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No ACC Title Game in Charlotte.. it's been pulled.

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Over here in the far west of North Carolina...that law might as well be on another planet in terms of actual effect.
 
This years game will be a complete mess if they are starting this year. Three months to plan something like this is not enough time to make things go smooth.
 
An unenforceable law that 70% of states residents disapprove of that has cost us hundreds of millions in lost revenue


Yea i'd say its safe to officially proclaim it a disaster
 
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Maybe it's time UNC left the ACC? Would the SEC take us? We could probably schedule some rivalries like duke for basketball anyway.
 
Orlando making a play for it...
They are going to have to do some rescheduling to make that happen. The high school championship games are scheduled to be played on that day. Either they have to renege on the high school contract or move the date of the ACC game.
 
It will probably be overturned. Election is this fall, what if the new appointees overturn it?Can they overturn it in a special session or do they have to wait til January or something?

PGA is deciding soon.
 
As a life-long LSU/SEC fan I would absolutely love to have UNC as part of our conference.

Thanks. Seems like a win/win to me. But my guess is we'd be in the East if for no other reason than to play Kentucky in basketball and be closer to the other teams in the division geographically.
 
I live in Charlotte, and had every intention of going to the game whether UNC was in the hunt or not. This is tragic. **** this legislature, and all that this law does (that includes setting a minimum wage that may be fine in some parts of the state but sure as hell isn't going to cut it here in Charlotte), I'll never understand how progress can be characterized as a bad thing.
 
We live in a cluster%^&* of an age.
now who was it that said anyone who doesn't think swofford is wonderful is a fool?
or something to that effect.
This is not something a commissioner does alone, nor even by leading. This is the kind of thing that comes from university Presidents and Chancellors.
 
Jesus Christ do you guys hear yourselves? One guy talking about Dems lead to this but the legislature that passed the bill is dominated by repubs. This bill is a power grab by a fringe group in control of the NC legislature. The bathroom thing is a red herring to whip up support by individuals that are easily manipulated. This law was a direct result of Charlotte passing a anti-discrimination law when the state would not enact non discrimination laws against LBGT community. So, its is about.
a) bathrooms for transgender people
b) State anti-discrimination laws , regarding gender, race and religion. HB2 snippets forces workers seeking redress for discrimination into the federal system instead of starting in the state system.
c) counties and cities can't pass their own laws involving protection of laws of LGBT
d) counties and cities can't have their own minimum wage

Personally, I can care less about what an individual does in the privacy of their own bedroom and personal decisions as well. That goes for abortion, etc. Nobodies business except for the man, woman and who they pray to... if they pray. And even then it isn't my business. The larger issue of this bill is the effort to curtail local municipality's power. The bill is clearly unconstitutional and if America is going to state " the land of the free and home of the brave with Liberty and justice for all" then we sure need to apply it equally in life.
 
After a full review with my state senator, there are a great many people that have no idea what was in the bill, that never read it and have no understanding of "how" the bill was passed and then off to govs desk for signature. Read up on Tom Apodoca's role in the matter. Damn scary what the repubs are doing in Raleigh. They've been away from the trough so long they have forgotten how to feed.

'94's post is very much on point.
The repubs have tried to grab our local city council elections by creating districts (they are doing it in other municipalities across the state), they have tried to steal our water and gerrymandered one quarter of folks in Buncombe into the same Congressional district as Gastonia/Charlotte, as well as grabbing control of our University.
 
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After a full review with my state senator, there are a great many people that have no idea what was in the bill, that never read it and have no understanding of "how" the bill was passed and then off to govs desk for signature. Read up on Tom Apodoca's role in the matter. Damn scary what the repubs are doing in Raleigh. They've been away from the trough so long they have forgotten how to feed.

'94's post is very much on point.
The repubs have tried to grab our local city council elections by creating districts (they are doing it in other municipalities across the state), they have tried to steal our water and gerrymandered one quarter of folks in Buncombe into the same Congressional district as Gastonia/Charlotte, as well as grabbing control of our University.

People need to get away from labels and just research the stuff on their own in order to get the truth.
 
Maybe it's time UNC left the ACC? Would the SEC take us? We could probably schedule some rivalries like duke for basketball anyway.

You also know the NCAA has pulled championship games out of NC as well for the same reasons? The NBA yanked the all star game too.

Point being, it isn't conference specific, but I agree that it's idiotic. The way its coming down is political instead of principled. If Carolina is such a rotten place necessitating championship games not be played there, why is it OK for all the other games?

The ACC and NCAA sanction hundreds if not thousands of intercollegiate sporting contests in Carolina, but it's perfectly OK to allow and recognize them. Why ban just the Championships? If the reasoning is valid...why not ban all? College athletics shouldn't be political, and that's exactly what this is.
 
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Two points if I may
1. Wish the SEC would add N.C. and N.C. State to the SECE and move Mizzou to the SECW.
2.Transgender as a % of U.S. population is less than 1/3 of 1%.
Don't believe a personal choice entitles anyone to special treatment. Use the bathroom appropriate to your birth gender and this becomes a non-issue.
 
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a buddy of mine's boss underwent tranny surgery. he was gone for an extended leave, came back as a she with an adams apple and a funny voice, made an announcement at work explaining the where/what/why and started using the women's bathrooms. And guess what, the doors on every toilet in every stall in that women's bathroom remained up and in place, toilets even kept working and flushing without a prob.
 
Jesus Christ do you guys hear yourselves? One guy talking about Dems lead to this but the legislature that passed the bill is dominated by repubs. This bill is a power grab by a fringe group in control of the NC legislature. The bathroom thing is a red herring to whip up support by individuals that are easily manipulated. This law was a direct result of Charlotte passing a anti-discrimination law when the state would not enact non discrimination laws against LBGT community. So, its is about.
a) bathrooms for transgender people
b) State anti-discrimination laws , regarding gender, race and religion. HB2 snippets forces workers seeking redress for discrimination into the federal system instead of starting in the state system.
c) counties and cities can't pass their own laws involving protection of laws of LGBT
d) counties and cities can't have their own minimum wage

Personally, I can care less about what an individual does in the privacy of their own bedroom and personal decisions as well. That goes for abortion, etc. Nobodies business except for the man, woman and who they pray to... if they pray. And even then it isn't my business. The larger issue of this bill is the effort to curtail local municipality's power. The bill is clearly unconstitutional and if America is going to state " the land of the free and home of the brave with Liberty and justice for all" then we sure need to apply it equally in life.

Doesn't matter. The ACC should not be in the business of making these sorts of judgements and injecting politics into sports.
I think the legislature and governor ought to look into ways of firing all the university presidents and administrators that pushed this. Guess that would just apply to UNC and State, and then take a look at the overall board for the UNC system.
 
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Two points if I may
1. Wish the SEC would add N.C. and N.C. State to the SECE and move Mizzou to the SECW.
2.Transgender as a % of U.S. population is less than 1/3 of 1%.
Don't believe a personal choice entitles anyone to special treatment. Use the bathroom appropriate to your birth gender and this becomes a non-issue.

I think they'd go after Virginia or VA Tech first to expand their TV market. They just need one NC team. State would likely be left out.
 
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