Lets talk about sleep

[chickenhunter]

When I was young, I could get 3 hours of sleep and be absolutely fine the next day. Now, I sleep 8-9 a night and sometimes I dont feel well rested. I don't have sleep apnea, I don't snore.
I sleep on my side most of the time. Used to sleep on my belly but now it causes my back to be tight as hell in the morning. I have three weighted blankets on the bed. One of them across me and the other two are on end of bed and I put my feet under them. I love the heavy feeling on my feet.

 

[gteeitup]

When I was young, I could get 3 hours of sleep and be absolutely fine the next day. Now, I sleep 8-9 a night and sometimes I dont feel well rested. I don't have sleep apnea, I don't snore.
I sleep on my side most of the time. Used to sleep on my belly but now it causes my back to be tight as hell in the morning. I have three weighted blankets on the bed. One of them across me and the other two are on end of bed and I put my feet under them. I love the heavy feeling on my feet.

i suffer from this sometimes as well…do you have something that tracks your sleep?

i have a garmin watch that tracks it, assuming it’s legit, and it gives my rem cycles which i have learned to try and live by.

 

[gunslingerdick]

I sleep sound pretty much nightly. Occasionally I have trouble getting to sleep but once asleep, I’m good until morning. Have to get up to piss more frequently these days but usually no problem going back to sleep. I usually get 7 hours per night (12:00 am to 7:00 am). I sleep on my back or left side mostly.

 

[strummingram]

I like it cool. In the winter, it's the best sleep.

 

[blazers]

I need 8. So I fell back in love with napping 3 yrs ago when we had a kid.

 

[bluetoe]

When I was young, I could get 3 hours of sleep and be absolutely fine the next day. Now, I sleep 8-9 a night and sometimes I dont feel well rested. I don't have sleep apnea, I don't snore.
I sleep on my side most of the time. Used to sleep on my belly but now it causes my back to be tight as hell in the morning. I have three weighted blankets on the bed. One of them across me and the other two are on end of bed and I put my feet under them. I love the heavy feeling on my feet.

this is very much like me. I am a bonafide insomniac, and always have been. My sleep patterns are ridiculous.

I grew up sleeping on my stomach in what I call the running position...one leg pulled up on the side my face was facing, with forearms under the pillow. Best sleep position ever. I could thrive on just a few hours for days on end but catchup sleeping-in on weekend mornings was fantastic. Even much later in life, if I needed to catch up on work, it was nothing for me to go in and pull an all-nighter and just keep going the next day. I can still do it but I suffer if I do.

Now I have sleep apnea and use a bipap machine but not consistently. I sleep on my side for the most part now and sometimes on my back because of a back condition, but when I get out of bed my back is stiff and sore no matter how well I slept. I generally only get a little over four hours in bed, and an hour or two in my TV-watching chair.

Funny about the blankets thing. As a kid I slept in a very cold room in the winter, and I would have several really heavy quilts over me. Best...sleep...ever. Now I only use a thinner blanket but I can not sleep unless the sheet and blanket is tucked back up under my feet. I have to have that feeling of them being sort of swaddled. Even when I sleep in a hotel, I always untuck the foot of the bed for that purpose because I can't deal with the covers not wrapping around my feet.

 

[prlyles]

this is very much like me. I am a bonafide insomniac, and always have been. My sleep patterns are ridiculous.

I grew up sleeping on my stomach in what I call the running position...one leg pulled up on the side my face was facing, with forearms under the pillow. Best sleep position ever. I could thrive on just a few hours for days on end but catchup sleeping-in on weekend mornings was fantastic. Even much later in life, if I needed to catch up on work, it was nothing for me to go in and pull an all-nighter and just keep going the next day. I can still do it but I suffer if I do.

Now I have sleep apnea and use a bipap machine but not consistently. I sleep on my side for the most part now and sometimes on my back because of a back condition, but when I get out of bed my back is stiff and sore no matter how well I slept. I generally only get a little over four hours in bed, and an hour or two in my TV-watching chair.

Funny about the blankets thing. As a kid I slept in a very cold room in the winter, and I would have several really heavy quilts over me. Best...sleep...ever. Now I only use a thinner blanket but I can not sleep unless the sheet and blanket is tucked back up under my feet. I have to have that feeling of them being sort of swaddled. Even when I sleep in a hotel, I always untuck the foot of the bed for that purpose because I can't deal with the covers not wrapping around my feet.

I can relate to all this.

 

[heelmanwilm]

I’ll sit on the couch fading in and out trying to watch something but go lie in bed and….nothing…wide awake. Lately I’ve started reading when I get in bed and that helps. Sometimes I’ll read one of @bluetoe posts and that knocks me out good. I have a weighted blanket and the ac cranking and a fan going. I’m dreading the holiday visit to my parents. Hot as fuk with no fan or ceiling fan in the guest room. We both usually just lie there and bitch about it all night then sleep like babies in the car on the drive home. (Not at the same time)

 

[bluetoe]

Sometimes I’ll read one of @bluetoe posts and that knocks me out good.

very funny, motherfvcker. Actually that works for me too. I become almost mesmerized by the majesty of my words. That and watching cab view train videos on youtube works just about as well.

I picked up on the a/c being cranked. Me too, I want cold. I can't do stuffy.

 

[heelmanwilm]

very funny, motherfvcker. Actually that works for me too. I become almost mesmerized by the majesty of my words. That and watching cab view train videos on youtube works just about as well.

I picked up on the a/c being cranked. Me too, I want cold. I can't do stuffy.

When I’m at a hotel or bnb and the power is on someone else’s dime…that shyt gets cranked down to 64. At home I begrudgingly make do with 68

 

[pooponduke]

I’m dreading the holiday visit to my parents.

Where do they live? Can't you clandestinely pop open a window? Surely it's getting down to 68 or so at night?

I once stayed on the top floor of a B&B at a holiday party where the owner had cranked up the heat for the dinner/party portion because there was so many coming and goings for the entertainment that things were cool in the house. They stayed in another building on site and forgot to return the thermostat to normal before heading off for the night. I woke up hours later roasting. Knew the thermostat was one of those "locked" models, so three windows went open even though it was in the 20's outside. Slept like a teenager.

 

[JuleZ '02 HEEL]

I'm already tired tomorrow.

 

[chickenhunter]

I sleep sound pretty much nightly. Occasionally I have trouble getting to sleep but once asleep, I’m good until morning. Have to get up to piss more frequently these days but usually no problem going back to sleep. I usually get 7 hours per night (12:00 am to 7:00 am). I sleep on my back or left side mostly.

My dr prescribed Doxizosin for me for the same thing. Has helped some but I still get up 2 times a night. Before medication, I was up 4-5 a night.

Does anyone sleep with some type background sound? I sleep with a thunderstorm/raining sound from youtube. Its weird to me because I can sleep through constant/consistent noise like a TV, music, people talking. I cant sleep when there is intermittent noise like a dog barking, someone blowing a horn, phone ringing. Someone snoring is the fuggin worse. I cant sleep in a room with someone snoring. I cant stand to be IN a room with someone snoring. Most annoying sound. I hate when I'm in a room watching tv and someone comes in, sits down and then falls asleep and starts snoring. I gotta friend that will do that and when he snores, its like double-barrel Poulan chainsaws cranking. I can turn the TV wide open and can barely hear it over his snores. Fuggin drives me insane.

 

[heelmanwilm]

Where do they live? Can't you clandestinely pop open a window? Surely it's getting down to 68 or so at night?

I once stayed on the top floor of a B&B at a holiday party where the owner had cranked up the heat for the dinner/party portion because there was so many coming and goings for the entertainment that things were cool in the house. They stayed in another building on site and forgot to return the thermostat to normal before heading off for the night. I woke up hours later roasting. Knew the thermostat was one of those "locked" models, so three windows went open even though it was in the 20's outside. Slept like a teenager.

They’re in southern sc so cool nights are no guarantee even in Nov. but it does help

 

[bluetoe]

My dr prescribed Doxizosin for me for the same thing. Has helped some but I still get up 2 times a night. Before medication, I was up 4-5 a night.

Does anyone sleep with some type background sound? I sleep with a thunderstorm/raining sound from youtube. Its weird to me because I can sleep through constant/consistent noise like a TV, music, people talking. I cant sleep when there is intermittent noise like a dog barking, someone blowing a horn, phone ringing. Someone snoring is the fuggin worse. I cant sleep in a room with someone snoring. I cant stand to be IN a room with someone snoring. Most annoying sound. I hate when I'm in a room watching tv and someone comes in, sits down and then falls asleep and starts snoring. I gotta friend that will do that and when he snores, its like double-barrel Poulan chainsaws cranking. I can turn the TV wide open and can barely hear it over his snores. Fuggin drives me insane.

I routinely fall asleep in my chair watching TV in spite of my best efforts to not do so. When I go on to bed, I turn on the TV and it helps me go to sleep again... I would have trouble zonking out otherwise.

They say that the blue light a TV gives off is bad for you somehow. I don't really care that much but I have thought about playing some rain/thunderstorm or spacecrafty rumble kind of thing to see how that works. When I was a kid and never wanted to go to sleep. I could turn on our old Electrolux vacuum cleaner and lay on the floor next to it and be out in like a minute.

 

[bluetoe]

this is a great thread. Here's one I would love some feedback on. There is the old saw about turkey making you sleepy but the modern medico know-it-alls insist that it's an old wives tale. They are more FOS than a Christmas turkey.

I have never been able to nap, no matter how drowsy and worn out I was. The one exception was whenever there was a big feed going on with turkey as the main course. Turkey and stuffing with turkey stuff in it, giblet gravy, etc. That was the one time that that nagging little voice telling me I better not nod off would go away and leave me to sawing a few logs in peace. And this was before there was such a thing as the internet. I had no idea what tryptophan was. I didn't know that turkey had that reputation. I just knew that after gorging on turkey, that nagging bastard would go away and leave me to nap peacefully.

And that's my problem. Some inner voice tells me not to go to sleep, I might miss something or something bad might happen. Just a touch of mild anxiety, or hyper-curiosity sort of thing making me fight off the 'z's.. But stuff me full of turkey, and it's goodnight Irene.

 

[tarheel0910]

I just want to thank @bluetoe for his book long post. I know it's helped many of us fall asleep.

 

[bluetoe]

I just want to thank @bluetoe for his book long post. I know it's helped many of us fall asleep.

weird. This was funny when @heelmanwilm said it.

 

[tarheel0910]

weird. This was funny when @heelmanwilm said it.

Didn't realize he said it. To be fair, I haven't read most of the posts in this thread.

 

[pooponduke]

weird. This was funny when @heelmanwilm said it.

Maybe he wasn't being funny, but genuine. You and I come from the same keyboarding group, don't mind reading, and realize some things can't be stated properly with 140 characters. Others, are challenged with that. Now, go to the deli and buy some turkey so you can get a good night's sleep instead of staying up to watch election results.

 

[tarheel0910]

Maybe he wasn't being funny, but genuine. You and I come from the same keyboarding group, don't mind reading, and realize some things can't be stated properly with 140 characters. Others, are challenged with that. Now, go to the deli and buy some turkey so you can get a good night's sleep instead of staying up to watch election results.

Of course it can be stated within 140 characters. Let me give you proof:

GFY

 

[bluetoe]

Maybe he wasn't being funny, but genuine. You and I come from the same keyboarding group, don't mind reading, and realize some things can't be stated properly with 140 characters. Others, are challenged with that. Now, go to the deli and buy some turkey so you can get a good night's sleep instead of staying up to watch election results.

well, if he was being genuine, F him. On the other hand, if he was trying to be funny, F him too. Just F him. Just kidding, I enjoy a little barb throwing with some here, and he's one of them. I appreciated his post. But F him anyway..

So then you DID read my analytical essay on turkey. Awright, that's one...

On the other hand, one of the best nights of my life was when underdog DJT came from out of nowhere in 2016. Not sure if I stay up this time or not, but I might just skip the turkey and hope for the best.

 

[heelmanwilm]

this is a great thread. Here's one I would love some feedback on. There is the old saw about turkey making you sleepy but the modern medico know-it-alls insist that it's an old wives tale. They are more FOS than a Christmas turkey.

I have never been able to nap, no matter how drowsy and worn out I was. The one exception was whenever there was a big feed going on with turkey as the main course. Turkey and stuffing with turkey stuff in it, giblet gravy, etc. That was the one time that that nagging little voice telling me I better not nod off would go away and leave me to sawing a few logs in peace. And this was before there was such a thing as the internet. I had no idea what tryptophan was. I didn't know that turkey had that reputation. I just knew that after gorging on turkey, that nagging bastard would go away and leave me to nap peacefully.

And that's my problem. Some inner voice tells me not to go to sleep, I might miss something or something bad might happen. Just a touch of mild anxiety, or hyper-curiosity sort of thing making me fight off the 'z's.. But stuff me full of turkey, and it's goodnight Irene.

Imo it’s a case of people eating turkey once a year and when they do they over do it and have to sleep it off. So your mind associates turkey with a big old nap.

 

[tarheel0910]

well, if he was being genuine, F him. On the other hand, if he was trying to be funny, F him too. Just F him. Just kidding, I enjoy a little barb throwing with some here, and he's one of them. I appreciated his post. But F him anyway..

 

[heelmanwilm]

Any of y’all have kids can relate to this. Sleep is actually a learned behavior. In other words how you fall asleep as an infant is how you need to fall asleep later unless you unlearn it. Typically babies are rocked to sleep. So if they wake up in the night they need to be rocked again. The key is not to rock them but just make sure they’re fed and dry then lay them down to fall asleep on their own. Then if they wake up during the night
They don’t need your help to fall back asleep. I learned this the hard way. I had a monster jeep that me and the wife loved to go trail riding in including her pregnant mos. The ride was jarring to say the least. When our first was born she had to be rocked borderline violently to get to sleep. Exhausting. Then we got educated on our second and just threw him in the crib and walked off. He was sleeping through the night within two weeks. Anyway that’s how it works as an adult too. Once you’ve created that association of sleep with fans, blankets, noise or whatever then you’re hooked.

 

[bluetoe]

Imo it’s a case of people eating turkey once a year and when they do they over do it and have to sleep it off. So your mind associates turkey with a big old nap.

and I should have said in my previous post that some simp would come up with 'well you just ate a lot' without having the awareness and common sense to understand that more than likely, I have gorged just as heavily on other food sources with no comparable result while turkey gives me the consistently similar results that I posted about. If just eating a lot made me sleepy enough to nap, then I would have started a thread about how eating a lot makes me sleepy enough to nap. Which it does not, unless turkey is the main meat served. Turkey allows me to actually relax and nap and other food doesn't, so GFY and your opinion. But having said that, your input as always is of course deeply appreciated.

 

[heelmanwilm]

and I should have said in my previous post that some simp would come up with 'well you just ate a lot' without having the awareness and common sense to understand that more than likely, I have gorged just as heavily on other food sources with no comparable result while turkey gives me the consistently similar results that I posted about. If just eating a lot made me sleepy enough to nap, then I would have started a thread about how eating a lot makes me sleepy enough to nap. Which it does not, unless turkey is the main meat served. Turkey allows me to actually relax and nap and other food doesn't, so GFY and your opinion. But having said that, your input as always is of course deeply appreciated.

Obviously I didn’t take your gluttony into account

 

[bluetoe]

Any of y’all have kids can relate to this. Sleep is actually a learned behavior. In other words how you fall asleep as an infant is how you need to fall asleep later unless you unlearn it. Typically babies are rocked to sleep. So if they wake up in the night they need to be rocked again. The key is not to rock them but just make sure they’re fed and dry then lay them down to fall asleep on their own. Then if they wake up during the night
They don’t need your help to fall back asleep. I learned this the hard way. I had a monster jeep that me and the wife loved to go trail riding in including her pregnant mos. The ride was jarring to say the least. When our first was born she had to be rocked borderline violently to get to sleep. Exhausting. Then we got educated on our second and just threw him in the crib and walked off. He was sleeping through the night within two weeks. Anyway that’s how it works as an adult too. Once you’ve created that association of sleep with fans, blankets, noise or whatever then you’re hooked.

there's nothing to this. When my mother was carrying me, she was frightened by a broken record...but it had no affect on me...affect on me...affect on me...

 

[bluetoe]

Obviously I didn’t take your gluttony into account

please try to never make that mistake again. My gluttony at family events is legendary.

 

[blazers]

In the past i've been hooked for weeks on ear-plugs, noisemakers, sleep masks and probably things i've forgotten.

I had a nasty head-cold for a week and got hooked on breath-right strips. My cold was gone, my nose was fine, but after tossing and turning for an hr, i'd get outta bed to apply a strip and be good to go. It only lasted a few nites or a week.

Right now i'm hooked on 2.5 pages of fiction. My brain won't turn off without a few pages of some book which takes me a yr to finish. It's all psychological, cuz I can nap with nothing but some peace and quiet.

 

[blazers]

My dr prescribed Doxizosin for me for the same thing. Has helped some but I still get up 2 times a night. Before medication, I was up 4-5 a night.

Literally the nite i turned 40 i had to get up to piss at 2am. That's waned a bunch though since I just drink (beer, etc) less at nite and try not to gulp too much water after 9.

 

[blazers]

Does anyone sleep with some type background sound? I sleep with a thunderstorm/raining sound from youtube. Its weird to me because I can sleep through constant/consistent noise like a TV, music, people talking. I cant sleep when there is intermittent noise like a dog barking, someone blowing a horn, phone ringing. Someone snoring is the fuggin worse. I cant sleep in a room with someone snoring. I cant stand to be IN a room with someone snoring. Most annoying sound. I hate when I'm in a room watching tv and someone comes in, sits down and then falls asleep and starts snoring. I gotta friend that will do that and when he snores, its like double-barrel Poulan chainsaws cranking. I can turn the TV wide open and can barely hear it over his snores. Fuggin drives me insane.

I'm a light sleeper, so intermittent noise or new noises messes me up. I sleep like shit anywhere new the first nite due to ice-makers, creaks, crap hitting the roof, new street noises, neighbors or whatever. Second nite i'm usually good-to-go unless it is something else new (early garbage truck, different type of dog, etc). Like camping i sleep zero the first nite. I'll bring ear-plugs, crank the noise-maker on my phone (unless we're far from the kid), but i usually hear new stuff nite 1 regardless.

 

[bluetoe]

In the past i've been hooked for weeks on ear-plugs, noisemakers, sleep masks and probably things i've forgotten.

I had a nasty head-cold for a week and got hooked on breath-right strips. My cold was gone, my nose was fine, but after tossing and turning for an hr, i'd get outta bed to apply a strip and be good to go. It only lasted a few nites or a week.

Right now i'm hooked on 2.5 pages of fiction. My brain won't turn off without a few pages of some book which takes me a yr to finish. It's all psychological, cuz I can nap with nothing but some peace and quiet.

some here have suggested reading my posts. I have been suggesting that for years now with little indication that my suggestion has been acted on, until the topic of getting to sleep came up. I'm not sure what to make of this.