NBA Draft Withdrawals

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Today is the last day to withdraw and maintain college eligibility, I think.

CBS Sports has some listings. According to them neither Watkins nor Luis has withdrawn yet.

Cadeau is doubtless thrilled to learn that Yaxel Lendeborg has withdrawn and will attend Michigan - notwithstanding a good likelihood of being drafted in the first round. CBS says Michigan is paying him around $3 million.

A number of top schools - Florida, Houston and more - are getting good news about returning players.

Drake might move into the first round.

2025 NBA Draft withdrawal deadline: Top late decisions for players considering returning to college basketball

Tracking key decisions ahead of the Wednesday deadline to withdraw from the 2025 NBA Draft

www.cbssports.com

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

This link is a little older but mentions more players.

MSN

 

[Mrs.Jeans15]

I hope we have a plan.

 

[gthreadgill7929]

I would still hold out on Watkins before making a serious move on other Euro prospects

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I would still hold out on Watkins before making a serious move on other Euro prospects

He seems like a strong fit. Could shoot a bit better from deep, but I'd be very happy to get him.

Any indication we are going after him?

 

[gthreadgill7929]

He seems like a strong fit. Could shoot a bit better from deep, but I'd be very happy to get him.

Any indication we are going after him?

You know how all these national guys be. Unless they get a strong indication otherwise, their word seems law. 247 has seemed to indicate us as a player if he returns. I got nothing else, other than that. But it stands to reason we’re holding out on this deadline.

 

[Mrs.Jeans15]

I would still hold out on Watkins before making a serious move on other Euro prospects

Haven't seen much mentioned on him in the past 3 weeks.

 

[gteeitup]

would love watkins

 

[gthreadgill7929]

Welp, it may be time to panic lol

 

[Mrs.Jeans15]

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Welp, it may be time to panic lol

Lmao..yep.

 

[gteeitup]

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Welp, it may be time to panic lol

well, shit

 

[RoseHeel]

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Welp, it may be time to panic lol

Maybe if you're Hubert.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

RJ Luis (St John's) also staying in the draft.

I think that's all the "star power SFs" off the board.

Do we get a backup SF from the portal, one from overseas, or are we done at that position?

 

[CarolinaBlue5]

RJ Luis (St John's) also staying in the draft.

I think that's all the "star power SFs" off the board.

Do we get a backup SF from the portal, one from overseas, or are we done at that position?

He better get someone! Right now we have really zero “true” 3’s on this roster..I personally think Powell is more of a 2 that can play the 3 and Stevenson and Wilson are 4’s that can maybe play the 3 sparingly! I’m not even going to mention Trimble or Denis bc they aren’t 3’s and shouldn’t be asked to play the 3 but we all know how playing out of position went last year! We also have 11 scholarship players I think..correct me if I’m wrong! That leaves 4 open scholarships lol other teams aren’t having any trouble getting 13/14 scholarship players..why are we? Bc a lot of these kids don’t wanna play in Hubert’s system! He can’t blame it on NIL money this year bc we had a good amount! Top ten or so in college basketball! We needed an alpha bucket getter and he has failed to do that! Hopefully he surprises us but I doubt it…I think at the end of last year would have been a good time to move on from this coaching staff when we lost all of our quality returning players besides Trimble! We’re going have to go through another year of mediocre basketball before anything happens..with the way the portal is, you can rebuild quickly with a new coach. If they decide to keep it in the family it’s going to be the same thing over again! I do think Wes Miller would do better but not at the level UNC should be at!

 

[OldSchoo01]

Any 26 kids we're in on that might reclassify?

 

[UncTwinz]

RJ Luis (St John's) also staying in the draft.

I think that's all the "star power SFs" off the board.

Do we get a backup SF from the portal, one from overseas, or are we done at that position?

Luka Bogavac

He'd be a homerun and start on the wing.

 

[NorCalTarheel]

Feels like I've seen this movie before. Different actors in different positions but, I have definitely seen this before and it didn't end well

 

[KeeLo]

Big news here. Saw this on another site. Feel free to take down if it violates board rules.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Luka Bogavac

He'd be a homerun and start on the wing.

Seems good but in the few clips I saw he struck me more as a combo guard than SF.

Probably a good addition.

 

[gteeitup]

what is the holdup?…been out of the loop for a couple of weeks.

i just want to know either way if the staff is done adding.

 

[gthreadgill7929]

what is the holdup?…been out of the loop for a couple of weeks.

i just want to know either way if the staff is done adding.

It feels like we’re done but not content at the 3. I think we know we’d be okay playing that position by committee but it’s nowhere near ideal. Thus, the search for the wing continues until we just don’t think it’s worth filling. I do wonder if we monitor other avenues tho (ala, reclass).

I think we’re confident with what we have everywhere else and any other addition would be strictly for practice, spot, or development min.

 

[gthreadgill7929]

I really think Caleb Wilson needs to get ready to play some 3. I think the go would be:

1 KC/Dixon
2 Seth/Young/Dennis
3 J Pow/Wilson/Jarin
4 Wilson/Jarin/High
5 Veesaar/Brown

If you fill that position with a starter, that solves a lot of problems and essentially moves Wilson strictly at the 4 and Jarin to spot at the 3 but mainly a 4. If you decide to find a J Powell-like guy then you could add depth and at least another competitive piece to start.

My reservation is the depth at the 5 and 1 rn. The staff is apparently confident but I’m holding out until summer to see what Brown and Dixon bring before having real concerns.

 

[DSouthr]

I really think Caleb Wilson needs to get ready to play some 3. I think the go would be:

1 KC/Dixon
2 Seth/Young/Dennis
3 J Pow/Wilson/Jarin
4 Wilson/Jarin/High
5 Veesaar/Brown

If you fill that position with a starter, that solves a lot of problems and essentially moves Wilson strictly at the 4 and Jarin to spot at the 3 but mainly a 4. If you decide to find a J Powell-like guy then you could add depth and at least another competitive piece to start.

My reservation is the depth at the 5 and 1 rn. The staff is apparently confident but I’m holding out until summer to see what Brown and Dixon bring before having real concerns.

The only tweek I would make is that I think I would start Wilson at the 3 and start Jarin at the 4, with Veesaar at the 5. I think we are going to really like the combination of both Wilson and Jarin on the floor together. They should be able to switch seamlessly between the 3 & 4 but can as well switch with Veesar at the 5 defensively. I want to take advantage of Wilson's ability to facilitate from the 3, should be able to play over the top of most 3 defenders. When we see a zone I can just see now Wilson stepping to the middle in that soft spot with his ability to pass, put it on the floor and finish, or hitting the mid range jumper.

I am a bit inclined right now have Dixon backing up both Evans at the point and Seth at the 2 but I am definitely open to Young or Denis earning those minutes. I think I am higher on these 3 guys than most seem to be.

My concerns are how much High and James Brown can give us, I just don't think it is smart to rely on James right now as the primary back up for Veesaar. Have to realize, Veesaar is going to find foul trouble in some games, he is going to have to sit at times, I don't see him playing Bacot like minutes.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

My concerns are how much High and James Brown can give us, I just don't think it is smart to rely on James right now as the primary back up for Veesaar. Have to realize, Veesaar is going to find foul trouble in some games, he is going to have to sit at times, I don't see him playing Bacot like minutes.

What do you want to bet that opposing coaches will aim to get Veesaar into foul trouble early? Wouldn't you, in their shoes?

If Veesaar picks up 2 fouls in the first half, will Hubert sit him the way he did with Elliot?

We MAY be fine with Brown/High/Stevenson donating minutes in the post. But High is a mystery after taking a year off, Brown is promising, but probably not for another year, and Stevenson never looks comfortable inside on the tapes I've watched.

I see no indication that we are going after another big, do you? I sure hope that means the coaching staff knows something good about our current subs for Henri.

Here are the per-40 numbers for Veesaar and our current backup options in their last year. Make whatever mental adjustments you need for scrub minutes and whatever for High and Brown. I've also included Lubin for sake of comparison.

It might be worth mentioning that both Henri's and VAL's MPG numbers were higher at the end of the season, while Jarin's were lower.

Player	Starts	MPG	Points	Rebounds	Fouls
Henri	5	20.8	17.0	9.3	5.3
Zayden (2024)	0	4.5	7.0	10.1	8.9
James	0	2.9	15.8	11.3	7.5
Jarin	22	18.7	11.6	7.3	4.7
VAL	20	19.6	17.8	11.2	4.3

 

[BL1987]

I really think Caleb Wilson needs to get ready to play some 3. I think the go would be:

1 KC/Dixon
2 Seth/Young/Dennis
3 J Pow/Wilson/Jarin
4 Wilson/Jarin/High
5 Veesaar/Brown

If you fill that position with a starter, that solves a lot of problems and essentially moves Wilson strictly at the 4 and Jarin to spot at the 3 but mainly a 4. If you decide to find a J Powell-like guy then you could add depth and at least another competitive piece to start.

My reservation is the depth at the 5 and 1 rn. The staff is apparently confident but I’m holding out until summer to see what Brown and Dixon bring before having real concerns.

This playing guys out of their natural position stuff is starting to seem really familiar... the depth chart at SF consists of two PF'S and a shooting guard. Interesting.

 

[gthreadgill7929]

This playing guys out of their natural position stuff is starting to seem really familiar... the depth chart at SF consists of two PF'S and a shooting guard. Interesting.

I’m not suggesting this is what they should do, but by putting 2 & 2 together; it certainly seems this is the route they’ll have to take with what they got rn. I do agree tho, this shouldn’t be our objective.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

This playing guys out of their natural position stuff is starting to seem really familiar... the depth chart at SF consists of two PF'S and a shooting guard. Interesting.

I agree with the desire to minimize playing kids out of position.

OTOH . . .

1. Some folks think Wilson's likely position in the NBA is as SF. So maybe starting him at SF makes sense, and isn't out of position.

2. If you have plenty of talent but don't have starting talent at all positions, are you better off getting your best talent on the floor, even if that means playing kids out of position? That seemed to be the approach most of last season. We saw a lot of playing out of position in an effort to have our best talent in the game. If it had worked better, we might be praising it.

 

[BL1987]

I agree with the desire to minimize playing kids out of position.

OTOH . . .

1. Some folks think Wilson's likely position in the NBA is as SF. So maybe starting him at SF makes sense, and isn't out of position.

2. If you have plenty of talent but don't have starting talent at all positions, are you better off getting your best talent on the floor, even if that means playing kids out of position? That seemed to be the approach most of last season. We saw a lot of playing out of position in an effort to have our best talent in the game. If it had worked better, we might be praising it.

I think the point is that it doesn't work. Especially for a freshman who is going to be playing high level d-1 basketball for the first time. If it doesn't work out and he underperforms it will be yet another black eye for HD.

 

[ChapelHeeled]

I think the point is that it doesn't work. Especially for a freshman who is going to be playing high level d-1 basketball for the first time. If it doesn't work out and he underperforms it will be yet another black eye for HD.

So then, who really is looking at this from your point of view anyway...? Play our best five. Somehow...