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Love need to step up

The real problem is still the roster make up.. there’s no PG .. the RJ / Love experiment is never going to get any better.. saw an espn mock draft no heels in either round .. I agree with the experience this team has, they should be better than what they are showing. They need to decide to buy in as a team to turn this around and commit on the defensive end. Offensively they are always going to live and die by the jump shot which is not ideal but nobody is athletic enough to drive and get to hoop other than leaky and maybe Trimble
 
BS .. Davis and Love both suck as guards running this group because they are both me first players. Davis and Love to date have taken 27 more 3pt shots than the entire team and they are shooting less than 30% combined .. wanna splain that lucy ? And Bacot's no better because he's a black hole too that has absolutely zero inside or outside game .. hell, he's lucky to draw iron with any over the shoulder shot more than 5 ft. from the rim and has yet to figure out he can't dribble the ball successfully.

I said it last year about this time and saying it again. This is a coaching problem where roles are not defined and there is absolutely ZERO TEAM BALL. Leaky needs to put some fingers in some chest and get this cluster flop together because there is a serious lack of leadership from the top down.
Mr. Zero Oints Leaky can’t put fingers in anyones chest. The answer is to let Love lead the way
 
Saw this post on another site. Can it be true?

“In his last game, Caleb went over 1,000 career field goal attempts, and now stands at 1,001.

His career field goal percentage is .358.

Ever since Carolina began tracking individual FG percentage (1948-49), only one Carolina player has a lower FG% with over 1,000 career field goal attempts: Vince Grimaldi, former PG who graduated in 1953. He had a career FG percentage of .336, but that was back when most players shot below .400.”

I looked up Love‘s career stats at UNC.

MPG 32.1
FGA/G 13.2
FGM/G 4.7
2FG% 35.8%
3FG%. 31.9%
APG. 3.5
TO/G 2.8

I don’t see how any GM would be seriously considering drafting this guy before the 3rd round. He hasn’t shown the ability to consistently do anything except launch a lot of shots. Hubert should tell him that they want to see him show the ability to lead a team and get his teammates involved. He is my least favorite UNC player on this team. Just a selfish player.
 
Saw this post on another site. Can it be true?

“In his last game, Caleb went over 1,000 career field goal attempts, and now stands at 1,001.

His career field goal percentage is .358.

Ever since Carolina began tracking individual FG percentage (1948-49), only one Carolina player has a lower FG% with over 1,000 career field goal attempts: Vince Grimaldi, former PG who graduated in 1953. He had a career FG percentage of .336, but that was back when most players shot below .400.”

I looked up Love‘s career stats at UNC.

MPG 32.1
FGA/G 13.2
FGM/G 4.7
2FG% 35.8%
3FG%. 31.9%
APG. 3.5
TO/G 2.8

I don’t see how any GM would be seriously considering drafting this guy before the 3rd round. He hasn’t shown the ability to consistently do anything except launch a lot of shots. Hubert should tell him that they want to see him show the ability to lead a team and get his teammates involved. He is my least favorite UNC player on this team. Just a selfish play
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Terrible numbers just fire him….too many shots for a PG
I think the scary thing for Caleb Love is he's actually shooting a flukishly high 2pt percentage right now. He's a 51% 2-point shooter when he came into the season shooting 37% from 2pt over a 2-year span of almost 500 2-point FGA. So we will likely see some significant regression in that department. Or, he may just be a bum slayer.

Vs mid-majors Caleb:
34-72 FG (47.2%) / 26-41 2pt FG (63.4%) / 8-31 3pt FG (25.8%) / 56.9% TS%

Vs high-majors Caleb:
22-66 FG (33.3%) / 16-41 2pt FG (39%) / 6-25 3pt FG (24%) / 41.6% TS%

RJ, there's at least hope in some progression to the mean. He at least shot 32% and 36% from 3pt his first two seasons. So you would be fair to expect some progression from his current 29% 3pt percentage. With Caleb, I'm not sure as sure since he's proven more than capable of being basically the most inefficient guard in the country.

But look, this is what we're stuck with. Whatever the combination you want. If you want more Caleb with the ball in his hands. If you want less Caleb with the ball in his hands (which means probably more RJ shots), here's the reality... Caleb and RJ are the only 2 players on this team who can create offense for themselves most consistently. We just need them to make shots or get to the free throw line at a higher rate.

We're an extremely flawed team. And we depend on two flawed guards who can potentially play a high level of basketball. Hopefully they play well when it counts.
 
I think the scary thing for Caleb Love is he's actually shooting a flukishly high 2pt percentage right now. He's a 51% 2-point shooter when he came into the season shooting 37% from 2pt over a 2-year span of almost 500 2-point FGA. So we will likely see some significant regression in that department. Or, he may just be a bum slayer.

Vs mid-majors Caleb:
34-72 FG (47.2%) / 26-41 2pt FG (63.4%) / 8-31 3pt FG (25.8%) / 56.9% TS%

Vs high-majors Caleb:
22-66 FG (33.3%) / 16-41 2pt FG (39%) / 6-25 3pt FG (24%) / 41.6% TS%

RJ, there's at least hope in some progression to the mean. He at least shot 32% and 36% from 3pt his first two seasons. So you would be fair to expect some progression from his current 29% 3pt percentage. With Caleb, I'm not sure as sure since he's proven more than capable of being basically the most inefficient guard in the country.

But look, this is what we're stuck with. Whatever the combination you want. If you want more Caleb with the ball in his hands. If you want less Caleb with the ball in his hands (which means probably more RJ shots), here's the reality... Caleb and RJ are the only 2 players on this team who can create offense for themselves most consistently. We just need them to make shots or get to the free throw line at a higher rate.

We're an extremely flawed team. And we depend on two flawed guards who can potentially play a high level of basketball. Hopefully they play well when it counts.
But if you would just believe in Love and embrace Love….we will will the whole thing….bank on it!
 
I think the scary thing for Caleb Love is he's actually shooting a flukishly high 2pt percentage right now. He's a 51% 2-point shooter when he came into the season shooting 37% from 2pt over a 2-year span of almost 500 2-point FGA. So we will likely see some significant regression in that department. Or, he may just be a bum slayer.

Vs mid-majors Caleb:
34-72 FG (47.2%) / 26-41 2pt FG (63.4%) / 8-31 3pt FG (25.8%) / 56.9% TS%

Vs high-majors Caleb:
22-66 FG (33.3%) / 16-41 2pt FG (39%) / 6-25 3pt FG (24%) / 41.6% TS%

RJ, there's at least hope in some progression to the mean. He at least shot 32% and 36% from 3pt his first two seasons. So you would be fair to expect some progression from his current 29% 3pt percentage. With Caleb, I'm not sure as sure since he's proven more than capable of being basically the most inefficient guard in the country.

But look, this is what we're stuck with. Whatever the combination you want. If you want more Caleb with the ball in his hands. If you want less Caleb with the ball in his hands (which means probably more RJ shots), here's the reality... Caleb and RJ are the only 2 players on this team who can create offense for themselves most consistently. We just need them to make shots or get to the free throw line at a higher rate.

We're an extremely flawed team. And we depend on two flawed guards who can potentially play a high level of basketball. Hopefully they play well when it counts.
Is it flukishly high, or has he became a little or much stronger, it was the area he focused on off season as he was pushed to poor angle bank attempts. He is using a float more in the paint straight on, and getting to the rim a bit further on an angle. He does have a different approach to 2 point attempts, we will see if the improved % on those are a result of, or flukish. His free throw percentage has dipped too, but small sample, that usually evens out.

Conversely are both of their 3 point % freakishly low? Caleb 36% down to 25% is nearly as big a drop as his "freakishly" big increase in 2 point %. Seems a bit of a cherry pick to mention one and not the other. RJ down from 37 to 29%.

It is an extremely small sample size for this season, each were among the very best in the country at catch and shoot 3's last year. I contend if the handling of over extended ball pressure is accomplished the 3 point looks are better with kick outs, and the 3 ponit percentage rising is more apt to happen with cleaner catch and shoots.
 
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Is it flukishly high, or has he became a little or much stronger, it was the area he focused on off season as he was pushed to poor angle bank attempts. He is using a float more in the paint straight on, and getting to the rim a bit further on an angle. He does have a different approach to 2 point attempts, we will see if the improved % on those are a result of, or flukish. His free throw percentage has dipped too, but small sample, that usually evens out.

Conversely are both of their 3 point % freakishly low? Caleb 36% down to 25% is nearly as big a drop as his "freakishly" big increase in 2 point %. Seems a bit of a cherry pick to mention one and not the other. RJ down from 37 to 29%.

It is an extremely small sample size for this season, each were among the very best in the country at catch and shoot 3's last year. I contend if the handling of over extended ball pressure is accomplished the 3 point looks are better with kick outs, and the 3 ponit percentage rising is more apt to happen with cleaner catch and shoots.
I guess we’ll see. Caleb’s a polarizing player and I’m sure I have a bias built in already. Plus, I generally don’t buy meteoric improvements. Hell, I’m skeptical Caleb’s 37% 3pt shooting last year is sustainable. Which is a bit unfair to him, I’ll admit.

I’d be stunned if his 2pt shooting continues at this pace. As much as he focused on getting better around the rim, I’m sure opposing players worked really hard on their games too. That’s something I think gets overplayed. I think most guys work pretty hard to refine their craft. But that’s just me. And even though Caleb is really struggling from 3, I don’t doubt that he’s putting in work from 3. I just doubt he’s a good enough consistent volume 3pt shooter.

Also, Caleb has shown as a freshman he can shoot 25% from 3. Again, maybe unfair but that’s part of his track record. RJ’s never shot below 32% here, so I’m more confident that his numbers will progress. I think Caleb’s will too. But I have doubt since he’s shown being a terrible percentage shooter before. I disagree it’s a cherry pick. I’m just basing it off history and some drastic splits this season (although small sample size).

My overall season number predictions for Caleb if it matters.

39% FG, 31% 3pt, 82% FT
 
I guess we’ll see. Caleb’s a polarizing player and I’m sure I have a bias built in already. Plus, I generally don’t buy meteoric improvements. Hell, I’m skeptical Caleb’s 37% 3pt shooting last year is sustainable. Which is a bit unfair to him, I’ll admit.

I’d be stunned if his 2pt shooting continues at this pace. As much as he focused on getting better around the rim, I’m sure opposing players worked really hard on their games too. That’s something I think gets overplayed. I think most guys work pretty hard to refine their craft. But that’s just me. And even though Caleb is really struggling from 3, I don’t doubt that he’s putting in work from 3. I just doubt he’s a good enough consistent volume 3pt shooter.

Also, Caleb has shown as a freshman he can shoot 25% from 3. Again, maybe unfair but that’s part of his track record. RJ’s never shot below 32% here, so I’m more confident that his numbers will progress. I think Caleb’s will too. But I have doubt since he’s shown being a terrible percentage shooter before. I disagree it’s a cherry pick. I’m just basing it off history and some drastic splits this season (although small sample size).

My overall season number predictions for Caleb if it matters.

39% FG, 31% 3pt, 82% FT
Could be, I think we can agree neither are pure point guards and as freshmen they had no clue how to get others shots, the amount of bail out 3's as shot clocks ran low were huge. I would guess that is more the anomaly then last seasons numbers. Quality of 3 looks as always matters.

Everyone works in the off season, true, with him the natural physical maturity with age helps with scoring in the paint, being able to get all the way to the rim, he was often bodied away from the bucket leaving tough angles moving diagonally on his release almost always as a freshman, and a bit less but still often last season.

A focused off season to develop a float game when not able to get all the way to the rim is a tactical change as well. Floters are not easy, maybe his % on them does drop, but they are a shot moving forward on the release, much better % shot then angled runners, and he certainly has been utilizing them more.
 
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I have said this time and time before but Love is a high volume inefficient shooter that usually makes up for it slightly at the FT line. However his FT % has fallen off while his 2p % has improved this year, which leaves him in the same boat and not improved.

RJ usually is slightly efficient as a shooter, but he has been inefficient this season so far, though his FT shooting is improved so far too.

Leaky is efficient usually but such a low volume.
Bacot has taken Garrison Brooks level of regression so far. He seems out of shape. Nance also being the way he plays doesn't play into Bacots strengths like Manek did. Bacot also plays less minutes which accounts for his smaller numbers, but it doesn't account for his turnovers. His inefficiency in shooting is because he doesn't get as many offense rebounds to put back nor does he get that big to big pass from Manek anymore for an easy score.

Nance is okay at times, but the problem is he is a 5 like Bacot. Nance should be a 5 who draws out the 5 to open up driving lanes for the perimeter players. He isn't quick enough to do this at a 4, especially when most teams 4 is another wing forward and not a big man to draw outside.

Nance and Bacot on the floor together are redundancies, but they also are different types of 5s either. Bacot should be the big rebound machine inside to get misses, while Nance should be the drag the defender outside to allow easier drives for shots that don't need rebounds. They don't work together well. Our 4 needs to be able to screen though also. So it makes it a little hard for Nickle and Puff to fill this role. However the coaches should be alternating the 2 (which should make Bacot mad his minutes for halves to return and Nance mad he transferred here to backup so moral issues) and instructing the perimeter how to play differently when each is in the line up.
 
I have said this time and time before but Love is a high volume inefficient shooter that usually makes up for it slightly at the FT line. However his FT % has fallen off while his 2p % has improved this year, which leaves him in the same boat and not improved.

RJ usually is slightly efficient as a shooter, but he has been inefficient this season so far, though his FT shooting is improved so far too.

Leaky is efficient usually but such a low volume.
Bacot has taken Garrison Brooks level of regression so far. He seems out of shape. Nance also being the way he plays doesn't play into Bacots strengths like Manek did. Bacot also plays less minutes which accounts for his smaller numbers, but it doesn't account for his turnovers. His inefficiency in shooting is because he doesn't get as many offense rebounds to put back nor does he get that big to big pass from Manek anymore for an easy score.

Nance is okay at times, but the problem is he is a 5 like Bacot. Nance should be a 5 who draws out the 5 to open up driving lanes for the perimeter players. He isn't quick enough to do this at a 4, especially when most teams 4 is another wing forward and not a big man to draw outside.

Nance and Bacot on the floor together are redundancies, but they also are different types of 5s either. Bacot should be the big rebound machine inside to get misses, while Nance should be the drag the defender outside to allow easier drives for shots that don't need rebounds. They don't work together well. Our 4 needs to be able to screen though also. So it makes it a little hard for Nickle and Puff to fill this role. However the coaches should be alternating the 2 (which should make Bacot mad his minutes for halves to return and Nance mad he transferred here to backup so moral issues) and instructing the perimeter how to play differently when each is in the line up.
One issue is recruiting grad transfer and immediately putting them in the starting lineup. Manek didn’t start immediately so he sort of earned his. Nance just came in a jumped Styles and puff. I know they don’t like it….besides you are right…..Nance is a 5 and should come off the bench and backup Bacot. It’s unfair in a way to put them into the starting lineup because they were starters on their previous teams
 
One issue is recruiting grad transfer and immediately putting them in the starting lineup. Manek didn’t start immediately so he sort of earned his. Nance just came in a jumped Styles and puff. I know they don’t like it….besides you are right…..Nance is a 5 and should come off the bench and backup Bacot. It’s unfair in a way to put them into the starting lineup because they were starters on their previous teams
Nance wouldn't have came for that offer nor would Bacot have been on board with a clear swipe at his minutes, which eats into his NIL and awards runs and stuff.

It's why getting GG and him just reclassifying up was always our best option, and the Baylor kid was our second best option. Nance just didn't fit what our actual hole was exactly. People just saw "47% from 3" and assumed this was another Manek.
 
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