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why would you want to ban liver transplants? 100% of abortions wouldn't be questioned if a human life wasn't at stake. If a human life wasn't at stake, I couldn't care less if you stuck a coathanger in your cooter three times a day, every day.
The human lives at stake are going to grow up to be welfare recipients and Democrat voters. Exactly what we need more of in this country.
 
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Suggesting that people should only have sex when they intend to have children is probably the stupidest possible solution you could propose in this discussion.
the stupidest suggestion was that birth control should be rejected as a solution to irresponsible use of abortion as birth control, because it fails to work maybe one percent of the time. Just forget about birth control and keep those abortions coming I guess.
 
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The human lives at stake are going to grow up to be welfare recipients and Democrat voters. Exactly what we need more of in this country.
what we need more of, desperately, are more humans that value human life. Although you are very possibly correct, what we don't need is to terminate human life because of what it might turn out to be. We're already approaching the dystopian democrat state, no need to rush it.
 
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Suggesting that people should only have sex when they intend to have children is probably the stupidest possible solution you could propose in this discussion.

So you have sex knowing that you could get pregnant with a baby that you dont want while going to college?

Wonder what the odds are of getting pregnant while on the pill and using a condom.
 
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the stupidest suggestion was that birth control should be rejected as a solution to irresponsible use of abortion as birth control, because it fails to work maybe one percent of the time. Just forget about birth control and keep those abortions coming I guess.

Except… nobody suggested that.
 
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Love this. It's never about what's fair or anyone's fair share, it's about appealing to the masses and making them into victims of the rich. And, of course, there is no rationality or logic to this claim at the outset. First, they pay the bulk of the monies contrary to the implication. Second, they pay exactly what they are supposed to pay under the existing tax codes, regardless of political viewpoint.

and if the existing tax codes are unfair, you can't reasonably call them unfair to the less wealthy. You can explain all day long that placing a much bigger tax burden on the super-rich won't solve our economic issues, and it won't matter...it's all about that illusory 'fair share', born of human-natured resentment......like the hippie dippie TYA song says,

Tax the rich, feed the poor
'Til there are no rich no more

I would like to be super rich, but it doesn't bother me that I'm not. I'm not, and I don't resent it because I know that if I had made different choices and done things differently, I very well could be; and I celebrate that reality, because it doesn't exist elsewhere like it does here.

More importantly, I know that the achievement of becoming super rich has benefits for all of us. All our lives are better for the achievements of the super wealthy, at least generally speaking. I do NOT want to 'fair share' wealth out of existence. I don't want to live in the dump that would result.
 
Can't refute the meme so you engage in name-calling and foul language. Just like your mama and Jesus taught you, I'm sure. Good boy.
foul language? 'Asinine' isn't foul language. Maybe you think he misspelled 'assinine', a non-existent word. He didn't. I won't argue your point about name-calling, although I think overreactions to name-calling are overrated.

If you'll consider it honestly, that meme and some of your others are kind of asinine, you filthy swine. Har har.
 
the stupidest suggestion was that birth control should be rejected as a solution to irresponsible use of abortion as birth control, because it fails to work maybe one percent of the time. Just forget about birth control and keep those abortions coming I guess.

It's becoming more clear to me that 99% of the people for abortion are just lazy P.O.S. people that dont want to take any responsibility for anything.
 
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Except… nobody suggested that.
so you think the woman at the rally was protesting because there was a one percent chance that birth control would fail? That the chances of her receiving her education hinge on whether abortion is available?
 
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If Sweden and Norway and several others can make it work, why are you so sure America can't?

Then again, you might be right . . . people like you live here, after all.
a little education for you.

What it is and what it be like

'Making it work' doesn't mean anything. Everything works until it doesn't. Slavery works if you have the tolerance for it. It isn't what works, it's what you are willing to tolerate in order to get the benefit. I am willing to tolerate that some people can wipe their behinds with 1000 dollar bills if they want to, because that means I can too if I can get my hands on one....just maybe not nearly as frequently as others. Or at all. That's not a bad choice either, and we all have the freedom to not wipe our behinds with Grover Cleveland.

America. Non-socialist for the most part but teetering against the clueless, uninformed totterers who couldn't tell a golden egg from a goose turd.
 
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Uh-oh, Trump blinked

In another case of the artless deal, Donald Trump succumbed today to the notorious Chinese torture chamber. After initially raising the tariff on goods from China in February to 10%, and later to an astronomical 145%, Trump has agreed to end the stupidity and bring that number down to 30%. That's still quite a bit higher than it was when he came into office but considerably lower than what it was yesterday.

Nevertheless, this 30% tariff -- or let's call it what it is -- this 30% tax on Americans was unnecessary to begin with and it now leaves Trump defeated and wallowing in Xi's shadow. Way to go, Donnie!


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The human lives at stake are going to grow up to be welfare recipients and Democrat voters. Exactly what we need more of in this country.
Guy I know had a big party at his church last night to celebrate the SC’ ruling. He is in his late 20’s and him and his wife already have 4 children. They have been on welfare and food stamps their whole marriage. Both are big Trump supporters….
 
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Guy I know had a big party at his church last night to celebrate the SC’ ruling. He is in his late 20’s and him and his wife already have 4 children. They have been on welfare and food stamps their whole marriage. Both are big Trump supporters….
Lies No GIF
 
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If Sweden and Norway and several others can make it work, why are you so sure America can't?

Then again, you might be right . . . people like you live here, after all.
I was just in Norway, it is 98% white vikings with a common work ethic and culture. They are willing to pay high taxes and live mediocre lives because they are well brainwashed.

The Nordic countries are now regretting bringing in 3rd world trash that live in the big cities and cause trouble.

The US has been invaded by millions of 3rd world people that will drain the welfare system if given the chance. Why do rich Canadians come to the US for surgery...
 

So why is a bunch of lesbos concerned about not being able to have an abortion?
the same reason the woman was at the rally from your previous post. It has nothing much to do with abortion or anything else in particular, and much more to do any perceived infringement on a woman's entitlements. When women feel their status threatened, they'll form a mob, much like the defensive circle of a herd of muskox. It doesn't have to make sense for them to do so.
 
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the same reason the woman was at the rally from your previous post. It has nothing much to do with abortion or anything else in particular, and much more to do any perceived infringement on a woman's entitlements. When women feel their status threatened, they'll form a mob, much like the defensive circle of a herd of muskox. It doesn't have to make sense for them to do so.

The positive thing about these marches for abortion is most of those people could use the exercise.
 
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Guy I know had a big party at his church last night to celebrate the SC’ ruling. He is in his late 20’s and him and his wife already have 4 children. They have been on welfare and food stamps their whole marriage. Both are big Trump supporters….
guy I know had an abortion. Said you wouldn't believe how painful it was. I don't know whether he is on welfare and food stamps, but maybe I can find out. His wife has two large but different size breasts. She once took first and third place in a wet t-shirt contest.
 
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Uh-oh, Trump blinked

In another case of the artless deal, Donald Trump succumbed today to the notorious Chinese torture chamber. After initially raising the tariff on goods from China in February to 10%, and later to an astronomical 145%, Trump has agreed to end the stupidity and bring that number down to 30%. That's still quite a bit higher than it was when he came into office but considerably lower than what it was yesterday.

Nevertheless, this 30% tariff -- or let's call it what it is -- this 30% tax on Americans was unnecessary to begin with and it now leaves Trump defeated and wallowing in Xi's shadow. Way to go, Donnie!


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So you will have to pay more on Amazon for your blow up doll....
 
now leaves Trump defeated and wallowing in Xi's shadow
Other than another opportunity to use a stupid pic, meme, gif, etc., or enlarging your font size, exactly how specifically does this leave "Trump defeated and wallowing", pray tell?

And so you understand before you fall back to your standard response, just because Trump did something, it doesn't always mean it's bad for our country - that's the tds kicking in without actual basis. Your claim should have something substantive to support your assertion. If you can't do something more, you're nothing more than the mentally ill guy standing in the street screaming at the clouds for being too fluffy.
 
Wow! That would really hurt if I gave 2 shits what you think.

LOL. I love to play devils advocate just to watch libs squirm and cry about whatever hurts their feelings.

I'd rather a woman have an abortion (which they still will be able to do) than to have a child that she/it/they/them can't afford. I don't want more kids and moms being dependent on the gov't to foot their lifestyle. Just put them with the rest of the born losers. Another ghetto bastard.
 
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so you think the woman at the rally was protesting because there was a one percent chance that birth control would fail? That the chances of her receiving her education hinge on whether abortion is available?

Do you seriously think the women at a pro choice rally are against using birth control?… lol
 
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Guy I know had a big party at his church last night to celebrate the SC’ ruling. He is in his late 20’s and him and his wife already have 4 children. They have been on welfare and food stamps their whole marriage. Both are big Trump supporters….
Wow! That would really hurt if I gave 2 shits what you think.

So you are saying that roughly 6 hours after the announcement this "guy you know" was able to organize a party at a church and had a bunch of people show up?
 
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while ours stopped at 30%, according to what I read. Liblogic AND liblies.
What exactly are you saying is illogical or a lie? The only person lying to you is yourself.

From my post above:
Trump has agreed to end the stupidity and bring that number down to 30%. That's still quite a bit higher than it was when he came into office but considerably lower than what it was yesterday (145%).

Nevertheless, this 30% tariff -- or let's call it what it is -- this 30% tax on Americans was unnecessary to begin with . . .
 
RFK Jr. takes his grandchildren swimming in fecal matter. Hilarious!

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The nation's top health advisor spent time with his grandchildren on Mother's Day in a contaminated Maryland creek, according to photos shared on his social media. U.S. federal officials have warned against swimming in the waters for more than 50 years.

According to the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Energy and Environment (DOEE), Rock Creek contains widespread human and animal waste and consistently contains high levels of Escherichia coli (E. coli).


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So you are saying that roughly 6 hours after the announcement this "guy you know" was able to organize a party at a church and had a bunch of people show up?

Just because you never get invited to parties doesn't mean they aren't happening.

They can't have a juggalo walking around at a pro life party. It might make people reconsider their views on abortion.
 
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What exactly are you saying is illogical or a lie? The only person lying to you is yourself.

From my post above:
Trump has agreed to end the stupidity and bring that number down to 30%. That's still quite a bit higher than it was when he came into office but considerably lower than what it was yesterday (145%).

Nevertheless, this 30% tariff -- or let's call it what it is -- this 30% tax on Americans was unnecessary to begin with . . .
the liblogic is all over the place. Take your pick. I would go with that which was already pointed out, that Trump 'succumbed' to blah blah blah, when in fact his reduced tariff rate is at this point higher than China's. Just because Trump reduced his from what they were doesn't indicate anything other than that he reduced his from what they were, as part of the ongoing back-and-forth with China. Of course, try-too-hard libtools like you try to make that sound like we surrendered the WH to the Chinese.

So far as liblies are concerned, take your pick of just about anything you post. I could go with the aforementioned bit of idiocy on your part, but the disingenuous effort to portray Trump's changing tariffs as failed policy at this point, which you so happily participate in, is just typical leftist distortion and smear tactic dishonesty. Liblies. No one knows what will end up washing out with all this. Calling it failure at this point is just dishonest. The only thing we can bank on is that dorks like you will gleefully piss their pants every time an opportunity to distort reality comes along.
 
So you are saying that roughly 6 hours after the announcement this "guy you know" was able to organize a party at a church and had a bunch of people show up?
I'd bet that there were a great many of them last night.

And, fact is that 99% were spur of the moment.
 
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the liblogic is all over the place. Take your pick. I would go with that which was already pointed out, that Trump 'succumbed' to blah blah blah, when in fact his reduced tariff rate is at this point higher than China's.
And you think THAT spells victory for Donald Trump? It sure as hell doesn't spell victory for American consumers who will be paying an additional 30% tax on all goods purchased in this country that come from China. It's safe to assume that America as a whole would prefer the 10% tax we had BEFORE Trump came back into office.

And before you wet yourself, remember this: just like with the U.K., this is only an agreement and not yet a deal. We had a deal -- a good deal - before Tump came along and f*cked it up. You should also know that with all the uncertainty and potential volatility that lies ahead, Wall Street has very mixed reviews today while China sees the agreement as a big win for Beijing. Just what Donald Trump was afraid of.

They're not calling this the Trump tariff retreat for nothing.

The only thing we can bank on is that dorks like you will gleefully piss their pants every time an opportunity to distort reality comes along.
I'm not distorting the facts and you know it. I routinely use legitimate sources and always share the links. You're only comeback from the unfortunate truth is to make claims that either I am lying or, like this, that I am distorting the facts. You poor thing. Life must suck for dumb, spineless people like you.
 
And you think THAT spells victory for Donald Trump?
well, THAT might very well be, but I didn't say so. YOU indicated it spelled defeat, yet present nothing other than opinion disguised as fact to try to make that seem to be the case. That's what I called you on. I said no one knows how this will all eventually shake out, and I said so because you are trying to indicate that Trump has already been defeated.

I'm not distorting the facts and you know it. I routinely use legitimate sources and always share the links. You're only comeback from the unfortunate truth is to make claims that either I am lying or, like this, that I am distorting the facts.

You spew your biased bullshit, while I just say what's what. Accordingly, I called bullshit on your latest attempt to distort reality. Remember? I said reality is what you distorted, not facts. And I laugh at your sanctimonious claim of being the fact provider. You are more FOS than a Christmas goose. Facts are facts, but facts can be presented deceptively, and that's part of your routine, your M.O..

You sometimes provide linkage to bolster your claims and sometimes you don't. but mostly what you provide is just biased garbage. I am the one who calls you a liar because you are, but when I present something as fact, I am the one who backs it up with good substantiation, not you.

I love how your being outed as a liar has gotten under your skin so badly. It should.

It's safe to assume that America as a whole would prefer the 10% tax we had BEFORE Trump came back into office.

What is safe to assume in your opinion is neither here nor there. We weren't discussing American opinion; but nice strawman attempt. People will complain about not having what they want right now, and then say they were behind NOT having that all along when it turns out to be a good thing. Good leadership doesn't play to the whims of the public but does what it believes is right and proper for people in spite of how popular or UNpopular it might immediately be.

some more blather from you and then...
They're not calling this the Trump tariff retreat for nothing.

and again, what 'they' call it makes no difference to anyone but those who seek to detract from what might very well be wildly successful. But you make yourself out to be an incredible dumbass for stipulating that if an ongoing process has its ebbs and flows, and is not instantly successful, then it must be a failure. The TDS is making you make a butthurt fool of yourself.

I've never seen anyone try so hard, and fail so hard, to make up for having so spectacularly backed the wrong pony. And what you apparently don't realize is that the harder you try, the more obvious is your failure. I love it.


I saved this gem for last...
China sees the agreement as a big win for Beijing
you don't say. I can hardly believe it. OK, that does it. China and Heels Noir say they won, so I guess that's that. LMAO.
 
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Funny isn't it, a woman's right to chose, yet so many marching to that will not define what a woman is? How can a woman have a right to chose if we don't know what one is?

My body my choice, fine as long as we are not talking about another body riding along with you, then who choses for it? You have a choice, all "birth givers" have a choice, have sex without contraception or not. Realize the potential out comes of your choices.

My body my choice, yeah but what if your mother had chose to abort you, does your life mean so little? How many great minds, minds that may have revolutionary changed this world for the better ended up aborted?

A doctor that does abortions is by definition a serial killer but rather than arrest him many want to insure he continues on and they would prefer he be funded for his efforts by the government?

Woman's right to chose, cool, chose not to have sex until marriage, chose condoms, chose the pill, chose the shot, chose the day after pill, don't chose murder and above all things do not chose to murder a child.

There are many that want the abortion option available all the way up to day of delivery and some idiots feel even after the child is born that the life may still be terminated??? That is a complete lack of morality, a shameful state that is even being discussed. The democrats would allow late term abortions tomorrow if they could get it passed thru congress. There is and there can never be any justification for late term abortions because you can not deny that is a viable life. Late term abortions are very clearly the murder of a child and all involved deserve the very same fate as that of any other child murderer, all parties, the woman, the doctor, and the politicians that allowed and inspired the murder.

I guess now we should ban all clothes hangers in this country because they are assault weapons, all clothes hanger manufactures should be put put of business, all existing clothes hangers should be confiscated, because like the guns, it is clothes hangers now that kill people? Isn't it funny how now days it is inanimate objects that kill people, not the people wielding them?

I don't know when life begins in the womb but from everything I have seen after the first trimester (maybe before) that is a viable child inside of you, ending that life from that point on is murder. You can try to justify by saying it is a fetus, sorry no, it is a child, you can say you should be able to terminate the fetus, no, that is murder of your child. Why is a woman's right to chose murder of her child more important than that child's right to live? Are you not glad your mother gave you the right to live? Not a single person on this planet was not given the right to live, all these abortion activists were given the right to live, every one of those screaming pro abortion nonsense was themselves given the right to live.
 
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I'd bet that there were a great many of them last night.

And, fact is that 99% were spur of the moment.

That is just weird. When I heard the ruling my first thought was to troll some libs online. Then have some lunch. Then get some work done. Then troll some libs online some more. Then head home to mow some grass. Then troll some libs online some more.

Never considered having or attending a party to celebrate libs panties being in a bunch.
 
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Funny isn't it, a woman's right to chose, yet so many marching to that will not define what a woman is? How can a woman have a right to chose if we don't know what one is?

My body my choice, fine as long as we are not talking about another body riding along with you, then who choses for it? You have a choice, all "birth givers" have a choice, have sex without contraception or not. Realize the potential out comes of your choices.

My body my choice, yeah but what if your mother had chose to abort you, does your life mean so little? How many great minds, minds that may have revolutionary changed this world for the better ended up aborted?

A doctor that does abortions is by definition a serial killer but rather than arrest him many want to insure he continues on and they would prefer he be funded for his efforts by the government?

Woman's right to chose, cool, chose not to have sex until marriage, chose condoms, chose the pill, chose the shot, chose the day after pill, don't chose murder and above all things do not chose to murder a child.

There are many that want the abortion option available all the way up to day of delivery and some idiots feel even after the child is born that the life may still be terminated??? That is a complete lack of morality, a shameful state that is even being discussed. The democrats would allow late term abortions tomorrow if they could get it passed thru congress. There is and there can never be any justification for late term abortions because you can not deny that is a viable life. Late term abortions are very clearly the murder of a child and all involved deserve the very same fate as that of any other child murderer, all parties, the woman, the doctor, and the politicians that allowed and inspired the murder.

I guess now we should ban all clothes hangers in this country because they are assault weapons, all clothes hanger manufactures should be put put of business, all existing clothes hangers should be confiscated, because like the guns, it is clothes hangers now that kill people? Isn't it funny how now days it is inanimate objects that kill people, not the people wielding them?

I don't know when life begins in the womb but from everything I have seen after the first trimester (maybe before) that is a viable child inside of you, ending that life from that point on is murder. You can try to justify by saying it is a fetus, sorry no, it is a child, you can say you should be able to terminate the fetus, no, that is murder of your child. Why is a woman's right to chose murder of her child more important than that child's right to live? Are you not glad your mother gave you the right to live? Not a single person on this planet was not given the right to live, all these abortion activists were given the right to live, every one of those screaming pro abortion nonsense was themselves given the right to live.

Solid post. I have stated how ironic it is that the people that support abortion would not be able to support abortion if their mothers had chosen to have an abortion.
 
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Anyone(WWJD) who adopts a username specifically to poke fun at people’s religious beliefs is a lowlife POS. It’s fine if someone doesn’t believe in Christianity but to mock half the world that does is not only insulting but beyond stupidity.
 
That is just weird. When I heard the ruling my first thought was to troll some libs online. Then have some lunch. Then get some work done. Then troll some libs online some more. Then head home to mow some grass. Then troll some libs online some more.

Never considered having or attending a party to celebrate libs panties being in a bunch.
Well, that's one of the things about being "you." What other people do differently from you is weird. The trick is to realize that we're all connected and what we do to others, we do it to ourselves. It's not really a trick... it's more like a purpose.
 
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So-called "liberals" are now confronted with doing something instead of talking about it. The odds are in their favor. The USA has an 87% approval for abortion being legal. Apparently, you can still get one within 15 weeks anywhere, and up to 9 months in certain states. But, the people that want it to be legal need to get it CODIFIED INTO LAW, by legislation, not the "supreme" court. The SCOTUS is just another political football.

America is a marriage of two people that hate each other and everything is done to spite the other one, making life more miserable for both in the long run.
 
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So-called "liberals" are now confronted with doing something instead of talking about it. The odds are in their favor. The USA has an 87% approval for abortion being legal. Apparently, you can still get one within 15 weeks anywhere, and up to 9 months in certain states. But, the people that want it to be legal need to get it CODIFIED INTO LAW, by legislation, not the "supreme" court. The SCOTUS is just another political football.
"87% support abortion when the woman’s life is in danger, 84% support exceptions in the case of rape or incest, and 74% support abortion if the child would be born with a life-threatening illness."

The numbers drop drastically from there when you take away those exceptions.

"61% believe abortion should be legal during the first trimester, but only 34% in the second trimester and 19% in the third, and an April Wall Street Journal poll finding more Americans approve of 15-week abortion bans than disapprove."

- Forbes sourcing of AP/NORC and WSJ poll
 
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"87% support abortion when the woman’s life is in danger, 84% support exceptions in the case of rape or incest, and 74% support abortion if the child would be born with a life-threatening illness."

The numbers drop drastically from there when you take away those exceptions.

"61% believe abortion should be legal during the first trimester, but only 34% in the second trimester and 19% in the third, and an April Wall Street Journal poll finding more Americans approve of 15-week abortion bans than disapprove."

- Forbes sourcing of AP/NORC and WSJ poll
Great! Codify THAT into law! It's pretty simple.

If the fervently pro-life/choice crowds would stop exaggerating each other's perspective, we'd all realize that more like 90% of Americans are at the exact same place on this entire issue.
 
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Great! Codify THAT into law! It's pretty simple.

If the fervently pro-life/choice crowds would stop exaggerating each other's perspective, we'd all realize that more like 90% of Americans are at the exact same place on this entire issue.
Well of course there is the problem. For example, I could support abortion for any reason up to 15 or 20 weeks. The politicians I would vote against in my state want a complete, on-demand abortion at any stage of pregnancy. They won't relent. They won't serve the majority of their base. They want to make the fringe happy.
 
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Well of course there is the problem. For example, I could support abortion for any reason up to 15 or 20 weeks. The politicians I would vote against in my state want a complete, on-demand abortion at any stage of pregnancy. They won't relent. They won't serve the majority of their base. They want to make the fringe happy.
Then they deserve the outcome.
 
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Do you seriously think the women at a pro choice rally are against using birth control?… lol
I think any woman who has abortion as a means of birth control, and in particular one who goes so far as to protest the threat of loss of that option, is less likely to be using other means. What do you think? I think a woman who says she is concerned over having a baby, and that baby disrupting her education, is less likely to be using 99% effective birth control and more likely to be depending on the option of abortion. What do you think?...lol
 
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