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Not so sure that we will think FSU is being shafted, not after the way the refs have "gave us the bidness" for the past five or so years. ROUGHING THE SNAPPER!!!Originally posted by TheBrickhouse:
Thought you Tarheel football fans may find this interesting.
Isn't about FSU, specifically. It is about all ACC football officiating from 2005-2012. The data suggest that the scenario you raise is more likely when UNC is the favorite.Originally posted by UNC_Blue:
Not so sure that we will think FSU is being shafted, not after the way the refs have "gave us the bidness" for the past five or so years. ROUGHING THE SNAPPER!!!Originally posted by TheBrickhouse:
Thought you Tarheel football fans may find this interesting.
In fact, over on IC, a poster broke down all UNC and ACC games. Teams that played UNC had LESS calls than average against them while playing us. While we, as their opponent, had significantly more penalties called on us than the norm. We aren't talking minute changes, but multiple calls ( both for and against ) and yardage.
UNC has been the ACC's whipping boy for years now.
The home advantage effect and underdog effect are isolated and reported as marginal influences on penalty yards. It is modeled as basic multiple regression, so your suspect is rather suspect.Originally posted by topdecktiger:
This study is rather suspect. To be more accurate, the conclusions are suspect. The key takeaway from the story is that ACC referees favored the underdogs, and ACC referees favored the home teams. Well, put them together, and you get the answer. What's making the difference is that the underdogs are being favored, typically because they are playing at home.
Originally posted by TheBrickhouse:
The home advantage effect and underdog effect are isolated and reported as marginal influences on penalty yards. It is modeled as basic multiple regression, so your suspect is rather suspect.
Did you actually read the paper at the end of the article? It was vetted and reviewed by some of the top sports analytics minds in the world.
If they have marginal effect, then there isn't a point to the story in the first place.
If you really want me to, I'll go post some lamebrained studies that have been "vetted and reviewed" by "top minds" in a given field. Moral of the story, there isn't some giant conspiracy to screw teams, Florida St included.
Where did you read that it was a conspiracy? Most biases are subtle and unconscious, as these probably are.Originally posted by topdecktiger:
Originally posted by TheBrickhouse:
The home advantage effect and underdog effect are isolated and reported as marginal influences on penalty yards. It is modeled as basic multiple regression, so your suspect is rather suspect.
Did you actually read the paper at the end of the article? It was vetted and reviewed by some of the top sports analytics minds in the world.
If they have marginal effect, then there isn't a point to the story in the first place.
If you really want me to, I'll go post some lamebrained studies that have been "vetted and reviewed" by "top minds" in a given field. Moral of the story, there isn't some giant conspiracy to screw teams, Florida St included.
+1Originally posted by UNC71-00:
I will go along with any study that gets a national officiating pool put in place.