at the top 5 teams for most of last season, what was the common thread, they all had very potient front court players, go to scorers. Were those top 5 teams top 90 2pt scoring defense teams? Yet to raise us from that your suggestion WAS we needed more back court shooting?
Of course we could have used more back court scoring but the larger problem was in our front court and until Berry got more PT back court defense was a major problem, our back court defense was terrible for most of last season. Or did you not notice how often guards went off on us for career nights, even guards on teams that didn't even make the NIT.
Why do you think Roy nearly had a stroke on the sidelines of most of our games last season, it sure wasn't because we missed jump shots, it was because we were being scored on at will by poor back court defense and a front court void of the rim protecting eraser of mistakes.
Well, his AAU coach Boo Williams was quoted saying UVA was the leader. 24/7 had him going to UVA. BUT watch what they do not what they say!
I think I remember seeing he only shot 67% during his AAU season, but I could be confusing him with someone else.
Yes, but I feel like Boo has held a grudge against UNC since the Troy Williams recruitment. Maybe Boo wanted uva to be the leader. Kenny and his dad said UNC was out front the whole time, they just wanted to build the relationship.
David, now that we have guards in place through '17 the next two classes, '16 & '17 are really important. We will be terribly young for a year or two after next season hence the "older" kids being your pg/sg and hopefully with any luck hold on to a couple of our big"ish" kids ... so I can live with a young Giles, Bradley and Bam...
