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Paige out 3-4 weeks with broken hand

Meta carpal is a hand bone not a finger...but I'm no orthopedist. Hope he heals fast.
 
heels05champs said:
Being the #1 seed in the Raleigh regional is crucial. We cannot afford to drop early season games with or without Paige.
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I posted before this happened that this was not the season to start slow or tinker. The lineup should have been a no-brainer and the rotation would evolve around it. That #1 seed you mentioned is nothing to sneeze at.

Now this... Damn.

Hope the guys, especially Joel B. put this on their shoulders to come out smokin' nonetheless and serve notice we're still #1 and we'll b****-slap anyone who sez otherwise.

In all seriousness, we've got the horses to weather this, but Roy needs to tell JB this is your car to drive. Get the ball where it needs to be, feed the Bigs (which is a given with him) and be aggressive with your own offensive game as well. Coach Carter @acarter0277 nailed it a while back when he said JB needs to play 25-30 min/game. That was true with MP healthy --- even more true now.
 
Remember when pj split his non shooting hand. Still knocked the bottom out of the nets. Different injury, but still his non shooting hand. Paige is a warrior. I doubt this will set him back much
 
looking at the scheduled games he will miss...i feel way more confident about losing marcus!!..we should win all of these games and not miss a beat...maryland would be real tough to beat if he's not ready by then..other than that,I think we'll be ok until his return and hold on to that #1 ranking!!
 
gary-7 said:
I posted before this happened that this was not the season to start slow or tinker. The lineup should have been a no-brainer and the rotation would evolve around it. That #1 seed you mentioned is nothing to sneeze at.

Now this... Damn.

Hope the guys, especially Joel B. put this on their shoulders to come out smokin' nonetheless and serve notice we're still #1 and we'll b****-slap anyone who sez otherwise.

In all seriousness, we've got the horses to weather this, but Roy needs to tell JB this is your car to drive. Get the ball where it needs to be, feed the Bigs (which is a given with him) and be aggressive with your own offensive game as well. Coach Carter @acarter0277 nailed it a while back when he said JB needs to play 25-30 min/game. That was true with MP healthy --- even more true now.
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I agree Gary. Just curious, who would you start with Paige out? Personally, I would have a back court of Berry and Pinson but based on Roy's history, I think he starts Berry and Britt. Either way, you and I are both really high on Joel Berry. It's time for Roy to hand him the keys and let him drive this team to a championship.
 
Dang! Paige deserves a break from these setbacks and so do we. Just like everyone else, I believe we can weather this just fine and I bet it would take tying him down to keep him out of the MD game too! I bet we see Britt and JB starting, and a generous helping of TP. The biggest benefit will be the increased minutes for KW in my opinion. JB, JJ, and TP on the perimeter is a scary, long, and athletic back-court that has to cause fear in opponents. JB, JJ, TP, Hicks, and Brice would be an awesome set that few could match up with and I believe we see more of it now. I always look on the bright side, but I'm tired of these dadgum injuries!

Get well soon young man, we are praying for you!
 
Get well soon Marcus! As others above have said, sucks to get bad news. I will say however that I would rather this happen now as opposed to in the middle of the season.
 
If I remember correctly, didn't Tyler miss the first 3-4 games in 2009 and we rolled? Similar team to that 09 team in terms of experience and I think it helped guys like Deon and Danny because they had to take on larger roles early. Certainly helped come March.

As Kendall tweeted, better now than March.
 
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dadika13 said:
If I remember correctly, didn't Tyler miss the first 3-4 games in 2009 and we rolled? Similar team to that 09 team in terms of experience and I think it helped guys like Deon and Danny because they had to take on larger roles early. Certainly helped come March.

As Kendall tweeted, better now than March.
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Yep, Tyler was held out for a few weeks due to a stress reaction in his leg. Think it ended up working out with Danny and Deon stepping up. Hopefully this will be Jackson's time to shine on offense and guys like Pinson and Berry can step up and help Brice carry the team until Paige gets back.
 
heels05champs said:
I agree Gary. Just curious, who would you start with Paige out? Personally, I would have a back court of Berry and Pinson but based on Roy's history, I think he starts Berry and Britt. Either way, you and I are both really high on Joel Berry. It's time for Roy to hand him the keys and let him drive this team to a championship.
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That is a good question. While Theo is worlds better, I suspect it will be Nate... but that is speculation.
It makes sense for season continuity. Assuming Berry/Paige was to be our backcourt, Theo was primarily gonna rotate in behind Jackson, and was likely to have gotten a few minutes at the 2 anyway. He would still do that in this scenario. Thus when Marcus steps back in at the 2 the rotation is essentially the same with Nate's minutes reduced back to what they would have been pre-injury.

Again that is speculation... still thinking like a coach ;).

On the other hand Roy could decide that if healthy, Theo's talent might prevail, plus it would be a chance for him to refine his perimeter game (which is his biggest deficit right now). I couldn't fault Roy on either course of action.

Now, this may surprise some on here, but I would personally lean to the first scenario... again for continuity sake.

Either way, as you said correctly, the one constant HAS to be turning the keys over to JB and keeping this machine running as planned.
 
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imajericho said:
Obviously he will be. He could probably play through the injury if he wanted to, but they are just being cautious. It is just a broken non-shooting hand finger.
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you have to catch the ball and your off hand is part of the shooting process I haven't seen a set shot in a long time. I am sorry but this is a worry that Paige and the team don't need.
 
gary-7 said:
That is a good question. While Theo is worlds better, I suspect it will be Nate... but that is speculation.
It makes sense for season continuity. Assuming Berry/Paige was to be our backcourt, Theo was primarily gonna rotate in behind Jackson, and was likely to have gotten a few minutes at the 2 anyway. He would still do that in this scenario. Thus when Marcus steps back in at the 2 the rotation is essentially the same with Nate's minutes reduced back to what they would have been pre-injury.

Again that is speculation... still thinking like a coach ;).

On the other hand Roy could decide that if healthy, Theo's talent might prevail, plus it would be a chance for him to refine his perimeter game (which is his biggest deficit right now). I couldn't fault Roy on either course of action.

Now, this may surprise some on here, but I would personally lean to the first scenario... again for continuity sake.

Either way, as you said correctly, the one constant HAS to be turning the keys over to JB and keeping this machine running as planned.
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Yep, agree with everything here.

If Theo wasn't coming off surgery, he'd be the no brainer to start at the 2. Roy has expressed all along that he's going to bring TP along slowly as he hasn't played a competitive game in a very long time. I see Nate taking the MP role and hopefully he steps up. I think TP will be forced into more minutes early than Roy would like but we won't go overboard. These games mean very little in the grand scheme this season.

I'd like to see KW get a shot at minutes as well. When the starters need a break maybe we see a Britt, Kenny, Theo, Hicks, James 2nd group.
 
dadika13 said:
Yep, agree with everything here.

If Theo wasn't coming off surgery, he'd be the no brainer to start at the 2. Roy has expressed all along that he's going to bring TP along slowly as he hasn't played a competitive game in a very long time. I see Nate taking the MP role and hopefully he steps up. I think TP will be forced into more minutes early than Roy would like but we won't go overboard. These games mean very little in the grand scheme this season.
I'd like to see KW get a shot at minutes as well. When the starters need a break maybe we see a Britt, Kenny, Theo, Hicks, James 2nd group.
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Yeah, I think KW gets a shot at more minutes than he would have... and again, even though some scoff, I hope SW gets the minutes behind JB, who will ideally be at 30+.
 
HeelFan58 said:
you have to catch the ball and your off hand is part of the shooting process I haven't seen a set shot in a long time. I am sorry but this is a worry that Paige and the team don't need.
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Well, it was erroneously reported as a finger before. Hence my comment.
 
gary-7 said:
That is a good question. While Theo is worlds better, I suspect it will be Nate... but that is speculation.
It makes sense for season continuity. Assuming Berry/Paige was to be our backcourt, Theo was primarily gonna rotate in behind Jackson, and was likely to have gotten a few minutes at the 2 anyway. He would still do that in this scenario. Thus when Marcus steps back in at the 2 the rotation is essentially the same with Nate's minutes reduced back to what they would have been pre-injury.
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I'd love to see Theo, Nate, and KW split the minutes at the 2 evenly. Give them all a fair shake at being first of the bench to give MP a breather once he's back. I, like you, believe that Theo has the most talent, and could be the best there - and I think we all wanna see what we have in Kenny. I think the development of those two will be much more crucial come March. Although, as you mentioned, Roy does give his upper classmen the nod (to a fault) - so we'll probably see majority Nate.

The notion of continuity that you bring up is interesting, and an angle that I (not being a coach) wouldn't have thought of at first - but it does make sense. That being said, I think I'd still prefer seeing what we have in Theo and Kenny while we have the chance. We already have a pretty good idea of what Nate brings to the table (and it's not something you want on the floor during crunch time of a sweet 16 matchup as we all saw).
 
Hark_The_Sound_2010 said:
I'd love to see Theo, Nate, and KW split the minutes at the 2 evenly. Give them all a fair shake at being first of the bench to give MP a breather once he's back. I, like you, believe that Theo has the most talent, and could be the best there - and I think we all wanna see what we have in Kenny. I think the development of those two will be much more crucial come March. Although, as you mentioned, Roy does give his upper classmen the nod (to a fault) - so we'll probably see majority Nate.

The notion of continuity that you bring up is interesting, and an angle that I (not being a coach) wouldn't have thought of at first - but it does make sense. That being said, I think I'd still prefer seeing what we have in Theo and Kenny while we have the chance. We already have a pretty good idea of what Nate brings to the table (and it's not something you want on the floor during crunch time of a sweet 16 matchup as we all saw).
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If Theo is up for it, I don't want to see them split minutes evenly. Once March comes along, the depth shrinks as no one runs out 10 guys in the tournament. We need our top 7 guys (JB, MP, JJ, BJ, KM, TP, IH) playing at a very high level. Could Kenny be the 8th guy? Maybe. What we know is that we will need Theo to shake off that rust of injury while he has a shot at extended minutes to help us come March.

If you have 40 minutes to split between the 3, I'd prefer to see Theo at 25, then Nate and KW split the other 15 depending on who is playing better.
 
The bottom line is that several guys stand to get increased minutes while Marcus is out(Joel, Nate, Theo, Kenny, and Stilman). We shall see who takes advantage of that extra PT. May end up being beneficial in the long run.
 
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G-7 hit the nail on the head. Put Nate in for MP and you get to keep your planned rotations intact AND you can keep TP on the planned schedule the training staff laid out to make sure he doesn't have a relapse. It is more important to bring TP along slowly than to take a chance in the early part of the season! I would rather you increase KW's minutes to give him live bullet time than to rush TP back.

BTW: we need to see for sure how tough our team is right now. MP's individual toughness is beynd question!

JB, NB, KM, JJ, BJ: This is our starting line up!
 
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Terrible luck for Marcus to have this derail the start of his senior year. However, as much as it sucks, if it had to happen I'll take it now rather than in March. I think this will force some of our supporting cast to put their big boy pants on and ultimately help us down the stretch. I see us taking a few bumps along the way and it will likely cause us to not hit our stride until later than we'd like but that's not necessarily a bad thing either. We will overcome.
 
gary-7 said:
Easy now . It's a finger and non-shooting. Much easier recovery than elsewhere in the hand.

But that being said: SON OF A B*******!!! DAMN IT.
We do NOT need this.........

A coach buddy asked me last week which player(s) we could absolutely not afford to lose.
I said, "That's easy: Marcus Paige or Joel Berry." We will not achieve our goals with either of them out for extended time.
Alright, deep breath --- better now than later. No reason to think he won't recover completely before Xmas.. This shouldn't be another Kenny Smith wrist situation.
Get well!
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I'm pretty sure it's his hand!
 
TPFKAPFS said:
G-7 hit the nail on the head. Put Nate in for MP and you get to keep your planned rotations intact AND you can keep TP on the planned schedule the training staff laid out to make sure he doesn't have a relapse. It is more important to bring TP along slowly than to take a chance in the early part of the season! I would rather you increase KW's minutes to give him live bullet time than to rush TP back.

BTW: we need to see for sure how tough our team is right now. MP's individual toughness is beynd question!

JB, NB, KM, JJ, BJ: This is our starting line up!
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Britt will be interesting to see with his shot having a year of work with the switch.
 
gary-7 said:
When I posted that the report was his finger. That report got amended, which you obviously saw ITT.
What's your issue?
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Meh, don't sweat the small stuff Gary, you've been on a roll with the info lately and if someone wants to nit-pick.... who cares as long as Marcus is healthy by March/April..... enough to play a Hand in UNC giving everyone the Finger
 
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gary-7 said:
When I posted that the report was his finger. That report got amended, which you obviously saw ITT.
What's your issue?
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^^^ What he said ! I know I don't need to vouch for gary but guys, gary is top shelf folks and loves the Tar Heel program and all he wants to do is share his thoughts and the occasional tidbit with fans just like himself. I for one really appreciate him and what he brings. He is an opinionated cuss like me and I love that in him! Only problem I have with him is he doesn't disagree with me enough to get in to a spirited debate! LOL
 
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About time, that moron chapped my ***! Only a pukie could use that level

The great news for us is that MP is a known quantity and we will have no chemistry issues when he returns. I hope it is closer to 3-4 weeks though. I some times disagree with G-7, but so far his info has been spot on and his fanhood seems beyond reporoach!

Go Tar Heels!
 
mikeirbyusa said:
That's enough of his junk. Bye bye.
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Damn Mike, sometimes you're so quick with the tombstone I miss out on seeing what they posted to earn it!
It's a bit like the freak show at a carnival. You don't really want to see the bull with two penis's but you just have to look.
All that said, I'm sure it was worth your swift intervention!
 
Ozheelfan said:
Damn Mike, sometimes you're so quick with the tombstone I miss out on seeing what they posted to earn it!
It's a bit like the freak show at a carnival. You don't really want to see the bull with two penis's but you just have to look.
All that said, I'm sure it was worth your swift intervention!
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Mikey is our hero... in more ways than one.
 
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