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And I appreciate yours.

So me being a mediocre golfer is all in my head?

His unequal ability to play without the aid of a cart is what I'm emphasizing. I'm not trying to make the cart out to be some unfair equalizer, and that's not my point. I'm saying that the use of the cart is rather an imposition on the pro game. We are saying the same thing but with two different POV's. Your perspective is more in fairness to him while mine is more in fairness to the established rules and the other golfers.
Oh trust me, I'm a purist, I hated it when he got a cart (but I understood the SCOTUS decision). Just like I hate yardage finders and heat maps.

And yes, your mediocrity is just your imagination. Remember, in today's culture you can be WHATEVER you want to be. So as of today, January 1st 2025 YOU are a scratch golfer! Congrats!
 
I'd say he has to atone for his abortion and LGBTQ+ beliefs...can't support killing babies and get into Heaven. He could have built 1 million homes by hand but that would not wash away other things he did/supported. Liberals that do and/or support evil things are not Christians. The Jesus Gets Us propaganda ads are there to dupe people that "Hey Jesus is down with whatever, man." Satan loves that....

As for Carter's WH time...my dad was in the Air Force and I remember him complaining about Carter hurting the DoD. Reagan fixed all that when he replaced Carter, brought back the B-1 bomber scrapped I believe under Carter. Carter also gets the blame for: handing over the Panama Canal to now China, the Iran hostage crap which emboldened radical islam we see today, the gas crisis, and the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. I see a lot of similarities with the incompetence under Obama and Biden where Russia loved their ignorance and weakness to invade Ukraine. All of them make Clinton look like a genius outside sexual harassment stuff and Waco Tx, but then again Clinton is connected to helping keep UBL alive to pull off 9/11 on Bush 2.0. It is a pattern of ignorance, weakness and corruption under Democrats which blows up in the face of GOP winning the WH. Fauci was helping the Chinese with their Wuhan virus on Obama's watch....and Biden has allowed in over 10K Chinese (likely spies/military personnel), terrorists, illegals, felons, drugs and weapons....which hopefully do not blow up like some 9/11 on Trump's watch. Even Biden thinks he is going to heaven...the joke is on him.
Since we’re deciding who gets into heaven what’s your take on trump getting there?
One has to be an idiot to believe all of what you see and hear is by chance. Dr. Collins said the complexity of human DNA is from intelligent design, so unless aliens made us...well.

How do you explain the "big bang" theory if there was nothing to begin energy? I do laugh at scientists that claim the big bang was some random event without explaining what caused the random event if there was nothing there.
yea the Big Bang sounds totally implausible. I’m going with the invisible sky daddy spitting on the ground to make humans and koala bears walking to Australia from turkey.
 
Since we’re deciding who gets into heaven what’s your take on trump getting there?

yea the Big Bang sounds totally implausible. I’m going with the invisible sky daddy spitting on the ground to make humans and koala bears walking to Australia from turkey.
Because, you're an idiot. The big bang theory violates the 3rd law of Thermodynamics...try again...something caused your fairytale big bang.

Trump said he quit being an evil demoncrat years ago and turned into a Christian so I'd say his odds are higher than your odds.
 
Resident of Texas and was in the us army and a religious fuk nut. Def a maga.
GOP voters do live outside Texas, idiot. Try looking at the election map where you got your assess whipped 2 months ago, I was enjoying Los Angeles on election day.

Oh, I live in a blue state, have not been to "Church" since high school and was never in the Army. Keep shooting yourself in the foot.
 
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The Big Bang is a fairy tale that violates the laws of thermodynamics, but creationism is a logical theory of the origin of the universe?…

Lol where do you guys find these morons?
 
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The Big Bang is a fairy tale that violates the laws of thermodynamics, but creationism is a logical theory of the origin of the universe?…

Lol where do you guys find these morons?
Hey idiot, if there was nothing before the big bang....then what started it. The Bible says God created everything, a superior being creating everything makes more sense than energy forming from nothing. The 1st and 2nd laws of Thermodynamics also need to be true and point to something that created energy from nothing.

You see idiot, the 1st and 2nd laws point to some universe existed before the big bang aka something made that universe so that flows into what the Bible says....maybe add them together to get your answer.

I doubt you went to college.
 
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Hey idiot, if there was nothing before the big bang....then what started it. The Bible says God created everything, a superior being creating everything makes more sense than energy forming from nothing. The 1st and 2nd laws of Thermodynamics also need to be true and point to something that created energy from nothing.

I doubt you went to college.

Human intuitions of the flow of time completely break down at the extremes of relativity. Having all of the mass/energy of the universe concentrated at one small point would warp space and time to such an extreme that the flow of time would essentially be nonexistent. You trying to frame this through a linear understanding of time is your first mistake.

At no point in time has the Big Bang been framed as creating something from nothing. There is no creation, only expansion. Caused by quantum fluctuations which trigger a breakdown in the stasis of the singularity leading to the chain reaction that produced the expanding universe. The red light shift and everything about the observable universe confirms the theory of a universe that is expanding from singularity.

Your understanding of physics is so bad that it’s almost comical. The overlap of Christian apologetics and extreme confirmation bias produces some goofy bullshit lol.
 
Human intuitions of the flow of time completely break down at the extremes of relativity. Having all of the mass/energy of the universe concentrated at one small point would warp space and time to such an extreme that the flow of time would essentially be nonexistent. You trying to frame this through a linear understanding of time is your first mistake.

At no point in time has the Big Bang been framed as creating something from nothing. There is no creation, only expansion. Caused by quantum fluctuations which trigger a breakdown in the stasis of the singularity leading to the chain reaction that produced the expanding universe. The red light shift and everything about the observable universe confirms the theory of a universe that is expanding from singularity.

Your understanding of physics is so bad that it’s almost comical. The overlap of Christian apologetics and extreme confirmation bias produces some goofy bullshit lol.
Nice copy and paste job, moron.

Again, you can't explain where the singularity all began....so STFU. When you die, you will regret it all.

It is really psychotic for you to believe random expansion in space created all of what your low IQ brain can process.

From a BBC article (see below), it laughable people like you believe all of "this" happened by chance from nothing....and then your mother crapped you out. So how come this random Big Bang has not happened again, again and again and again....possibly destroying us with its expansion from nothing.

Around 13.8 billion years ago, all the matter in the Universe emerged from a single, minute point, or singularity, in a violent burst. This expanded at an astonishingly high rate and temperature, doubling in size every 10-34 seconds, creating space as it rapidly inflated. Within a tiny fraction of a second gravity and all the other forces were formed. Energy changed into particles of matter and antimatter, which largely destroyed each other. But luckily for us some matter survived. Protons and neutrons started to form within the first second; within minutes these protons and neutrons could fuse and form hydrogen and helium nuclei. After 300,000 years, nuclei could finally capture electrons to form atoms, filling the Universe with clouds of hydrogen and helium gas. After around 380,000 years it left behind a bath of photons – the Cosmic Microwave Background that Penzias and Wilson accidentally detected. Within this were tiny ripples of matter that were stretched to enormous sizes during inflation, and in turn these became the seeds for the galaxies and galactic clusters we see today.
 
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GOP voters do live outside Texas, idiot. Try looking at the election map where you got your assess whipped 2 months ago, I was enjoying Los Angeles on election day.

Oh, I live in a blue state, have not been to "Church" since high school and was never in the Army. Keep shooting yourself in the foot.
Okay so we’ve eliminated you as the terrorist. But it’s still for sure a maga that did it.
 
Musk is a result-oriented type who doesn't like getting sidetracked with side issues. That's a good way to operate an engineering project but not necessarily as effective in getting people to change their systems You can't just start cutting slabs of system out in the name of efficiency without rocking the boat too hard and maybe defeating the purpose. The waste of bureaucracy takes time to evolve, and it will take time to devolve it properly. I doubt he has the patience but I really hope he has a positive effect.
The Argentinian president shows it can be done rather quickly, but not sure if Congress or even Trump are willing to do it.

Eliminate whole departments and various agencies such as Commerce, Dept of Education, HUD, CDC, NIH, much of HHS, the FDA with maybe a new scaled down agency, the FBI or most of it, the ATF, The Dept of Homeland Security bureaucracy and new stuff added after 911, cut intel by 80%, cut the State Dept, scale back Pentagon deployments to save money there, and everything that can be cut and eliminated while maintaining the most basic core functions of government and not much more.
 
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Funny the impact this likely had on all of us. Do young people today even know what models are?



Oh, Happy New Year to everyone.
the only thing I ever saw my boys glue was their face to a computer screen. At least they understood which way the wind was blowing and went with it. I was running against it....(there's your cue....)

And HNY.
 
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Nice copy and paste job, moron.

Again, you can't explain where the singularity all began....so STFU. When you die, you will regret it all.

It is really psychotic for you to believe random expansion in space created all of what your low IQ brain can process.

From a BBC article (see below), it laughable people like you believe all of "this" happened by chance from nothing....and then your mother crapped you out. So how come this random Big Bang has not happened again, again and again and again....possibly destroying us with its expansion from nothing.

Around 13.8 billion years ago, all the matter in the Universe emerged from a single, minute point, or singularity, in a violent burst. This expanded at an astonishingly high rate and temperature, doubling in size every 10-34 seconds, creating space as it rapidly inflated. Within a tiny fraction of a second gravity and all the other forces were formed. Energy changed into particles of matter and antimatter, which largely destroyed each other. But luckily for us some matter survived. Protons and neutrons started to form within the first second; within minutes these protons and neutrons could fuse and form hydrogen and helium nuclei. After 300,000 years, nuclei could finally capture electrons to form atoms, filling the Universe with clouds of hydrogen and helium gas. After around 380,000 years it left behind a bath of photons – the Cosmic Microwave Background that Penzias and Wilson accidentally detected. Within this were tiny ripples of matter that were stretched to enormous sizes during inflation, and in turn these became the seeds for the galaxies and galactic clusters we see today.

Go ahead and link to where I copied that from. Those are my own words. I'll wait.

Can you explain where your god came from? What created your god? By your own logic there can't have been 'nothing' before 'something.' So your god had to be created from nothingness too.

You're too stupid to realize that the so called logic that you're trying to use here just creates an infinite regress. You think that you're entitled to claim that god is the origin of everything and needs no explanation, while arguing that secular people have to explain the origin of the singularity. The only difference is that the singularity is supported by evidence, while this bullshit you keep spouting off is just a poor attempt at rationalizing bronze age mythology.

I never said the expansion of the universe came from nothing or that it is random. Because neither of those things are true. The singularity is the point in space and time where all of the universe is at a singular point. I know these concepts are a little more complicated than the fairy tales you read in your bible but try to keep up.
 
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He’s with the rest of the squad, minus WWSD, in a circle thumb suck in one of their parent’s basement.
lol. Is there a pivot thumbsucker or do they rotate around the circle? Eewww. You have to wonder where those liberal thumbs have been lately.
 
The Argentinian president shows it can be done rather quickly, but not sure if Congress or even Trump are willing to do it.

Eliminate whole departments and various agencies such as Commerce, Dept of Education, HUD, CDC, NIH, much of HHS, the FDA with maybe a new scaled down agency, the FBI or most of it, the ATF, The Dept of Homeland Security bureaucracy and new stuff added after 911, cut intel by 80%, cut the State Dept, scale back Pentagon deployments to save money there, and everything that can be cut and eliminated while maintaining the most basic core functions of government and not much more.

Your argument is that we should use Argentina as a model for how to run a country? Are you familiar with their history at all?...
 
Go ahead and link to where I copied that from. Those are my own words. I'll wait.

Can you explain where your god came from? What created your god? By your own logic there can't have been 'nothing' before 'something.' So your god had to be created from nothingness too.

You're too stupid to realize that the so called logic that you're trying to use here just creates an infinite regress. You think that you're entitled to claim that god is the origin of everything and needs no explanation, while arguing that secular people have to explain the origin of the singularity. The only difference is that the singularity is supported by evidence, while this bullshit you keep spouting off is just a poor attempt at rationalizing bronze age mythology.

I never said the expansion of the universe came from nothing or that it is random. Because neither of those things are true. The singularity is the point in space and time where all of the universe is at a singular point. I know these concepts are a little more complicated than the fairy tales you read in your bible but try to keep up.
Cleatus, you can't explain what triggered the Big Bang. You see idiot when our scientists created a nuclear explosion in NM during WW2, it needed a trigger to happen. The elements involved didn't react to trigger a nuclear reaction without a trigger. You are too stupid to understand this. At least your moniker fits you, boy.

Where did God come from? God is the creator of everything, so nothing created God. God created (triggered) the Big Bang makes more sense than your psycho BS. You will find out in the end...
 
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You’re in denial. He never had a gf, hung out with 12 guys in dresses, always talking about loving one another, he was def a fag.
You're the POS talking about gloryholes because it is on your mind. No wonder Archer blocked you, given you are a demented POS.

I thought you limp-wristed left wing scum said "fag" is an evil word....yet you use it. Be sure to use the word the next time you step foot on UNC's campus....
 
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we agnostics win again, as per usual. Human knowledge is not absolute, and nothing can be known or proven absolutely....so the current back and forth is pretty much pointless. I mean other than @heelmanwilm not knowing how to spell U.S. That's an indisputable fact in evidence.

And to clarify, when I say agnostic, that applies generally as well as to religion, but not directly to religion in my case. I am I think what they call an agnostic deist. I love Jesus regardless of the manner of his existence. God be with me. But not with poor heelman. Too bad, I really wanted to meet him on the other side but it seems it's crispy critters for his soul. Just guessing of course...
 
Your argument is that we should use Argentina as a model for how to run a country? Are you familiar with their history at all?...
Model for how to quickly reform from bloated government and socialism. Yep. Are you totally ignorant of the events of the past year?
 
Go ahead and link to where I copied that from. Those are my own words. I'll wait.

Can you explain where your god came from? What created your god? By your own logic there can't have been 'nothing' before 'something.' So your god had to be created from nothingness too.

You're too stupid to realize that the so called logic that you're trying to use here just creates an infinite regress. You think that you're entitled to claim that god is the origin of everything and needs no explanation, while arguing that secular people have to explain the origin of the singularity. The only difference is that the singularity is supported by evidence, while this bullshit you keep spouting off is just a poor attempt at rationalizing bronze age mythology.

I never said the expansion of the universe came from nothing or that it is random. Because neither of those things are true. The singularity is the point in space and time where all of the universe is at a singular point. I know these concepts are a little more complicated than the fairy tales you read in your bible but try to keep up.
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By your own logic there can't have been 'nothing' before 'something.' So your god had to be created from nothingness too.

You're too stupid to realize that the so called logic that you're trying to use here just creates an infinite regress. "

Nope. You are just an ignorant, uneducated person. Things within space and time, generally materialist things, have beginnings. To apply that to a Creator who created space and time, is timeless, existing outide of and yet present at all points in space and time, and within time, is quite obviously not subject to the juvenile logic of what was there "before" God as if time is not itself a creation of God.

Even an honest atheist debating the concept of God would acknowledge this since the concept itself is defined as eternal, timeless, etc,....
 
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Your argument is that we should use Argentina as a model for how to run a country? Are you familiar with their history at all?...
lol, c'mon man. He didn't say that. He just gave them as an example of doing what I was being leery of doing. I appreciated the perspective and you should too.. I am in lockstep with him on the dire need to trim the bloat, especially the counterproductive areas that have taken on an existence of their own. Some want to go in with a chainsaw. I am suggesting a scalpel, at least at first..
 
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Nice copy and paste job, moron.

Again, you can't explain where the singularity all began....so STFU. When you die, you will regret it all.

It is really psychotic for you to believe random expansion in space created all of what your low IQ brain can process.

From a BBC article (see below), it laughable people like you believe all of "this" happened by chance from nothing....and then your mother crapped you out. So how come this random Big Bang has not happened again, again and again and again....possibly destroying us with its expansion from nothing.

Around 13.8 billion years ago, all the matter in the Universe emerged from a single, minute point, or singularity, in a violent burst. This expanded at an astonishingly high rate and temperature, doubling in size every 10-34 seconds, creating space as it rapidly inflated. Within a tiny fraction of a second gravity and all the other forces were formed. Energy changed into particles of matter and antimatter, which largely destroyed each other. But luckily for us some matter survived. Protons and neutrons started to form within the first second; within minutes these protons and neutrons could fuse and form hydrogen and helium nuclei. After 300,000 years, nuclei could finally capture electrons to form atoms, filling the Universe with clouds of hydrogen and helium gas. After around 380,000 years it left behind a bath of photons – the Cosmic Microwave Background that Penzias and Wilson accidentally detected. Within this were tiny ripples of matter that were stretched to enormous sizes during inflation, and in turn these became the seeds for the galaxies and galactic clusters we see today.
" Caused by quantum fluctuations which trigger a breakdown in the stasis of the singularity"

Oh my.....LOL. I've heard this nonsense from others who also don't even know what a quantum fluctuation is apparently and how preposterous such a sentence and claim is. Sheer inanity. Not surprised the BBC would print it nonetheless.

Matter at it's root is a fundamentally immaterial thing. Continuing to pretend there is some physical aspect that is at the root of particles is merely ignoring the reality of what I would call "basic quantum physics," which can be observed in some sense with hard lab experiments and even now applied technology.
 
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By your own logic there can't have been 'nothing' before 'something.' So your god had to be created from nothingness too.

You're too stupid to realize that the so called logic that you're trying to use here just creates an infinite regress. "

Nope. You are just an ignorant, uneducated person. Things within space and time, generally materialist things, have beginnings. To apply that to a Creator who created space and time, is timeless, existing outide of and yet present at all points in space and time, and within time, is quite obviously not subject to the juvenile logic of what was there "before" God as if time is not itself a creation of God.

Even an honest atheist debating the concept of God would acknowledge this since the concept itself is defined as eternal, timeless, etc,....
The boy is just an arrogant, ignorant POS.

Dr. Francis Collins a former atheist while at UNC, later became a Christian after doing his Human DNA work realizing only a stupid person would believe the complexity of DNA design happened by chance.

The joke is the Big Bang theory came from a Belgian priest probably trying to explain how God made everything, but instead led a movement of psychos saying it proves God does not exist.
 
Socialism in the US? Lol you gotta lay off the right win news sites.
Whatever you want to call it, we nonetheless have an unsustainable level of government at the federal level, and are likely or have already entered into a debt death spiral. We already borrow money to pay the interest on the national debt, which means the debt increases and we have to borrow more for that and on and on.

It's not sustainable.
 
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By your own logic there can't have been 'nothing' before 'something.' So your god had to be created from nothingness too.

You're too stupid to realize that the so called logic that you're trying to use here just creates an infinite regress. "

Nope. You are just an ignorant, uneducated person. Things within space and time, generally materialist things, have beginnings. To apply that to a Creator who created space and time, is timeless, existing outide of and yet present at all points in space and time, and within time, is quite obviously not subject to the juvenile logic of what was there "before" God as if time is not itself a creation of God.

Even an honest atheist debating the concept of God would acknowledge this since the concept itself is defined as eternal, timeless, etc,....

Oh right, I forgot logic only applies to materialist things. Conveniently it doesn't apply to your fictional 'creator.' You just made up an exception to the rules that you claim discount any other explanation for the origin of the universe.

The concept of time before the singularity is based on an assumption that shouldn't be made. Relativity explains time dilation near large bodies of mass/energy and we're talking about virtually infinite mass/energy concentrated in one point. There would be no flow of time during the singularity. Even saying 'during the singularity' doesn't really make sense. Human intuitions of time as a linear construct do not apply in theoretical physics when discussing singularity. There is time after the breakdown of the singularity, that is the origin of time.

Creationism is just an attempt to shoehorn mythology into science. We have the models to explain the things that religious nuts want to credit god for and none of them require intelligent design.
 
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