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that likelihood hasn't occurred to you?
No... it hadn't, at all. It's not something that I'm threatened by or vulnerable to, to even notice or care. So what if he was? When guys like Vance and Carlson say shit like this, it merely outs THEM! They just reveal their own sexual insecurity... like you just did! It implies there's some alleged defect or weakness that doesn't exist in being gay and/or bi, or whatever the hell. Whatever it is, you DO NOT want to be gay or bi... oh, lord, no! That's worse than cancer! "Straight" is a mental construct that humans created, just like everything else.

Judging by looks, Trump wears more facial bronzer than Siegfried AND Roy. So, clearly Trump has blown a ton of guys! I'm sure you can excuse him.
 
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Every time i read a wonky looking poll i'm fortunate enough to come across stuff like this. I suspect polling is less of a thing next season.

 
When I hear that... I don't think he's saying he wants to have Liz Cheney shot. They edited this quite a bit. She, and her father, are/were pro-war when it came to sending US troops into the Middle East. That was one of the biggest mistakes in the history of American foreign policy. So, what I heard, or understood Trump to mean, was that if Liz (and, maybe her father), or any of those GOP warhawks, were on the business end of the bombs and the weaponry, they might be a little less eager to use military force to police the world, when it's your country in the cross-hairs. Of course, I understand how people could also understand it to seem like a man who is looking to get even with his own domestic political rivals, especially when you only hear 20 seconds of what he said.
Thank you for pointing out the silliness of these types of manipulative attempts. Both sides say enough stupid stuff without having to make it up.


 
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Every time i read a wonky looking poll i'm fortunate enough to come across stuff like this. I suspect polling is less of a thing next season.

The polling is definitely broken. When you have people like @DaveChapelle saying that anyone who votes for Trump is a racist, it's not surprising that people may be hesitant to tell a pollster they're voting for him just to get a 10 minute tongue lashing.
 
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They found the whale who dropped the 30 million on polymarket, triggering the Trump momo in the betting markets. He isn't an insider at all.
 
Again, he's referring to the wars that her father, and the Bush's, and a lot of the GOP (20 years ago) were sending American kids off to die in, after 9/11. Lots of money to be made on war! I'm not sure why he's harping on that, or Liz Cheney, at this point. The funny part is he's "volunteering" to go with her? To the Middle East? okay? He dodged the draft as much as Dick Cheney.
 
Even if he had been specific that he wanted Liz Cheney put in front of a firing squad, you'd have an excuse for it. The easiest being just call it "TDS." It's the most lazy and intellectually dishonest way to go. That's the best part of the whole Trump-cult experience. We get to watch the floor get lower and lower. There's no bottom. It's the boiling-frog metaphor in real-time.
l.ol, you know what's really intellectually dishonest? Making more of something than there plainly is just so you can assume some imagined moral superiority while failing completely to even begin to address my remarks regarding it. If you see more to these few words than what I described, have some intellectual honesty AND a pair of nuts, and say why what I said isn't exactly the truth.

The simple truth is that you and the other lib women, like that disgusting bitch Kamala Harris, just see an opportunity to jump on the soapbox and for different reasons you're capitalizing on it, truth and reason be damned. She says he should be disqualified for the 'violent rhetoric' YOU intentionally read more into his words than he intended so you can get on your high horse.

GTFO with that prissy bullshit.. I say what kind of pansies have we become that to suggest that someone ought to have a gun pointed at them to see what it feels like BECAUSE they are themselves overly eager to put others in harms way, is some kind of criminal offense. That sort of thing used to be thought laudable before you started wearing your panties outside your pants.

You really make me want to puke sometimes with your faux offendedness. Grow up, Alice.
 
No... it hadn't, at all. It's not something that I'm threatened by or vulnerable to, to even notice or care. So what if he was? When guys like Vance and Carlson say shit like this, it merely outs THEM! They just reveal their own sexual insecurity... like you just did! It implies there's some alleged defect or weakness that doesn't exist in being gay and/or bi, or whatever the hell. Whatever it is, you DO NOT want to be gay or bi... oh, lord, no! That's worse than cancer! "Straight" is a mental construct that humans created, just like everything else.

Judging by looks, Trump wears more facial bronzer than Siegfried AND Roy. So, clearly Trump has blown a ton of guys! I'm sure you can excuse him.
and there you go again. I didn't type even a single syllable suggesting that I thought there was anything wrong with him being gay. I was questioning if you hadn't made the same observation as Carlson simply because the man has gay written all over him. But virtue-signal away, it's not like anyone could stop you from fulfilling your emotional needs.
 
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This would ruin any other politician's career... any other celebrity's career. It won't change or even remotely affect Trump. There could be explicit photos of him with girls who were 16, 17... wouldn't make a difference at all. He's impervious to any kind of sexual misconduct. Nothing would matter to his supporters.


Just knowing him is hardly a crime.
 
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This would ruin any other politician's career... any other celebrity's career. It won't change or even remotely affect Trump. There could be explicit photos of him with girls who were 16, 17... wouldn't make a difference at all. He's impervious to any kind of sexual misconduct. Nothing would matter to his supporters.


Just knowing him is hardly a crime.

That says alot more about his supporters than him. Loving a self-admitted serial sexual assaulter, rapist and probable pedophile, takes a special kind of person.

 
and there you go again. I didn't type even a single syllable suggesting that I thought there was anything wrong with him being gay. I was questioning if you hadn't made the same observation as Carlson simply because the man has gay written all over him. But virtue-signal away, it's not like anyone could stop you from fulfilling your emotional needs.
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Thought this was interesting. It's nothing new in terms of the psychology behind it, but I think it speaks volumes to the idea of our perceptions and what we perceive. Those that hate Trump will judge a situation with that mentality. Those that support him will also judge with that mentality. It helps explain why people can see the exact same thing so very differently. It even helps to explain things like why certain posters here tend to cry racism when none exists or why there actually is racism and someone just doesn't see it.

So what they did in this experiment was take participants and gave them facial "scars" through the use of makeup. They told them that they were then going to interact with others so that it could be determined if the existence of the scar was held against them in some aspect by the other persons. They showed the participants their "scars" using a mirror and then told the participants that they needed to "touch up" or moisturize the scars. In actuality, they completely removed the scars such that the participants merely believed they had scars on their face but were completely blemish free.

They then participated in social interactions. Incredibly, despite having no scars whatsoever, the participants reported back that they were treated differently, felt stigmatized, and even quoted statements made about them in reference to the scarring. This particular study was done in 1980 and called the Dartmouth Scar Experiment. But there are others that confirm the same result and that is this: what we see and experience can be largely impacted and influenced by what we expect to see or anticipate will happen. We should all try to remember this phenomenon when forming our opinions as we are all victims of our individual perspectives.

Here's one link discussing some of the different studies:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/theory-of-knowledge/202311/what-you-see-is-what-you-look-for
 
Thought this was interesting. It's nothing new in terms of the psychology behind it, but I think it speaks volumes to the idea of our perceptions and what we perceive. Those that hate Trump will judge a situation with that mentality. Those that support him will also judge with that mentality. It helps explain why people can see the exact same thing so very differently. It even helps to explain things like why certain posters here tend to cry racism when none exists or why there actually is racism and someone just doesn't see it.

So what they did in this experiment was take participants and gave them facial "scars" through the use of makeup. They told them that they were then going to interact with others so that it could be determined if the existence of the scar was held against them in some aspect by the other persons. They showed the participants their "scars" using a mirror and then told the participants that they needed to "touch up" or moisturize the scars. In actuality, they completely removed the scars such that the participants merely believed they had scars on their face but were completely blemish free.

They then participated in social interactions. Incredibly, despite having no scars whatsoever, the participants reported back that they were treated differently, felt stigmatized, and even quoted statements made about them in reference to the scarring. This particular study was done in 1980 and called the Dartmouth Scar Experiment. But there are others that confirm the same result and that is this: what we see and experience can be largely impacted and influenced by what we expect to see or anticipate will happen. We should all try to remember this phenomenon when forming our opinions as we are all victims of our individual perspectives.

Here's one link discussing some of the different studies:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/theory-of-knowledge/202311/what-you-see-is-what-you-look-for
About ten years ago a kid speeding to school through the neighborhood crossed the center line and ran me off the road within sight of my house. I was in a jeep with no top. I rolled several times but didnt eject thanks to my seat belt. Unfortunately though I rolled over a pile of hurricane debris in someones yard and got the skin on my face and scalp peeled back and lost most of my ear. . So I have a nasty scar extending from top of my forehead to below my cheek. I can tell you with certainty that people treat me differently after the scar. I’m not whining about being a victim but it’s just I can tell people look at me differently. What gets old is going out to the bars and after people get lit they invariably walk up to me at random and want to comment on it.
 
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