OOTB's Political Thread . ..

[strummingram]

Well let's see, Trump has wiped out a year worth of gains in about 48 hours... So you've already got a lot of ground to cover just to get back to even.

Obviously anyone who doesn't want Trump jeopardizing their retirement accounts for his idiotic vanity project is just a "libtard with full-blown TDS."

Wealth protects itself, so wealthy people have nothing to worry about, as always. But the poor, middle class, even upper middle class could wind up in bread lines, and instead of admitting the source, the best thing to do would always be blaming other people for having TDS. It might even make the bread and soup fill you up better. "So what if we're living in drainage pipes! It's better than having tds!"

It's kind of like people that take a polio vaccine have PDS. Not quite, there's no vaccine for poverty.

At least gas prices are going to drop more.

 

[uncboy10]

Wealth protects itself, so wealthy people have nothing to worry about, as always. But the poor, middle class, even upper middle class could wind up in bread lines, and instead of admitting the source, the best thing to do would always be blaming other people for having TDS. It might even make the bread and soup fill you up better. "So what if we're living in drainage pipes! It's better than having tds!"

It's kind of like people that take a polio vaccine have PDS. Not quite, there's no vaccine for poverty.

At least gas prices are going to drop more.

Anyone with a majority of their wealth tied up in equities is exposed here. This wasn’t some knee jerk reaction, and I don’t see any real reason to believe this is going rebound quickly. Foreign indexes were already undervalued before this, I think a lot of investors will be moving their investments to the EU and in some cases China. Powell can’t just slash rates because it’s imperative to keep inflation minimized while a market is contracting because inflation compounds the problem.

“TDS” is just a convenient way for dumb people to never have to honestly engage with any criticism of this administration regardless of how legitimate it is.

 

[pooponduke]

Well let's see, Trump has wiped out a year worth of gains in about 48 hours... So you've already got a lot of ground to cover just to get back to even.

Obviously anyone who doesn't want Trump jeopardizing their retirement accounts for his idiotic vanity project is just a "libtard with full-blown TDS."

Look, I get the angst and I fully admitted above that this approach concerned me and that I truly hoped, for all of us, that it works spectacularly. However, just because you see everything with an orange tint such that when anything isn't glorious news, you overreact to a factor of ten, it doesn't mean the sky is falling.

The simple truth is that the market can gain all that back and more in relatively short order (some of the stuff I've read said the market was due for such a correction, they just didn't expect it to be as a result of Trump's new policies). That's the risk and reward of playing the market. But if someone is so worried about "jeopardizing their retirement accounts" they shouldn't have been in the market in the first place. Risk gets balanced depending on one's expected timetable. Having resets and setbacks comes with the territory.

Hypothetically speaking, lets suppose this actually works and a year from now the market has gained back everything lost and then some, and the economy is killing it such that 9 out of 10 dentists agree the market will continue to make gains in the short and long terms, are you gonna come back here and withdraw your comments admitting that you never saw that coming/that you were wrong?

Other than tds'ing and attacking him at every turn, I just don't understand the handwringing when he said upfront that there was gonna be some short term pain that we'd have to get through - isn't this exactly what he was talking about?

 

[pooponduke]

Wealth protects itself, so wealthy people have nothing to worry about, as always. But the poor, middle class, even upper middle class could wind up in bread lines, and instead of admitting the source, the best thing to do would always be blaming other people for having TDS. It might even make the bread and soup fill you up better. "So what if we're living in drainage pipes! It's better than having tds!"

It's kind of like people that take a polio vaccine have PDS. Not quite, there's no vaccine for poverty.

At least gas prices are going to drop more.

Nice to see you pop in. I guess the bball/HD discussion wasn't bad enough, lol.

 

[strummingram]

Nice to see you pop in. I guess the bball/HD discussion wasn't bad enough, lol.

HDDS

 

[pooponduke]

HDDS

That would actually be funny there, but some wouldn't take it as you meant it and get bent out of shape.

 

[strummingram]

“TDS” is just a convenient way for dumb people to never have to honestly engage with any criticism of this administration regardless of how legitimate it is.

I'm not sure they're dumb. But they are definitely committed to hating whatever liberal means, and whoever they believe personifies whatever liberal means. And apparently that is important. I see very intelligent people in all kinds of different cults. Once you're committed, it's hard to admit you could have ever been wrong.

I just find it interesting that three letters eases every person's conscience. It's pretty amazing. I'm almost envious in a way. Almost.

 

[bluetoe]

I'm not sure they're dumb. But they are definitely committed to hating whatever liberal means, and whoever they believe personifies whatever liberal means. And apparently that is important. I see very intelligent people in all kinds of different cults. Once you're committed, it's hard to admit you could have ever been wrong.

I just find it interesting that three letters eases every person's conscience. It's pretty amazing. I'm almost envious in a way. Almost.

this is where you're completely wrong. I hate nothing just because it's liberal, and I fully believe that most conservatives feel the same way. The fact is that a variety of outlooks is the spice of life, and life without spice is just dull. And the undeniable truth is, we don't learn from those who tell us what we already believe to be true...and there is no more rewarding human activity than learning.

But when a different viewpoint is labeled Nazism just because it doesn't concur with a sometimes nonsensical liberal POV, and one who maintains a different view is compared to Hitler, I have much disdain. It's in fact the intolerance of the left for a differing POV that I hate. I also hate the stupidity inherent in the closed-mindedness.

I had no problem with those who didn't want DJT to become president. I appreciate that they can freely make that choice because that means I am likewise free to make choices of my own. It's only when it's a two way street that it's tolerable and worthwhile. But when a differing outlook turns into obsessive obstructionism and hatred, TDS becomes an entirely appropriate and well-considered diagnosis.

See what's going on currently as an example.. Who seethes with irrational anger and hatred so much that just in order to vent unfounded resentment, the provider of what liberals (and myself) have seen as a solution to a pet cause is harassed and has his property and livelihood firebombed for doing what is beneficial to all of us. Yes I hate the resentment and the stupidity behind this, not because of any liberal way of seeing things, but because of the liberal intolerance for other ways of seeing things, even if only perceived.

You have a long way to go before you convince me that 'TDS' is a term expressing hatred and isn't rather a well-earned epithet.

 

[uncboy10]

I'm not sure they're dumb. But they are definitely committed to hating whatever liberal means, and whoever they believe personifies whatever liberal means. And apparently that is important. I see very intelligent people in all kinds of different cults. Once you're committed, it's hard to admit you could have ever been wrong.

I just find it interesting that three letters eases every person's conscience. It's pretty amazing. I'm almost envious in a way. Almost.

Maybe blind is a better word for it. Anyone outside of the cult can plainly see that he is incredible easy to criticize. His list of faults is endless. So the obvious strategy is to just pretend that anyone who criticizes him is just biased. It’s silly but here we are.

 

[bluetoe]

Well let's see, Trump has wiped out a year worth of gains in about 48 hours... So you've already got a lot of ground to cover just to get back to even.

Obviously anyone who doesn't want Trump jeopardizing their retirement accounts for his idiotic vanity project is just a "libtard with full-blown TDS."

'idiotic vanity project'. I'm in no position to say whether this is a huge mistake or is rather sheer genius which will pay dividends for the hopefully temporary drop in my investments; but as I said elsewhere, I am grateful that we have someone in office willing to take the heat for trying to correct a situation that needs correcting. It's ironic to idiotically call it an 'idiotic vanity project' and typifies the intolerance of the left that I referred to elsewhere.

You seem to think you know enough to already have determined the outcome. Of course that smacks of mild retardation, not to mention TDS. And you're obviously liberal. It isn't everyone concerned for his retirement money that's a libtard with full-blown TDS, but those libtards with full blown TDS are the ones who won't be around to own up to jumping the gun with their knee-jerk condemnation of what Trump tries to achieve for the benefit of us all.

 

[strummingram]

this is where you're completely wrong. I hate nothing just because it's liberal,

Bullshit

 

[strummingram]

Maybe blind is a better word for it. Anyone outside of the cult can plainly see that he is incredible easy to criticize. His list of faults is endless. So the obvious strategy is to just pretend that anyone who criticizes him is just biased. It’s silly but here we are.

I still believe that real wealth protects itself. Whoever is heavy in equities doesn't lose anything unless they sell. And, they're probably waiting for this to market to fall so they can buy more a lot cheaper than what was available Monday.

As far as Trump disciples... yes. I think it's kind of interesting to see it unfold in real-time. I think a lot of MAGA folks still have that conscience element somewhere in them that knows he's volatile, a crook, and just a bullshit artist. But... they really hate "liberal" a lot more. And, Trump is the antithesis to Liberal. Like I said, if it really goes into a longer tailspin and then a deep recession/depression occurs, they can't blame anything on Trump. It would be like blaming yourself (or themselves, in that case). Their identity is chained to this guy. I don't think it's ever happened in American history... quite like this. I'm sure FDR had a huge cult-like following. But, he was there to try and fix a legitimate economic disaster. Americans were starving, displaced and absolutely broke. That's not the case right now.

 

[bluetoe]

Bullshit

as I've told you before, I'd like to buy you for what you know, and then sell you for what you think you know.

I don't judge people for what they are, in spite of you needing to believe that in order to virtue-signal about it...rather, I judge people by what they do. You should try it.

 

[uncboy10]

So do the analysts at JP Morgan have TDS as well? They've bumped their odds of a global recession to 60% because of the Tariffs.

Thank goodness Trump had the courage to "correct" this situation! Lol

 

[uncboy10]

I still believe that real wealth protects itself. Whoever is heavy in equities doesn't lose anything unless they sell. And, they're probably waiting for this to market to fall so they can buy more a lot cheaper than what was available Monday.

As far as Trump disciples... yes. I think it's kind of interesting to see it unfold in real-time. I think a lot of MAGA folks still have that conscience element somewhere in them that knows he's volatile, a crook, and just a bullshit artist. But... they really hate "liberal" a lot more. And, Trump is the antithesis to Liberal. Like I said, if it really goes into a longer tailspin and then a deep recession/depression occurs, they can't blame anything on Trump. It would be like blaming yourself (or themselves, in that case). Their identity is chained to this guy. I don't think it's ever happened in American history... quite like this. I'm sure FDR had a huge cult-like following. But, he was there to try and fix a legitimate economic disaster. Americans were starving, displaced and absolutely broke. That's not the case right now.

Depends how liquid they are. Can't take advantage of falling prices and dollar cost average yourself down without selling existing positions, unless you're already cash rich or have liquidity in areas other than equities. In absolute terms, the wealthiest people are actually get hit the hardest because they're typically the ones that own the most. Valuations dropping also impact the borrowing power of these companies which slows growth and will impact the job market. That said, there are definitely some high profile fund managers who were ahead of this thing because they knew that Trump was a serious threat to the market. They will make a killing on the way down.

They will never blame this, or anything else on Trump. If the market crashes 50% they'll just claim that this has all been Biden's fault, and if it weren't from Trump it would be down even more. They can cry about "libtards" all they want but the finance world isn't exactly full of overemotional leftists, and pretty much everyone in that world is in agreement that this was incredibly stupid.

 

[strummingram]

They will never blame this, or anything else on Trump. If the market crashes 50% they'll just claim that this has all been Biden's fault, and if it weren't from Trump it would be down even more. They can cry about "libtards" all they want but the finance world isn't exactly full of overemotional leftists, and pretty much everyone in that world is in agreement that this was incredibly stupid.

I think crying "libtards" is more than enough for most people.

 

[strummingram]

as I've told you before, I'd like to buy you for what you know, and then sell you for what you think you know.

I don't judge people for what they are, in spite of you needing to believe that in order to virtue-signal about it...rather, I judge people by what they do. You should try it.

That's the most virtue-signaling virtue signal ever to be virtue-signaled!

 

[gunslingerdick]

My boyfriend’s back and we’re gonna be in trouble.

 

[uncboy10]

I think crying "libtards" is more than enough for most people.

Don’t forget about the immigrants! Lol they’re always pillaging and plundering

 

[bluetoe]

Don’t forget about the immigrants! Lol they’re always pillaging and plundering

they could be raping grandmothers by the hundreds on the sidewalks in major cities and as long as a dem president was responsible for letting them in you'd make light of that too. It's amazing what you're willing to step over on your way to vent some TDS.

 

[bluetoe]

They will never blame this, or anything else on Trump. If the market crashes 50% they'll just claim that this has all been Biden's fault, and if it weren't from Trump it would be down even more. They can cry about "libtards" all they want but the finance world isn't exactly full of overemotional leftists, and pretty much everyone in that world is in agreement that this was incredibly stupid.

oh boy, more irony from you. I'm 'crying libtard' because the TDS that you're exhibiting is founded on your being a liberal tard. I plainly explained that and you in your brilliance respond by displaying yet more TDS. Yes, you are a bright one.

lol, If you got a sandwich sign that said "LIBTARD with TDS" and walked around wearing it, that wouldn't make it any more apparent.

 

[bluetoe]

That's the most virtue-signaling virtue signal ever to be virtue-signaled!

not a virtue-signal, just an attempt to negate your mindless presumption. I know better than to try to out virtue-signal a supreme virtue-signaler such as you.

 

[bluetoe]

So do the analysts at JP Morgan have TDS as well? They've bumped their odds of a global recession to 60% because of the Tariffs.

Thank goodness Trump had the courage to "correct" this situation! Lol

nice link. Wonder what they said about jobs?

US added 228,000 jobs in March as economy showed strength in buildup to Trump trade wars

 

[strummingram]

I know better than to

 

[bluetoe]

wrong again. I have that on good authority...

 

[bluetoe]

the man says what he'll do and then he does what he says he'll do. Don't you just hate somebody like that...IF YOU ARE A LIBTARD?

 

[uncboy10]

 

[Archer2]

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Born in LA to parents in the industry. I know he’s unbiased.

 

[bluetoe]

Maybe blind is a better word for it. Anyone outside of the cult can plainly see that he is incredible easy to criticize. His list of faults is endless. So the obvious strategy is to just pretend that anyone who criticizes him is just biased. It’s silly but here we are.

so what if he's easy to criticize? I have no problem seeing that but I also have no problem seeing that he's just as easy to support. There's the rub. You and your ilk don't seek to simply criticize, you seek to crucify; and, It's apparently impossible for you to criticize constructively instead of personally and obstructively, and yes, without any built-in bias against him.

LMAO at you trying to deny your obvious bias which doesn't require any strategery to identify. and point out. It's simple observation. Talk about silly, but there you go.

 

[bluetoe]

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this is incredibly stupid. This guy confirms...he SAYS what I tried to get through those thick libtard skulls awhile back. Trump exaggerates...and as the man here says, he's not trying to deceive anyone with his disregard for the exact truth of the matter. Anyone with reasonable intelligence should easily see that these 'lies' are not meant by him to be taken seriously in and of themselves, but are rather a kind of way to impress on and emphasize any point he may be trying to make, as well as to generally puff himself up.. It's so simple to see and so completely harmless,

But that's where the stupidity comes in. This idiot, like the idiots here, tries to relate this pattern to fascism. He's saying that it's like some purposeful tactic when it's actually just a lifelong, gained habit of speech.. I have known a number of people who do pretty much the same thing and nobody thinks they are in the presence of the second coming of Hitler. As a matter of fact, it can be entertaining and carry quite a bit of charm unless you're that dolt just looking for a reason to cast aspersions. You know who you are, stop denying it. Not saying you're biased or anything though, No, not you. har har.

 

[uncboy10]

 

[Archer2]

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Are you so butthurt that like Maher you’re praying for a recession? I think you’re better than that, I hope so. I know many Dims aren’t.

 

[bluetoe]

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sorry, I didn't go past his saying 'cult'. I don't want to needlessly waste time listening to a video of idiocy when I can address the same idiocy more directly here.

 

[bluetoe]

Trump explained realistically and intelligently....

 

[pooponduke]

 

[bluetoe]

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"these leftists are insane"

Leftists do tend to harbor the TDS affliction, which they will usually deny suffering from. Many of those afflicted exhibit voluntary and involuntary antagonistic behavior that they will blame on external factors for which they are not responsible. Such denial itself may often be messaged antagonistically, most largely through social media, including so-called 'message boards'.

TDS has no organic origin, and those afflicted may indeed be considered to be mentally ill to a greater or lesser degree. Those driven to throwing rocks through the windshields of occupied vehicles and other acts of assault and destruction are criminally insane.

Most are able to limit their antagonistic behavior to groundless verbal assaults for which they should only be considered criminally obnoxious. although in large numbers they may be capable of non-violently obstructing societal needs and remedies.

TDS is at this time incurable but unfortunately for both the sufferer and the observer, not terminal.

 

[pooponduke]

"these leftists are insane"

Leftists do tend to harbor the TDS affliction, which they will usually deny suffering from. Many of those afflicted exhibit voluntary and involuntary antagonistic behavior that they will blame on external factors for which they are not responsible. Such denial itself may often be messaged antagonistically, most largely through social media, including so-called 'message boards'.

TDS has no organic origin, and those afflicted may indeed be considered to be mentally ill to a greater or lesser degree. Those driven to throwing rocks through the windshields of occupied vehicles and other acts of assault and destruction are criminally insane.

Most are able to limit their antagonistic behavior to groundless verbal assaults for which they should only be considered criminally obnoxious. although in large numbers they may be capable of non-violently obstructing societal needs and remedies.

TDS is at this time incurable but unfortunately for both the sufferer and the observer, not terminal.

“To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil.” — Charles Krauthammer

 

[bluetoe]

Charles Krauthammer

he was great. So was William Buckley. So is Thomas Sowell. Sowell is awesome.

 

[bluetoe]

“To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil.” — Charles Krauthammer

I love these. One of my favorites is the one usually attributed to Winston Churchill...

‘If You Are Not a Liberal When You Are Young, You Have No Heart, and If You Are Not a Conservative When Old, You Have No Brain’

 

[90sWoollenGymRat]

Let’s see. Foreign countries assess tariffs ranging from 10%-90% on goods imported from the USA. When we propose tariffs on their goods that are 50% what their tariffs are, we’re being unreasonable and cold hearted?

Can one of you Dims explain that pretzel logic?

They hate Trump, his supporters and this country. Anything good for the US is evil to them.