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nctransplant said:
No surprise here from the left. Nothing they do surprises me at all. The left is self-destructing in front of our eyes and I'm here for it.
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Megyn Kelly did a show on the way the lefties are continuing their normal behavior at the confirmation hearings, and Anna Kasparian is a guest. It's a good one.



In case it has escaped anyone's notice, I love Megyn Kelly. And I would happily cross a line to do Anna Kasparian a huge favor and myself an even bigger one, but I'm getting off point. The point is that the lefties don't seem to get what people are beyond tired of, even after having their asses handed to them because of it. I'm not complaining. I just wish the usuals were still here to taste it.
 
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bluetoe said:
Megyn Kelly did a show on the way the lefties are continuing their normal behavior at the confirmation hearings, and Anna Kasparian is a guest. It's a good one.

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In case it has escaped anyone's notice, I love Megyn Kelly. And I would happily cross a line to do Anna Kasparian a huge favor and myself an even bigger one, but I'm getting off point. The point is that the lefties don't seem to get what people are beyond tired of, even after having their asses handed to them because of it. I'm not complaining. I just wish the usuals were still here to taste it.
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Oh they taste it. They just don't have balls enough to admit it taste so good.
 
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randman1 said:
It can happen. CA can flip red. Besides people like this, a lot of Hispanics are changing how they vote and don't like the woke stuff. Nor illegal immigration and the gangs that come with that. They make up 40% of California's population, albeit don't vote at 40% of votes generally.

The GOP ought to make a real effort the next few election cycles. If you get a majority of Hispanics, which imo is entirely doable, and peel off dissatisfied liberals/dems, it can turn red and have a major impact on the rest of the nation as far as the balance of political power.
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Would be hilarious karma if the Dem policies on (largely Latino) immigration, which they intended as future voters for the Dem party, end up leading to a bolus of Latino voters voting Republican because they hate the woke shit the Dems stand for.
 
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Hark_The_Sound_2010 said:
Would be hilarious karma if the Dem policies on (largely Latino) immigration, which they intended as future voters for the Dem party, end up leading to a bolus of Latino voters voting Republican because they hate the woke shit the Dems stand for.
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I have a friend who works at a much larger company than mine, and they employ a large number of Hispanics, some of them of questionable legitimacy. He interacts with them more than anyone else there because it's his job to oversee them, and it doesn't hurt that, having been raised in Panama, he speaks fluent Spanish. He sees that they are well-taken care of, and they in turn trust him and confide in him.

Anyway, long story less long, he's been telling me for years that when green, they complain about hardships imposed on them. But once they get settled, they complain about taxes and all the illegal immigration, and entitlements being handed out like candy. And as you might expect, they despise wokeness. They become republicans, in other words.
 
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What Would Jesus Do? said:
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To answer her question, it's not just you, food is feeling really unsafe these days. And, it's part of the reason why so many panties are all twisted up over RFK Jr. making it an issue because the government as usual types and entrenched regulation system can't possible accept any questions or challenges to their authority and control over things. The high ground, moral superiority assumptions by those such as this young lady just aren't reality and you can roll around in the muck believing the orange mud is coming for you, but that hardly tells the real story. It only begins to pull back the curtain. Here's just one example of how we are told one thing with another actually happening:


https://www.thefp.com/p/when-mike-johnson-knew-joe-biden-not-in-charge
 
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pooponduke said:
To answer her question, it's not just you, food is feeling really unsafe these days. And, it's part of the reason why so many panties are all twisted up over RFK Jr. making it an issue because the government as usual types and entrenched regulation system can't possible accept any questions or challenges to their authority and control over things. The high ground, moral superiority assumptions by those such as this young lady just aren't reality and you can roll around in the muck believing the orange mud is coming for you, but that hardly tells the real story. It only begins to pull back the curtain. Here's just one example of how we are told one thing with another actually happening:


https://www.thefp.com/p/when-mike-johnson-knew-joe-biden-not-in-charge
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Libs here won't believe this either. TDS is a terrible thing
 
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I am in DC for the inauguration and I saw the left wing kook scum around the mall yesterday. They had their pro-abortion crap, support illegals crap and some had their hamas/Palestinian crap...the usual scum of the Earth people that believe the lies about Trump even now.
 
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pooponduke said:
To answer her question, it's not just you, food is feeling really unsafe these days. And, it's part of the reason why so many panties are all twisted up over RFK Jr. making it an issue because the government as usual types and entrenched regulation system can't possible accept any questions or challenges to their authority and control over things. The high ground, moral superiority assumptions by those such as this young lady just aren't reality and you can roll around in the muck believing the orange mud is coming for you, but that hardly tells the real story. It only begins to pull back the curtain. Here's just one example of how we are told one thing with another actually happening:


https://www.thefp.com/p/when-mike-johnson-knew-joe-biden-not-in-charge
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you've seen the movie. It isn't a fantasy. Joe Biden is the Manchurian candidate. Our country has been being run by Chinese operatives.
 
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90sWoollenGymRat said:
I am in DC for the inauguration and I saw the left wing kook scum around the mall yesterday. They had their pro-abortion crap, support illegals crap and some had their hamas/Palestinian crap...the usual scum of the Earth people that believe the lies about Trump even now.
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why do you suggest that they believe those lies? Many do, of course, but I don't think the furtherance of their agenda requires that. For them, the truth is just an obstacle to be overcome.
 
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bluetoe said:
yes, they push it but that doesn't mean they believe it. Not believing it doesn't keep them from pushing it. Defaming him and obstructing him is the goal, they don't care about the truth.
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Well, technically, now that he has been sentenced, he is a convicted felon. That wasn't the case before the sentencing which means before the election. Fortunately, it didn't matter to the voters who made it Too Big to Rig. What I want to see is how many of the name callers come and apologize when this entire case ultimately is overturned on appeal. I bet it's gonna be a big loud case of crickets.
 
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pooponduke said:
To answer her question, it's not just you, food is feeling really unsafe these days. And, it's part of the reason why so many panties are all twisted up over RFK Jr. making it an issue because the government as usual types and entrenched regulation system can't possible accept any questions or challenges to their authority and control over things. The high ground, moral superiority assumptions by those such as this young lady just aren't reality and you can roll around in the muck believing the orange mud is coming for you, but that hardly tells the real story. It only begins to pull back the curtain. Here's just one example of how we are told one thing with another actually happening:


https://www.thefp.com/p/when-mike-johnson-knew-joe-biden-not-in-charge
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We knew it, his Administration knew it, the media knew it all long before that. He had been a puppet candidate from the beginning anyway. All they cared about was staying in power.
bluetoe said:
you've seen the movie. It isn't a fantasy. Joe Biden is the Manchurian candidate. Our country has been being run by Chinese operatives.
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It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if that turned out to be true. The man certainly couldn’t have forked the country up more if he had been.
bluetoe said:
yes, they push it but that doesn't mean they believe it. Not believing it doesn't keep them from pushing it. Defaming him and obstructing him is the goal, they don't care about the truth.
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Truth? Maybe a third of our legislators on either side care about truth these days. They’ve morphed into our lords, earls, and barons, the America aristocracy. As far as they’re concerned, we can eat cake.
 
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pooponduke said:
Well, technically, now that he has been sentenced, he is a convicted felon. That wasn't the case before the sentencing which means before the election. Fortunately, it didn't matter to the voters who made it Too Big to Rig. What I want to see is how many of the name callers come and apologize when this entire case ultimately is overturned on appeal. I bet it's gonna be a big loud case of crickets.
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actually, it was true even before the sentencing, that he was convicted. But that doesn't make it true in anything other than a legal sense, meaning that to say he was convicted doesn't say he was actually guilty. But technically, if they are only saying he is a convicted felon, they aren't lying. But if they believe he is not guilty, which I'm convinced that many of them must, they are being dishonest to hold his conviction up against him as if that is proof of his guilt and evidence of a morally bankrupt character, which is their intended point and their intended goal as it always has been..

But to tell the truth, I was referring more to their approach in total, which includes the aforementioned 'Russia' part of the equation and other false narratives.

That being said, don't hold your breath waiting for those apologetic name-callers to show back up here. There's a lot more on the list of things to admit and apologize for which they could already have done, if they were at all inclined to do so; and we haven't caught much more than a whiff of them so far, with nary a hint of apology..
 
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It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if that turned out to be true. The man certainly couldn’t have forked the country up more if he had been.
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between him and the Clinton's, I am halfway convinced that they have sold out to the Chinese. I have not a shred of proof but it seems there is a boatload of circumstantial evidence.


Archer2 said:
Truth? Maybe a third of our legislators on either side care about truth these days. They’ve morphed into our lords, earls, and barons, the America aristocracy. As far as they’re concerned, we can eat cake.
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that's so very true They no longer serve us, we serve them. We don't actually vote for the best representation, we vote to choose the overlords who might most often point in our direction. If that was not so, Congress would attack a good many fundamental issues that need addressing instead of striving to maintain the status quo, the path to Fat City that getting elected has been made by...Congress.
 
nctransplant said:
Wonder why Fauci, Cheney and the like got preemptive pardons if they did nothing wrong?
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This is beyond the pale. Biden's handlers have done this and they simply have no boundaries. How on earth can a pardon apply to a person that has not been convicted or charged with anything. Hell, they haven't even been investigated in a criminal sense as of yet. This, if Trump wants to pursue it, has to be unconstitutional. This could morph into a president the day before/day of leaving office issuing pardons for all actions of themselves, the vp, their staffs and so on. Not a road we should be going down.
 
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bluetoe said:
actually, it was true even before the sentencing, that he was convicted.
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Not gonna argue over this point as it was never about anything other than trying to use it against him in the election and they achieved that aspect of things. However, you are wrong on this aspect. The conviction does not occur until the second phase of trial which requires the sentencing to be announced and imposed. He was found "guilty" in the first phase, but conviction is different.
 
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pooponduke said:
This is beyond the pale. Biden's handlers have done this and they simply have no boundaries. How on earth can a pardon apply to a person that has not been convicted or charged with anything. Hell, they haven't even been investigated in a criminal sense as of yet. This, if Trump wants to pursue it, has to be unconstitutional. This could morph into a president the day before/day of leaving office issuing pardons for all actions of themselves, the vp, their staffs and so on. Not a road we should be going down.
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I'm sure our former board lefties could somehow justify it. They are masters of contorting something false into something true, in their eyes.
 
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pooponduke said:
Well, technically, now that he has been sentenced, he is a convicted felon. That wasn't the case before the sentencing which means before the election. Fortunately, it didn't matter to the voters who made it Too Big to Rig. What I want to see is how many of the name callers come and apologize when this entire case ultimately is overturned on appeal. I bet it's gonna be a big loud case of crickets.
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The felony charges are bogus, a local DA cannot charge Federal Election crimes...that is why the dirty judge dropped the punishment, since he would have opened himself up to Federal investigation by taking it to another level with jail or fines. They pretty much gave Trump a BS label with no ramifications.
 
pooponduke said:
Not gonna argue over this point as it was never about anything other than trying to use it against him in the election and they achieved that aspect of things. However, you are wrong on this aspect. The conviction does not occur until the second phase of trial which requires the sentencing to be announced and imposed. He was found "guilty" in the first phase, but conviction is different.
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yes and no. You are technically correct; but the vast majority of people, including many in the legal industry, consider one to be convicted on a finding of guilt alone, regardless of sentencing. There are also those who will argue that conviction doesn't occur until the appeal process is terminated, and as usual we devolve into semantics. You are correct though. But in the real world, if the average person told another average person that Trump was convicted upon being found guilty, the second average person would already have the same understanding. So I'll call it a de facto conviction and I won't argue beyond that; we're on the same side and we understand the situation for exactly what it is..

And what it is is taking the common understanding of conviction and making that sound like proof that Trump is a rotten human being, bent on breaking the law to his advantage.
 
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This is beyond the pale. Biden's handlers have done this and they simply have no boundaries. How on earth can a pardon apply to a person that has not been convicted or charged with anything. Hell, they haven't even been investigated in a criminal sense as of yet. This, if Trump wants to pursue it, has to be unconstitutional. This could morph into a president the day before/day of leaving office issuing pardons for all actions of themselves, the vp, their staffs and so on. Not a road we should be going down.
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get this. I just read that the crooked son-of-a-bitch pardoned his entire family, or at least those suspected of influence peddling. Now I REALLY want to hear from those who voted for him. I want them to explain how we just let the most obvious crook ever become president and take us for such a ride while half of us applauded the bastard and vowed to see him re-elected..

ETA...I hope there is a way that the Supremes get hold of this and at least expose the impropriety of it
 
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bluetoe said:
get this. I just read that the crooked son-of-a-bitch pardoned his entire family, or at least those suspected of influence peddling. Now I REALLY want to hear from those who voted for him. I want them to explain how we just let the most obvious crook ever become president and take us for such a ride while half of us applauded the bastard and vowed to see him re-elected..

ETA...I hope there is a way that the Supremes get hold of this and at least expose the impropriety of it
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The biden crime family took in $27M in bribes and did not report it and pay taxes.
 
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get this. I just read that the crooked son-of-a-bitch pardoned his entire family, or at least those suspected of influence peddling. Now I REALLY want to hear from those who voted for him. I want them to explain how we just let the most obvious crook ever become president and take us for such a ride while half of us applauded the bastard and vowed to see him re-elected..

ETA...I hope there is a way that the Supremes get hold of this and at least expose the impropriety of it
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He did in fact pardon the whole lot. I'd say our board libs were too embarrassed by this behavior to show their faces here but, I firmly believe they are too stupid and think this is OK. Plus the fact that they have no balls.
 
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He did in fact pardon the whole lot. I'd say our board libs were too embarrassed by this behavior to show their faces here but, I firmly believe they are too stupid and think this is OK. Plus the fact that they have no balls.
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and one of the excuses he gave was that an investigation alone can defame someone and ruin their life. Gee, really? Whatever gave him that idea? POS.
 
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I think at this point that anyone who says out loud that Trump is the threat to our democracy rather than those who pervert our justice system and obstruct the running of our country to its betterment, deserves a good punch in the piehole. I would say give them a lobotomy, but chances are they must already have had one.
 
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And did absolutely nothing to earn it.
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Well...biden did sell us out to Russia and China. He helped China own the EV parts market and was helping push EVs on us. He also eliminated oil sanctions on Iraq and Russia to fund their war machines. He is treasonous SOB.

Ironic how sanctions over Ukraine invasion did not impact "certain" russians...connected to biden and putin.
 
bluetoe said:
I think at this point that anyone who says out loud that Trump is the threat to our democracy rather than those who pervert our justice system and obstruct the running of our country to its betterment, deserves a good punch in the piehole. I would say give them a lobotomy, but chances are they must already have had one.
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I just came across left wing scum protesting near the White House, the usual low IQ trash that are insane.
 
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