Just finished watching Black for the 3rd time at the Beach Ball Classic and to say he was not very good would be be putting it nicely. He has good length on defense but he was very poor offensively. He just stands around and does very little to create for himself or others. His outside shot isn't very good. This kid has a long way to go to make an impact at Carolina. Maybe it was just a bad week but I was very disappointed.
Leaky Black (Beach Ball Classic)
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I watched on my computer as well and I agree 100%. He is very slow and after the game he wouldn’t even shake hands with the other team. I wasn’t that impressed with Moore either. Neither guy can shoot unless it was just a bad game. However, equal or better competition tells a lot about guys who are good or who are overrated. I see Leaky Black as a 4 year back up at best regardless of what position Coach Williams tries him at. Based on tonight it wouldn’t hurt my feelings if Moore didn’t come. UNC needs bigs not more guards and undersized guys like Moore. He looks to be around 6’4 instead of 6’6 like many have him listed and he sure isn’t a Sg.
Moore was playing on a gimpy ankle but he played very well the first 2 game of the tournament.
There is only 1 opinion that matters with these players as far as their recruitment and he's not on this board to give it. There is a reason he offered and im pretty sure he know what he wants in Chapel Hill. May have been a bad weekend.
I saw a game he played last year for the Florida team he played for and I wasn't overly impressed either.
Folks blame his struggles on lack of aggression, but I don't think that's really the issue. Leaky can't really shoot or create off the dribble, even in HS. That's a bad combo. He had the same problems in AAU. He isn't aggressive because he doesn't have a skill-set he can use aggressively.
I think he has a role to play on a good team - on defense and as a facilitator - but the idea that he's a 6'8" PG just doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
I think he has a role to play on a good team - on defense and as a facilitator - but the idea that he's a 6'8" PG just doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
To say Leaky can not shoot or create off the dribble is dubious, shoot or create like a PG no, that isn't him and I have been trying to tell folks that. He isn't a point guard now, he is a facilitator wing who very well may grown in to a power forward, kid is 6'8" last I heard and is expected to not be done growing.
The kid just has not looked to shoot or for personal scoring, think Kenny Williams on the offensive end but in the Theo like wing facilitator role or a sweet passing power forward role you have something potentially special. He IMO does jump shoot better than Theo, he hesitates to take the shot much more than Theo ever has. That is actually not a bad thing folks ! I think he ends up as a power forward by the time he leaves UNC and frankly, that could be a big time advantage for us, start working on those post up moves and a jump hook young man!
Yep, #1. I see him as a point forward, much like Theo. He has handles, athleticism, and court vision. His shot is a work in progress but his form is better than Theo’s.
People keep repeating this idea that he has a great handle, but there's really no evidence for it. He takes good care of the ball and passes well, but he doesn't beat people off the dribble, even in HS. If he's not a matchup nightmare in AAU or HS, why expect him to be one in the ACC?
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Anyone that thought Leaky was an Ingram clone just had not seen him play because they were and are very different players. Ingram always looked for his scoring, sweet jumper, Leaky is and has been more of a facilitator than a scorer.
"platuea" means what, I guess my Latin is a bit on the rusty side?
To the poster saying he does not agree that leaky has a great handle, yet again, if we are talking PGs ok, we are not talking PGs folks. For 6'8" IMO he has a very good handle, for a wing he has a very good handle and the length to play over the top. I mean geez, how did Joel Berry ever make our team with his inability to defend the center position... By the way, I am aware that Leaky formerly was a PG, so was Henson, so was Anthony Davis, that was also the past but we are now dealing with the present, according to Charles Dickens that is a different ghost!
He has a solid handle in the sense that he won't lose the ball coming up the court, but he doesn't create anything off the dribble in high school.
When you are option one or 2 on your high school team and option 6-8 on your college team and a potential 4 year player there is plenty of room and time for develpoment..
He is not guarded by PGs in high school or in AAU. It's wings (and sometimes bigs) he struggles to create against.
"Mis match nightmare" and "option 6-8" don't really jibe. If you're truly the former, you're almost certainly not the latter.
Hey, if you say so, imagine me thinking that opposing teams would guard a PG with a PG, what the heck was I thinking...SMH...
He's the tallest player on the floor for Cox Mill. Why would teams guard him with their smallest player? Theo is our best playmaker, but he's not guarded by PGs. Leaky is guarded by wings, and he will be guarded by wings. And to this point he's struggled to do anything with the ball against wings.
This is definitely true, but some non-stars are much easier to integrate than others. A 3-and-D player helps any team, but a player who isn't a threat to shoot or drive has a lot of trouble being a net positive on offense. Unless he becomes a different player on offense, Leaky will have to be an outstanding defender to be a net positive overall.
I’m very happy to have Leaky matriculating to UNC. Very happy. He will thrive in a Theo-like roll.
Leaky is like 6'8 or 6'9. Rather he can play PG is not the point. The point is obviously he is very versatile for his size. A really good comparison would be Pinson. Also if anything with his versatility he makes for an excellent practice player. We are good at the Guard position for a few more years so leaky has time to be molded.
"He's the tallest player on the floor for Cox Mill. Why would teams guard him with their smallest player?" Maybe because outside the paint quickness has the advantage over length, especially if the lengthy guy is not a great jump shooter. You trying to tell me that opposing teams play their centers (typically the biggest guy on the court) on leaky in high school, do they put their PG on the center?
Why is Theo not guarded by PGs, may have a lil something to do with the fact he is a wing and is guarded by opposing wings.
Come on guy, you are conflating this whole thing to try to match up with a Leaky is not a solid ball handler narrative and that just is not the case for the position he will play at UNC. It is yet another in a sting of gigs toward our players or recruits, getting tiresome really.
A long, athletic wing who will run the floor and can finish, see the court and distribute, and should be molded as a long defender who can guard the 2 through 4 down the line. He is ranked appropriately, he is not a one and done type looking to enter his freshman year with a bang like Little and White may be, and I'm fine with that.
In what way? Does he shoot well? Does he get to the rim? Does he post up smaller players? Does he cut well?
He's versatile on defense for sure, but on offense he's a tall, skinny wing who can pass but doesn't do much else. That's not versatility.
They guard Leaky with a wing, not a PG. That's what I'm telling you.
You're attributing his lack of shot creation to something that isn't true. He plays the wing, is guarded by wings, and struggles to create against wings.
I've hyped Coby and Nas like crazy, because their play on the court has merited it. Leaky's play on the court has been disappointing.
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Well lets see, he is a PG that can not shoot nor create vs wings and is a weak ball handle, makes ya have to wonder how in the heck he was ranked in the top 100 recruits in the country and got a scholly from UNC? There are a lot of guys that can neither handle the ball well nor shoot and I don't see many of them being ranked in the top 100 in the country much less get schollys to play for Roy Williams. So I guess this kid is a incidated isolant?
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Your negativity is amazing. Leaky will be a very valuable player for us for four years. You have some corvine cuisine in your future.
What amazes me is how negative some are to a player that hasn't even put the uniform on yet and played his first game at UNC. Roy recruited him and he accepted the offer he loves the Heels and I trust Roy. Let's just wait and see how he turns out
Are these the same people saying Leaky has no game who said Maye was a WASTED SCHOLAR SHIP....U just have to wonder...
Leaky isn't a top 10 recruit, he is in the 60's, meaning he will be a multiple year player that needs development. Nothing wrong with that. You can't teach his size, Roy and staff will develop the rest.
Absolutely! IN addition to being a big time talent that most any coach in the country would love to have committed the kid really wanted to be a Tar Heel. He committed to us way before the NCAA finally cleared us, committed to us in the heat of all the negative BS being aimed at us, he so wanted to be a Tar Heel that none of that mattered to the kid.
As a player, as I have been trying to explain to 1 poster, he is a multi positional mismatch. AS a wing, the position he is brought in to play unless he sprouts even more in to a power forward (where I do expect him to end up), he is an excellent ball handle and passer at 6'8". The kid is not as much a poor shooter as he is a hesitant shooter, he is pass first to a fault, so much that he is going to have to learn to be a bit greedy in college.
