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In a long-anticipated ruling, the NCAA on Friday said it "could not conclude that the University of North Carolina violated NCAA academic rules" in years of paper classes. The NCAA found, as UNC has argued, that the classes benefitted all students, not primarily student-athletes.
The NCAA, which had issued five allegations against UNC, ultimately found only two violations – a lack of cooperation from Julius Nyang’oro, the long-time chairman of the Department of African and Afro-American Studies, and his assistant, Deborah Crowder.
The NCAA, which had issued five allegations against UNC, ultimately found only two violations – a lack of cooperation from Julius Nyang’oro, the long-time chairman of the Department of African and Afro-American Studies, and his assistant, Deborah Crowder.
Wait, is this what I think it is? Because this seems to say time for us to finally have this over and we have been vindicated?
And there it is. Nothing there, never was. I had a slight hope that once Sankey was rebuked for another term we were gonna be ok --- looks like that was the case.
Oh, and to the trolls here? SUCK IT!
Guess this means Dan Kane isn't getting a Pulitzer.
Fantastic news! Now the team can get to back to business of defending their 2017 NCAA Championship.
Go Heels!
Go Heels!
Wow, went by crackride, if I read correctly page count was at 152 and got locked.
But they emphasize we are "cheaters" none the less. I think that qualifies them for the John Goodman lack of journalistic Integrity award and the bass trophy outright.
But they emphasize we are "cheaters" none the less. I think that qualifies them for the John Goodman lack of journalistic Integrity award and the bass trophy outright.
That's just one of the threads. They've had several threads that have been locked over the years. I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say that they have had at least 2,000 pages worth of threads about it over the past few years.
What a recruiting tool for Late Night. A huge celebration just got bigger!
Mr. Moore, come on down, Mr. Shittu, we got a place for you too!
How Sweet it is!!
I knew this was the correct outcome, but did not dare to think that the NCAA might suddenly act logically after all these years. I am so pleased to be surprised.
KUDOS and a Major THANK YOU to Walter Byerz!
I feel most for Roy and the other coaches, and all the players who have been under this cloud for so many years. And what did they do? Continue to perform at the highest level on a regular basis! Last 2 years have been particularly amazing.
My heartfelt congratulations to Roy Williams and Staff, all the players, The University, and everyone else who was involved.
I knew this was the correct outcome, but did not dare to think that the NCAA might suddenly act logically after all these years. I am so pleased to be surprised.
KUDOS and a Major THANK YOU to Walter Byerz!
I feel most for Roy and the other coaches, and all the players who have been under this cloud for so many years. And what did they do? Continue to perform at the highest level on a regular basis! Last 2 years have been particularly amazing.
My heartfelt congratulations to Roy Williams and Staff, all the players, The University, and everyone else who was involved.
Honestly, I felt this was going to be the final out come but until the steering scandal broke, I think the NCAA was prepared to hammer us and see how willing we would be to actually take this to court. But this NCAA scandal IMO forces the NCAA to kind of clear the decks for much bigger issues that are in process of coming their way.
This was the rational thing for the NCAA to do because the last thing they could stand would be for the courts to vindicate us with this steering mess on their hands.
Ya know what, the Dean Dome should be extra ROCKIN TONIGHT, not just for the start of basketball but our VINDICATION as well !!!
I could not agree more.
2016 ACC Regular Season Champion
2016 ACC Tournament Champion
2016 NCAA Title Game
2017 ACC Regular Season Champion
2017 NCAA Tournament Champion.
Well done, Roy!
I was walkin' down the street on a sunny day
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A feeling in my bones that I'll have my way
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Well I'm a happy boy (happy boy)
Well I'm a happy boy (happy boy)
Oh ain't it good when things are going your way, hey hey
My pet wolf got hit by a car (in Raw-lee)
Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba
Put his guts in a box and put him in a drawer
Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba
Well I'm a happy boy (happy boy)
Well I'm a happy boy (happy boy)
I was afraid for 7 years and a half
Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba
Today I looked in the drawer and started to laugh
Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba
Well I'm a happy boy (happy boy)
Well I'm a happy boy (happy boy)
Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba
A feeling in my bones that I'll have my way
Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba
Well I'm a happy boy (happy boy)
Well I'm a happy boy (happy boy)
Oh ain't it good when things are going your way, hey hey
My pet wolf got hit by a car (in Raw-lee)
Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba
Put his guts in a box and put him in a drawer
Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba
Well I'm a happy boy (happy boy)
Well I'm a happy boy (happy boy)
I was afraid for 7 years and a half
Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba
Today I looked in the drawer and started to laugh
Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba
Well I'm a happy boy (happy boy)
Well I'm a happy boy (happy boy)
Just took a look at their board. Given the fact that this whole thing has been about academics this is possibly the greatest post of all time.
MattNicholson
Speakless. Just....speakless
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Yup,, in the end Roy told Nassir little the truth last week, that UNC won't get punished because we didnt do anything wrong. But Roy also ended up being wrong (in a very very very good way) that this NCAA investigation will most likely go on another 30 years (atleast I remember seeing that he said that to some recruits that were being told by opposing coaches that UNC will be banned from the NCAA tournament the following year).
So question...is this officially over? The NCAA is dropping it completely? Looks like this was gonna be the ruling become Sankey got involved. But then once Sankey was onboard, he changed the goal posts and added UNC men's basketball back into the NOI. Looks like Sankey got checked big time because if it was up to him, we would have been nailed to the wall. I have a feeling there's a reason why UNC received ZERO violations (which is exactly correct, UNC didnt violate ANYTHING). But my hunch is that Emmert and Sankey know something, and that something is that their loved 'teams/conference' are about to get hammered by the FEDS. And if they gave UNC the death penalty, then they would have to literally give much worse punishments to the corrupt schools being indicted by the FEDS, and I have a hunch emmert knows LSU and Sankey know Kentucky are going to be clipped...
Obviously that's just my hunch, no sources, no nothing...just straight up gossip, at the moment...
But que all the haters that are gonna say UNC got away with it. Let me tell you something, the NCAA wanted to hang UNC. They just found nothing but they knew this already for years but kept it going knowing it was destroying UNCs ability to recruit at a high level, well that and all the illegal paying of recruits going on at other schools. But the NCAA wanted UNC BADDD! So you know nothing is there to this, and Carolina didnt do anything wrong...I couldn't sleep last night because of this decision...checking out...oh and I have a feeling we are gonna land Romeo Langford now...
Well said and amen.
So what's the recruiting pitch against us now from the rival coaches... I'm sure they will come up with something clever..
We conducted ourselves throughout as the professionals we are at UNC. Our Chancellor, AD, coaches and staff should be proud. We made sound arguments and in the end were exonerated. The Carolina Way is well and good.
And yes, Jake, some folks are nervous in other conferences. One in particular. Sweating....
Guess that would leave some "speakless", is that akin to being amphibious?
And yes, Jake, some folks are nervous in other conferences. One in particular. Sweating....
Guess that would leave some "speakless", is that akin to being amphibious?
This shouldn't surprise any one who knew the facts of the case and how the NCAA works (think Jay Bilas).
The problem is (thanks to a lack of real reporting from some in the sports media) that many don't know this. They aren't aware of what really happened or what powers and jurisdiction the NCAA has. It is amazing that even now, I am still hearing complete falsehoods being repeated by some in the sports media.
A great day for UNC no doubt. The University did what it had to do and the NCAA arrived at the right decision.
The problem is (thanks to a lack of real reporting from some in the sports media) that many don't know this. They aren't aware of what really happened or what powers and jurisdiction the NCAA has. It is amazing that even now, I am still hearing complete falsehoods being repeated by some in the sports media.
A great day for UNC no doubt. The University did what it had to do and the NCAA arrived at the right decision.
That is awesome.
After everything UNC has been through over all this, today sure is a sweet day.
all of the parents who trusted Coach Williams(and staff) with their sons..I am very glad for them..and to all those who invite him into their homes whether they choose UNC or not..Coach Williams has his INTEGRITY in tact..and that means a good night's sleep..and lots of fun on the golf course too)))
With today's news, I am especially happy for Joel Berry, who had to deal with this investigation for his entire UNC career to this point. He's the heart and soul of this team, a champion and a true winner. Definitely one of my all-time favorite players to wear the jersey. So glad he decided to come back for his senior year.
Go Heels!
Go Heels!
Remember when @Raising Heel and others proved it was Dan Kane himself who nominated him for a Pulitzer? Good times.
Jake, respectfully, I am going to disagree a little bit without the intent of being disagreeable. I actually do not believe the NCAA as an entity wanted to hammer UNC, IMO the media drove that hammer narrative, especially the state wide newspaper in North Carolina the N&O and the leader of the lynch mob Dan Kane. Nationwide other media members saw this was a juicy story, one that could drive clicks for them, one they could milk for headline after headline, the truth didn't matter nearly as much as clicks did for them.
So IMO, the NCAA was backed in to a public opinion corner, just as they were with the Penn St issue. Now I do think the chairman of the NCAA had a different agenda that as well played in to this, more of a we need to take the ACC down a peg and what better way than to hang out their flagship program in Chapel Hill, else the 3rd COI would not have come disregarding the NCAAs own investigation committee findings, that was IMO all about Sankey looking to take the ACC down a notch. But I do not believe the seperate and personal agenda of Sankey should define as the NCAAs position. I believe the NCAA as a whole was more cowed by the media narrative and because they were looked hard for a way to punish us so they could say to the national media we handled this.
The problem was, as has been laid out here many times, when you really look at it, when you boil it all down, there was nothing punishable that was a violation within the scope of the NCAAs authority. I do believe UNC made it crystal clear in their reply to the last COI as well as at the hearing in July that they were fully prepared and motivated to take this to court. Now the NCAA is full of laywers, they know how weak their case was and they knew they had very little chance at success, it was as simple as UNC providing as evidence the findings of the NCAAs own investigative committee and its recommendations as well as independent 3rd party investigations.
The NCAA should have worked out a deal with UNC after the second COI, UNC would have taken a deal, UNC just wanted woman's bball hit a little less harshly, UNC would have paid a heft fine but NO, the NCAA at Sankey's directive thru all that out and came with the hammer again and created their own fate. Now they get nothing, now UNC can play the we were victims card and that is a blow in addition to this steering scandal that really hurts the NCAA. What it does is separates things in to 2 camps, the NCAA went after us unfairly and the NCAA is feckless in going after us, neither a winnable positions for them. So they took the path of least resistance and at least they do not risk being laughed at when the courts ruled in our favor!
The look of constipation, aka Jeff Goodman.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/...ls-avoid-major-sanctions-academics-fraud-case
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/...ls-avoid-major-sanctions-academics-fraud-case
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That POS Goodman was still reporting it this morning prior to release all about how UNC could be hammered blah, blah, blah, repeating the same tripe and lies he has spewed for years. How ya doin now fatty?
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