OOTB's Political Thread . ..

[joeydavid]

so do you think that Trumps plan to try to bring spending under control, which was derided here by one of the usuals, is a bad plan and a wasted effort (and I mean in concept, not in detail which I have no knowledge of) ? Or should we just go on biz as usual, adding and adding to the debt to fund every whim, until it just implodes?

I'm not baiting you at all, I'm trying to get you to carry your thought out more so I can see where you're coming from with it.

You think the guy who put the most debt on books in just 4 years is the guy who will curb spending? The guy who in 2015 ran on paying off the debt "it will be so easy".

His "plan" is to put another $8 trillion on the debt.

Seriously, do you live in the U.S.? You talk about like it's some foreign land on the other side of the world.

 

[joeydavid]

Wait...are you arguing you have a better understanding of the Federal Reserve than Trump?

LOL. And Trump is the narcissist?

A 10th grader has a better understanding of the economy than Trump. The dude still doesn't even know how a tariff works.

 

[joeydavid]

Already expecting to lose...

Trump is laying the groundwork to challenge an election he might lose. Pennsylvania is ground zero.

The former president is laying the groundwork to contest the results if he loses the race’s biggest battleground.

www.yahoo.com

He's been acting like their internal poll have him losing PA bigly.

Going to New Mexico doesn't seem to make much sense. Unless if his campaign has decided nothing good comes from letting him talk in the battleground states.

 

[joeydavid]

That's dope the way the video does Trump's voice. They should do a remix. I was imagining the beat dropping in while Trump was going, "whether the women like it or not."

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[heelmanwilm]

So going by todays poll of polls and giving states to candidates if they have at least a point lead (that’s a huge assumption I know as several are in margin of error) plus giving the weird “one” vote in neb to Harris;

Harris 252
Trump 251

The only states with no one leading by at least a point;

Nc with 16 votes
Pa with 19.

So in this scenario it’s Pa or bust for both. Currently trump has a half point lead there.

 

[joeydavid]

So going by todays poll of polls and giving states to candidates if they have at least a point lead (that’s a huge assumption I know as several are in margin of error) plus giving the weird “one” vote in neb to Harris;

Harris 252
Trump 251

The only states with no one leading by at least a point;

Nc with 16 votes
Pa with 19.

So in this scenario it’s Pa or bust for both. Currently trump has a half point lead there.

The polls haven't moved since the debate. What has changed in many of the polls is partisan modeling.

In 2016, the polls missed how many uneducated rubes were willing to leave their trailers.

In 2020, the polls missed how many educated people fed up with trump's idiotic nonsense.

In 2022, the polls missed how many women were disgusted by Roe.

In 2024, it looks like they are still underestimating what they missed in 2022.

If you can't predict who is going to vote, the polls are useless. Since Trump, there's been a major restructuring of voters, making the polls more useless than usual.

 

[joeydavid]

So going by todays poll of polls and giving states to candidates if they have at least a point lead (that’s a huge assumption I know as several are in margin of error) plus giving the weird “one” vote in neb to Harris;

Harris 252
Trump 251

The only states with no one leading by at least a point;

Nc with 16 votes
Pa with 19.

So in this scenario it’s Pa or bust for both. Currently trump has a half point lead there.

One more thing, Trump disclosed on Rogan that his campaign is paying $500k for each partisan poll. Why would they be spending all of this money if their internal polls looked great? They (trump/GOP) did the same thing in 2020 and 2022.

 

[gteeitup]

Well, I would love it if he wore the vest all the time.

might be his new daily fit

 

[joeydavid]

More on PA.

 

[gunslingerdick]

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Those dudes are still probably voting for him. lol

 

[gunslingerdick]

A 10th grader has a better understanding of the economy than Trump. The dude still doesn't even know how a tariff works.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

More on PA.

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From the article: "In Pennsylvania, the biggest battleground in the Blue Wall, Republicans are encouraged because the partisan gap in ballots returned so far has narrowed significantly since 2020. Democrats hold only a 25-point advantage, compared to nearly 50 points four years ago."

Interesting development.

 

[bluetoe]

Catholic Ireland decided that was too far, and voted to ELIMINATE abortion bans after this in 2018.

What plan is that?

his plan to bring spending under control. C'mon man.

 

[bluetoe]

I know what the Fed is in specific terms.

I'm all eyes.

 

[bluetoe]

You think the guy who put the most debt on books in just 4 years is the guy who will curb spending? The guy who in 2015 ran on paying off the debt "it will be so easy".

His "plan" is to put another $8 trillion on the debt.

Seriously, do you live in the U.S.? You talk about like it's some foreign land on the other side of the world.

"Seriously, do you live in the U.S.? You talk about like it's some foreign land on the other side of the world."

you talk about like an ignoramus who doesn't know enough to keep his uneducated blather to himself. But let's give you a chance. Run down his $8 trillion plan for us.