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Last Jedi was amazing!

Yeah, but it doesn't really add anything. All you need to know is Obi Wan takes Annikan under his wing. Nothing else noteworthy happens.
History behind palpatine,politics,padme,midiochlorians,1st look at jedi council, build up of the coming war, how c3po was made, r2d2 being a naboo original droid, and of course, jar jar
 
The older I get the more I think I may actually believe Star Wars kind of sucks. Sort of makes me sad.
 
Well all the star wars “affecionados” are disgusted. I posted my reaction on fb and got skewered by star wars geeks. I dont seen why. It is really diff in tone than force awakens but to me its much more similar to the very first. So anyway be warned if you’re one of those who’s really into the franchise u apparently wont like it.
A quick look at the reviews on IMDB confirms this. I don't get it. I saw A New Hope in the movie theater and have been a huge Star Wars fan ever since. While The Last Jedi was arguably too long and the plot a bit messy, I thought it borrowed heavily from the original trilogy just like The Force Awakens did.

Not sure how history will rank The Last Jedi among the other movies, but I enjoyed it and thought it did a nice job setting up a number of important story lines for the next movie.
 
I grew up a huge Star Wars nerd. Every Saturday morning as a kid, I popped a pop tart (in the microwave, obvs) and headed to the basement to watch IV, V, or VI on our big screen with surround sound. Then Episode I came out when I was 10 so I sorta grew up as the new trilogy was being released as well. I was super into it. Read the books that continued the canon after VI, played the videogames (Rogue Squadron on N64 is one of the best games of all time), etc. etc. etc. Could tell you obscure facts about the planets, the different species, etc. etc. etc.

I thought The Force Awakens was terrible, if you're judging it based on the haughty standards of the Star Wars franchise. It was a complete rehash of A New Hope. Meanwhile, I thought Rogue One was FANTASTIC. It was so, so good and did an amazing job of tying in footage from A New Hope and truly bridging the gap between III and IV.

Anyway, I wanted to establish my credentials before giving my The Last Jedi review:

I wanted to like it. Immediately from the opening battle sequence, I could tell they brought more of their A-game than they did in The Force Awakens. One thing I appreciated about the newer trilogy.... okay, mostly just III, is they weren't afraid to make it darker and more evil. I don't know if it was just a product of being made in the 70s and early 80s or what, but the original three, while amazing, missed lots of opportunities to be more dark and sinister. So I appreciate that about all the newer films.

But anyway, I didn't love it. I'd give it a 5.5 out of 10. I just think too many parts of TLJ were hokey, contrived, or just dumb. Leia force floating through space and not uhm, suffocating, or uhm.... freezing? Ok. Also...........the fact that she lived during the entire movie. Okay, not exactly great foresight on that one, seeing as Fisher is dead now IRL. I understand they were limited by scenes she shot before death, but they could've easily written her death without any additional lines. She could've switched places with purple hair and piloted the ship via lightspeed through the Imperial fleet. They could've shown it from the other ship's POV (the one Leia really was on) and just had Po and the other characters kinda explain out loud what was happening.

The Yoda cameo was random and felt forced. He honestly didn't even look right. And in general, I agree with @heelmanwilm I haven't enjoyed Mark Hamill's role in the last two movies at all. It's just missing something. It doesn't help that he looks nothing like he did in the original three. It's like it's a totally different actor.

I don't know.... it was better than The Force Awakens for sure. It had some good moments. But I think its failure is in its casting. Adam Driver is such a goofy, silly looking dude to be playing an evil master-in-training. It's not very believable. But, at least he ditched his stupid mask / voice mod from the first one. I'm glad they even poked fun at that with Snoke's dialog... I think they realized how silly it was for him to emulate that feature from Vader when he himself wasn't clinging to life and thus didn't need a respirator / suit.

We'll see how it progresses, but I don't love the new series. There's lots of cool storylines post-VI I think they should take up. The Rogue Squadron series of books by Michael Stackpole starring Wedge Antilles (X-Wing pilot in IV, V, and VI) and Corran Horn (spoiler.... he ends up being a jedi too sooooooo Rey being "The Last Jedi" goes against Star Wars canon) would lend itself perfectly to movies. More X-Wing / space battles please!!!
 
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I grew up a huge Star Wars nerd. Every Saturday morning as a kid, I popped a pop tart (in the microwave, obvs) and headed to the basement to watch IV, V, or VI on our big screen with surround sound. Then Episode I came out when I was 10 so I sorta grew up as the new trilogy was being released as well. I was super into it. Read the books that continued the canon after VI, played the videogames (Rogue Squadron on N64 is one of the best games of all time), etc. etc. etc. Could tell you obscure facts about the planets, the different species, etc. etc. etc.

I thought The Force Awakens was terrible, if you're judging it based on the haughty standards of the Star Wars franchise. It was a complete rehash of A New Hope. Meanwhile, I thought Rogue One was FANTASTIC. It was so, so good and did an amazing job of tying in footage from A New Hope and truly bridging the gap between III and IV.

Anyway, I wanted to establish my credentials before giving my The Last Jedi review:

I wanted to like it. Immediately from the opening battle sequence, I could tell they brought more of their A-game than they did in The Force Awakens. One thing I appreciated about the newer trilogy.... okay, mostly just III, is they weren't afraid to make it darker and more evil. I don't know if it was just a product of being made in the 70s and early 80s or what, but the original three, while amazing, missed lots of opportunities to be more dark and sinister. So I appreciate that about all the newer films.

But anyway, I didn't love it. I'd give it a 5.5 out of 10. I just think too many parts of TLJ were hokey, contrived, or just dumb. Leia force floating through space and not uhm, suffocating, or uhm.... freezing? Ok. Also...........the fact that she lived during the entire movie. Okay, not exactly great foresight on that one, seeing as Fisher is dead now IRL. I understand they were limited by scenes she shot before death, but they could've easily written her death without any additional lines. She could've switched places with purple hair and piloted the ship via lightspeed through the Imperial fleet. They could've shown it from the other ship's POV (the one Leia really was on) and just had Po and the other characters kinda explain out loud what was happening.

The Yoda cameo was random and felt forced. He honestly didn't even look right. And in general, I agree with @heelmanwilm I haven't enjoyed Mark Hamill's role in the last two movies at all. It's just missing something. It doesn't help that he looks nothing like he did in the original three. It's like it's a totally different actor.

I don't know.... it was better than The Force Awakens for sure. It had some good moments. But I think its failure is in its casting. Adam Driver is such a goofy, silly looking dude to be playing an evil master-in-training. It's not very believable. But, at least he ditched his stupid mask / voice mod from the first one. I'm glad they even poked fun at that with Snoke's dialog... I think they realized how silly it was for him to emulate that feature from Vader when he himself wasn't clinging to life and thus didn't need a respirator / suit.

We'll see how it progresses, but I don't love the new series. There's lots of cool storylines post-VI I think they should take up. The Rogue Squadron series of books by Michael Stackpole starring Wedge Antilles (X-Wing pilot in IV, V, and VI) and Corran Horn (spoiler.... he ends up being a jedi too sooooooo Rey being "The Last Jedi" goes against Star Wars canon) would lend itself perfectly to movies. More X-Wing / space battles please!!!
I can definitely see your view. I knew when Disney got their hands on it, nothing would be the same. I really wish they had adapted the storylines from the books instead of trashing the old EU. To me, Disney's movies allow very little for back stories or character development. You kinda have to read between the lines. This last movie was much better than the first one. I am eager to see what timeframe they will glean from for the next trilogy. I really think the skywalker deal has played out.
 
To me, Disney's movies allow very little for back stories or character development. You kinda have to read between the lines.
This is a good point and dovetails with......

My point about the Luke inclusion just being weird. When we last left Luke in Episode VI, he's triumphant in outlasting the Emperor and successfully turning Vader who kills the Emperor but then perishes. Luke is sad at losing his father, but he returns triumphantly to Endor and smiles, seeing Anakin's spirit join Yoda's and Obi-wan's.

Now, the next time we see Luke is on this desolate planet he's banished himself to. Yes, he explains how his training of Kylo Ren went South, but why not SHOW that?! Why didn't they include quick-hitter 20-30 second snippets of Luke training Kylo and the other Jedi children in The Force Awakens, intentionally not explaining the context. They could've spliced those in throughout the movie, starting first with peaceful training and then building toward more charged, sinister interaction between Kylo and Luke. Then, for The Last Jedi, you've established that back story. It makes sense why Luke is self-banished. You either complete these flashbacks, ending in the scene they did show of Luke contemplating murdering Kylo in TFA, or you complete it in TLJ.

That would've taken just 5 minutes of total movie time, but it would've built the storyline so much more. How am I supposed to feel Luke's pain when I have no idea of what transpired between the end of VI and now? It's tough for me as an audience member. A crucial part of the story is jarringly absent.

Damn, I'm good. I should be a fukkin director. HMU @heelz2345
 
This is a good point and dovetails with......

My point about the Luke inclusion just being weird. When we last left Luke in Episode VI, he's triumphant in outlasting the Emperor and successfully turning Vader who kills the Emperor but then perishes. Luke is sad at losing his father, but he returns triumphantly to Endor and smiles, seeing Anakin's spirit join Yoda's and Obi-wan's.

Now, the next time we see Luke is on this desolate planet he's banished himself to. Yes, he explains how his training of Kylo Ren went South, but why not SHOW that?! Why didn't they include quick-hitter 20-30 second snippets of Luke training Kylo and the other Jedi children in The Force Awakens, intentionally not explaining the context. They could've spliced those in throughout the movie, starting first with peaceful training and then building toward more charged, sinister interaction between Kylo and Luke. Then, for The Last Jedi, you've established that back story. It makes sense why Luke is self-banished. You either complete these flashbacks, ending in the scene they did show of Luke contemplating murdering Kylo in TFA, or you complete it in TLJ.

That would've taken just 5 minutes of total movie time, but it would've built the storyline so much more. How am I supposed to feel Luke's pain when I have no idea of what transpired between the end of VI and now? It's tough for me as an audience member. A crucial part of the story is jarringly absent.

Damn, I'm good. I should be a fukkin director. HMU @heelz2345
That's why I can't understand all the hate for TPM. To me, it builds the story of anakin quiet well. It also lays the groundwork for what jedi were like, and also why they set themselves up for failure. The 2 Disney movies fail in this area. I am sure the novels surrounding these movies explain things better, but I don't trust Disney to stay true to their support either.
If Disney had went the route of RO in their approach, the foundation for these movies would have been better.

Given all that, I still think these movies are good. It opens the door to a new generation on fans, as well as a new section in the theme park
 
I just saw it. I saw the original 1977 film when I was about 10, for a little background. I sorta skipped the prequels. I wasn't that much of a SW nerd that I wanted to see those, even though I saw all three Lucas originals in the theater. They are timeless to me. Those 3 were enough for me, too, frankly.

I saw Force Awakens and Rogue One and I was slightly curious and re-energized in sort of a nostalgic way. After seeing Last Jedi... I'm officially Star Wars'ed out, like @coryfly alluded to. The Force Awakens was nostalgic and brought the old players back into a "this is what happened" sorta way, which was cool. But, The Last Jedi will be my last Star Wars movie! No real closure and really disappointed. Laura Dern looks OLD as hell. Benecio Del Toro's character was... meh. Any of the newer characters that have come from the last two films aren't enough to make me come back to see what story they continue to tack-on from now until 2099, or whenever people stop going to see these films. I guess my expectations were either too high, or I'm just sick of Star Wars, or both.
 
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