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Late stuff (Elon game)...

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...and I'm glad I watched this on DVR instead of live (I went to another game down here) --- I might've been as livid as Hubert was in the second half.

But yeah, I'll resist the temptation to jump to any conclusions from a first game, but there were some things we need to get cleaned up in a hurry, and these were as much mental as physical. First, credit to Elon --- they're much better than (inherently meaningless) preseason evaluations indicated, but that fact exposed the dangers of the sort of lapses we saw on our end.

With that said, at NO point in a second half should Elon ever lead this UNC team, so let's start with what went wrong:

- Shot-selection went thru some bad spells. RJ was hunting outside of flow due to his clunky start, and some of our shots around the paint were more throw-ups than strong gathers-and-finishes, all of which contributed to the lacksuster 32/80 perfomance

- JWash NOT taking shots he should have

- Some really bad decision-making by Seth in transition --- "give it up to get it back" is the way we're supposed to do things here

- Withers followed a good first half with a WTF second --- just yikes at some of those passes

- Jackson reverted back to his Memphis ice-skates --- take a deep breath, son

- Tyson looked lost, and we weren't effective in deploying him

- I continue to SMH at the stubborness of not forcing these guys into our tempo by mixing in traps

- And our vaunted Zone Offense --- sheesh. Elon deployed a 2-2-1 ameoba look that morphed into a 3-2 on wing passes, and we were just clunky as hell even getting into our pivot rotation.

- Gotta be careful with the cross-court pitch-aheads. Dean did not teach that as a routine for a reason --- you only used it for a WIDE-open look that would lead to a lay-up or create a 2-on-1. When in doubt, I want it in my elite PG's hands to create pressure with the Secondary.

Fortunately, disaster was averted with enough positives:
- When things worked, it was an enticing look at what we're capable of, incl some highlight film moments --- spectacular transition finishes, slick ball-movement, etc... LOVED that Dean Smith back-screen lob play late in first half, for example.

- RJ shook off a rough stretch to be the hero when things got dicey. It's great to have that guy when the chips are down.

- Time to recognize that Cadeau has turned into a not-just-good but excellent defender --- flashing some Joel Berry footwork to go with his quicks and ball-hawking instincts. And I think we can maybe put to rest the backing off of EC and Seth nonsense --- they combiined for 6/8 from deep (and Eliot had one taken away by an untimely whistle).

Anyway, for all the clunkiness, I'm glad Hubert didn't abandon utilizing depth. These are the precious few games that allow that to be built for down the road. So, how are we gonna do at KU? That's impossible to know, but at least the staff sure as hell should have some teaching material on film after this one... :oops:
 
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Thanks for the analysis, G7. 👍🏾 A win is a win, but …….

Hubert MIGHT have uttered his first cuss word ever when Elon took the second half lead
and thank goodness RJ quickly took matters into his hands by hitting some big shots.
He trusts himself and that’s good enough for me.

Elon was really stroking threes and l’ll give them kudos for their effort.
Lots of good, bad, and ugly for film sessions ahead of a tough challenge Friday vs the
Jayhawks.

I like our talent and our depth. I like Elliot’s improvements on defense and three
point shooting. Seth, thanks for returning to Chapel Hill. Ian and Drake are gonna
get better and better. I’m hopeful our front line demonstrates improved consistency
on both ends of the floor.

1-0, with a lot of challenges on the horizon. Go Heels ⛹🏾‍♂️.
 
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I’ll just say this, if Hubert refuses to randomly full court press and half court trap with this team then he’s just never going to utilize it. This roster is tailor made for it and last night we saw basically none of it. Stop letting other teams dictate pace and force the pace onto them.
 
1st game, and with some good, but plenty of areas of concern. The good for me starts with the uptempo pace while only having 6 turnovers/22 assists. RJ 8 assist - 0 TO's, EC 9 assist - 3 TO's. Seth and Elliot more confident 3 point stroke was nice to see. RJ is still a clutch bucket getter, even when he is having a sub par shooting night.

Concerning that we shoot 40% from 3land, and 82% from the charity stripe with only 6 turnovers and the game was in doubt late against a small mid major. Front court was as worrisome as most thought it would be. Washington and Tyson looked a step slow on everything. Only 1 game, hoping they can catch up with the flow.

It is going to be interesting how and who steps up in forming a rotation in these cupcake non conference games, especially if Seth's play continues to demands bigger minutes along with EC abd RJ.

It was a win on opening night, but questions abound with this challenging roster makeup.
 
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The depth and athleticism are at an all time high for us. But our halfcourt offense is (and has been) average at best. Chucking up 32 3's a game with no rebounding is NOT going to win big games. So use this depth and for 10 min a game play a suffocating press. Get some easy buckets and wear down the other team.
 
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They are going to be fun to watch, and when they are hot they will really wear some teams out good or bad teams.

We had Bacot for 13 years and for the last 4 of them we knew he would be leaving sooner or later yet we still dropped the recruiting ball.
 
Great analysis G-7!

The atmosphere was lively and the game was definitely more exciting than I thought it would be. Some Elon fans near me actually asked me directly if I was afraid UNC could lose to the Phoenix. (BTW: They changed their name to the Phoenix after their main buildings burned to ashes over 100 years ago!) I found this out after I yelled, [" It is time for them to burst into flames!"] I told those fans that I never felt UNC could lose this game because it was obvious we could and would pull away from them as soon as we focused. Great to have RJ on our team and both EC and Seth have become zone busters! Their weird umbrella zone thingy did seem to confuse our guys but we solved it on most trips even though it did slow us down a bit. I feel Tyson, Ian, and Drake are making steps but all of them need time to find their footing!
 
Tyson looks awful to me in these three games Inc preseason. He looks non-athletic and cannot create his own shot. His defense is slow and it honestly appears like he’s fouling constantly. I’m so unimpressed with his game. It’s early but he doesn’t show any sign of being a top talent from the transfer portal.

I really thought Withers played esp poorly in the second half. They placed him at the FT like when Elon went zone. They would get him the ball and he’d turn and no have a defender on him. Rather then go up with authority he created difficult shots for himself or passed out. His play this season is key and he should be better at this point
 
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I’ll just say this, if Hubert refuses to randomly full court press and half court trap with this team then he’s just never going to utilize it. This roster is tailor made for it and last night we saw basically none of it. Stop letting other teams dictate pace and force the pace onto them.
Amen to that, a it's even more frustrating that I know we've practiced it...
 
I really thought Withers played esp poorly in the second half. They placed him at the FT like when Elon went zone. They would get him the ball and he’d turn and no have a defender on him. Rather then go up with authority he created difficult shots for himself or passed out. His play this season is key and he should be better at this point
Tyson is better than this --- he's searching for his niche right now --- but yes, Withers operating vs Zone is not a good thing. He's athletic as hell, but hands and passing will always be issues unfortubnately.
 
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They'll eventually need to figure out the right substitution pattern for when Cadeau goes to the bench. I don't think RJ/Jackson/Powell at the same time will be a great combination. RJ and Jackson are really similar players and the offense stalls already with RJ being the primary ball handler. That was the main eye catching thing to me. How are they going to deal with Cadeau on the bench? I always thought Seth was more of a wing, so it doesn't look like he can be experimented as the PG2. So they'll have to manufacture some combination of a lineup with Cadeau where the offense doesn't sputter too much.

My other concern if Tyson. I thought UNC acquired maybe the best shooter in the country but if his lateral speed is what he showed against Elon, idk how he'll get open on the offensive end. And it looks like he might be a liability defensively. Only one game, but he was eye poppingly slow to me. I'll probably have to take back almost everything I said lineup wise regarding the necessity of having Cade Tyson in the starting 5, lol. But it's still early so hopefully he shows more.

I don't know what else there is to say about the bigs. I think they'll be like that all season. They're all pretty inconsistent or somewhat limited players. I just hope one breaks through where you at least know what you'll get out of them every game. Lubin seems to be the most likely of that to me? Kind of alarming that the bigs combined for 0 FT attempts. That's so unlike any UNC team I've ever seen.

It shouldn't be a huge surprise if RJ's FG percentage takes a dip this season. Without Bacot or Ingram, he's really the only late shot clock player on this roster unless Cadeau hunts for his offense more (which I think he should).

Cautiously optimistic that this is real from Seth and he'll be a huge factor for this team offensively and has become a legitimate 2-way player. That obviously opens up a ton of things and possibilities.

I think deep down we all know what this team will be. This will be a 3PT dependent team and a team that needs to shoot as many good 3PT shots as possible. They aren't built to win many 60-55 games by grinding it out from the FT line and off offensive rebounds. Let it fly with confidence. The good news is they can beat any team in the country if they hit shots. The bad news is they'll be susceptible against any team in the NCAA Tournament too.
 
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