NIL ended the Blue Bloods

[Old_School59]

I don’t know maybe it’s just me, but after the introduction of the NIL, along with the transfer portal, it seems that the blue bloods, even including Carolinas miraculous run to the final four last year, are not doing that well. I seem to see a coincidence. I said that NIL Money was going to kill college basketball as we knew it. So far this year, it looks like I’m right. Any thoughts?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

You are reading my mind. I just posted this on another thread.

I've been wondering if that isn't our problem. NIL, I mean. Has NIL turned the sport these guys love into nothing more than a job? Because, let's face it, for most people if what they're doing is just a job, they are going to be phoning it in a lot more than if they love what they are doing.

We used to have the occasional problem of "I'm not doing it for the team, I'm doing it to get to the NBA." That problem hasn't gone away. But do we now also have the problem of "I'm not doing it for the team, I'm doing it for the NIL"?

The other NIL question I've wondered about is how much time do the players put into their NIL obligations? I mean I assume there are some obligations. Events, schmoozing, whatever. Between that, school, and getting laid, how much effort is going into being as good as they can at basketball? And if they are spending more time on those things, are they bonding less as a team?

Are other teams having the same problems? At a glance, it doesn't look like it. But I don't know.

 

[Quest4Seven]

Has nothing to do with NIL lol

Good coaches figured out how to beat teams with more athleticism or talent than them. For UVa it was slowing the game down and playing packline. For Houston it was getting more physically imposing players. For Arizona and Gonzaga it was looking overseas. Most college basketball games are won simply by having better shot selection and less turnovers. The 3 point shot and positionless basketball evened the playing field. Teams like UNC, Dook and Kentucky are struggling because they have recruiters pretending to be coaches. It shouldnt be a surprise that legit tacticians like Kelvin Sampson, Nate Oats, and Eric Musselman have been able to compete against the blue bloods, theyre much better coaches

 

[TarHeelFanWV]

Kansas and UCLA still doing fine despite NIL. Kentucky, Duke, and UNC all doing bad because of poor coaching.

 

[RoseHeel]

Some of you will say anything to excuse the obvious elephant in the room.

 

[plm]

Kansas and UCLA still doing fine despite NIL. Kentucky, Duke, and UNC all doing bad because of poor coaching.

It’s learning curve and they have been doing it for years……it’s a joke but some truth there with Kansas/bill self

 

[Old_School59]

So the NIL hasn’t affected the game? The Portal hasn’t affected the game? Im not a coach, nor do I know any. However what my eyes see is a difference. Maybe my eyes are just old….😉

 

[midline]

I think the portal has more to do with it than anything. Because of it many players don’t have to wait their turn, and develop over that time, as they have historically. They don’t feel they are getting enough playing time, or touches, they just leave.

As far as the NIL, it certainly has changed recruiting. But I think this is short lived. In fact I think all of these collectives that the fan bases are being pressured to contribute to will begin to fall apart within a couple of years. Folks are already paying outrageous prices for the right to buy ticket, the tickets themselves, parking, etc. Now they want the fan bases to fund recruiting. Sounds great on its face. But when the contributed money doesn’t get a team any closer to the success they are hoping for the fans will not be as eager to contribute and take the attitude to let the university use TV money for those purposes. Everybody can’t win. This alone will kill this model after a while

 

[kevindow]

Good, solid teaching and coaching with 3-4* players will usually beat less adept teaching and coaching of 5* players. So no matter what, excellent coaches matter and are priceless. Elephant.

As for NIL, there should be and will undoubtedly be a player and/or team cap, with no dark money permitted.

As for the portal, looks like the NCAA recognizes they have created a wild, wild west environment, as they are trying to tighten the rules:

NCAA Transfer Rule Changes

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

So the NIL hasn’t affected the game? The Portal hasn’t affected the game? Im not a coach, nor do I know any. However what my eyes see is a difference. Maybe my eyes are just old….😉

Definitely changed the game, but not sure about ending the Blue Bloods

 

[acc hoops]

Kansas and UCLA still doing fine despite NIL. Kentucky, Duke, and UNC all doing bad because of poor coaching.

Poor coaching at Duke? Their team when healthy was 17-1 prior to NCAAs. They matured and developed during the year. I believe UNC would have done the same thing if Davis had played his bench. Those bench guys would have had some road bumps but by the end of the year UNC would have easily made the tournament. 10 to 15 bench points and starters playing 30-32 minutes instead of 35-38 would have made a huge difference. That was poor coaching.

 

[NCAAUCoach]

I don't think it's NIL, I think it's the mentality of one and done. Experienced teams can beat more talented teams who are together or are drastically different year to year.

 

[DSouthr]

If anything the NIL and portal stuff has made the blue bloods stronger because they can now go get a kid that is proven in the college game rather than have to rely as much on hoping a high rated incoming freshman can lead you. The extra covid year has been a game changer in that many of the smaller programs that blue bloods used to drill have become extremely experienced. Senior dominated teams are hard to beat if they have had the same coaching and run the same schemes for 4 and 5yrs now.

 

[gauchoheel]

If anything the NIL and portal stuff has made the blue bloods stronger because they can now go get a kid that is proven in the college game rather than have to rely as much on hoping a high rated incoming freshman can lead you. The extra covid year has been a game changer in that many of the smaller programs that blue bloods used to drill have become extremely experienced. Senior dominated teams are hard to beat if they have had the same coaching and run the same schemes for 4 and 5yrs now.

Yeah I think the NIL/portal helps the blue bloods, not hurts. Assembling talent in college sports is about money, and has been for a long time. These changes just make the market for talent more liquid, which should help talent more easily flow to the top teams.

Whereas before a top player might stay at a random school just to avoid sitting out a year, now they can move to a blue blood once they're ready. The mid-majors have become our farm system.

 

[DaveChapelle]

I don’t know maybe it’s just me, but after the introduction of the NIL, along with the transfer portal, it seems that the blue bloods, even including Carolinas miraculous run to the final four last year, are not doing that well. I seem to see a coincidence. I said that NIL Money was going to kill college basketball as we knew it. So far this year, it looks like I’m right. Any thoughts?

I take it you are very young and aren't aware many Blue Bloods were buying players long before NIL existed? UCLA with Sam Gilbert, UK actually got caught and punished in the 80s and continued buying players under Calipari, the FBI investigation exposed Kansas and dook...

 

[FlaTarHeel]

I take it you are very young and aren't aware many Blue Bloods were buying players long before NIL existed? UCLA with Sam Gilbert, UK actually got caught and punished in the 80s and continued buying players under Calipari, the FBI investigation exposed Kansas and dook...

And the NCAA looked the other way long enough that no one even talks about it any more.

 

[DaveChapelle]

And the NCAA looked the other way long enough that no one even talks about it any more.

Oh don't worry, we haven't forgotten. We know about the house in Colvard Farms, we know about the bidding wars. The NCAA can suck it.

 

[FlaTarHeel]

Oh don't worry, we haven't forgotten. We know about the house in Colvard Farms, we know about the bidding wars. The NCAA can suck it.

It just pisses me off kay can get away with that considering the #1 law enforcement on the planet exposed his dirty a$$.
Yet the media will continue to kiss his butt through eternity.

 

[al would]

I don’t know maybe it’s just me, but after the introduction of the NIL, along with the transfer portal, it seems that the blue bloods, even including Carolinas miraculous run to the final four last year, are not doing that well. I seem to see a coincidence. I said that NIL Money was going to kill college basketball as we knew it. So far this year, it looks like I’m right. Any thoughts?

I posted a similar thread months ago. The DMF NCAA has done their best with terrible policies and even worse officiating to make amateur college athletics in to a glorified G league and damn near a poorly run mini gambling syndicate. My last refuge in this politically correct insanity was non NIL, no portal college athletics and over the last couple years the NCAA has managed to do what those morons at AB did with their dumb fng BUD LIGHT celebration of a tranny stupid ish overnight. This is no longer my America and this is no longer my idea of college athletics. I find no value in constant confusion and lack of loyalty in anything.

 

[UNC-75]

College BB is just not the same. Blue bloods or not. Game has taken a turn for the worse. I think Roy got out just in time.

 

[Archer2]

College BB is just not the same. Blue bloods or not. Game has taken a turn for the worse. I think Roy got out just in time.

Amen. Time for this ol’ cowboy to ride off into the sunset himself. College sports is now professional, call it the C-League. Like Roy, Wright, and Krazywhiskey, I can’t stomach it anymore.