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[gunslingerdick]

But, Harvey isn't buddies with Trump, and wasn't buddies with him. What does Donald Trump even have to do with this?

It's a huge story getting tons of coverage. The list of alleged victims coming out is like Bill Cosby. This isn't going away anytime soon.

Entertainment "news" doesn't always impact our society like politics and government.

I don't know how else to say it. I've said it twice now. This story doesn't seem to be getting much coverage. If you feel different, then I guess you're listening/reading/watching different shit than I am. But TO ME, it's not getting the coverage it would if he was aligned with politicians on the right.

Jee-sus.

 

[tarheel0910]

I don't know how else to say it. I've said it twice now. This story doesn't seem to be getting much coverage. If you feel different, then I guess you're listening/reading/watching different shit than I am. But TO ME, it's not getting the coverage it would if he was aligned with politicians on the right.

Jee-sus.

Let me help you.

https://news.google.com/news/story/dBbuQzEbAEdjC7MCkzp70QANu2RzM?hl=en

 

[heelz2345]

Let's just say that if this fellow was buddies with Trump, there would be no one that could claim to be out of the loop. This story would be bigger than the moon landing. NBC might create a new news station just to cover it.

Well they better start working on the new NBC station then

 

[uncboy10]

I don't know how else to say it. I've said it twice now. This story doesn't seem to be getting much coverage. If you feel different, then I guess you're listening/reading/watching different shit than I am. But TO ME, it's not getting the coverage it would if he was aligned with politicians on the right.

Jee-sus.

Its pretty much been the top headline for the last news cycle. Aside from the SoS calling Trump a "****ing moron." I guess the persecution is coming from all sides now...

Then again you probably wouldn't expect fox news to spend too much time on a story like this. Might drag up too many painful memories.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Let me help you.
https://news.google.com/news/story/dBbuQzEbAEdjC7MCkzp70QANu2RzM?hl=en

Thanks! Now, let me help you.

http://amishrakefight.org/gfy/

 

[strummingram]

I'm not sure how you can be missing the coverage. It's totally hijacked this thread!

 

[gunslingerdick]

Then again you probably wouldn't expect fox news to spend too much time on a story like this. Might drag up too many painful memories.

Retarded logic. Fox News would be talking about this more than anyone.

 

[Littlejon]

It may not be getting the coverage it should, but I have a sneaky suspicion that what we see now is the tip of the iceberg for Hollywood scandals.

Remember a few years ago Corey Feldman talking about pedophiles in Hollywood being worse than anything else. He also said this directly contributed to Cory Haim's death. If Harvey and Cosby can get away with such stuff with adults for all this time, imagine how a pedophile could get away with their sick crap in a place like Hollywood. I mean, Sandusky was all but out in the open with his sick antics and had people look the other way or cover for him in Happy Valley. Hollywood is much bigger and has way more resources to sweep these things under the rug.

 

[gunslingerdick]

I'm not sure how you can be missing the coverage. It's totally hijacked this thread!

Yep. The only place I've seen it. I wouldn't have known about it otherwise.

 

[strummingram]

Let me help you.

https://news.google.com/news/story/dBbuQzEbAEdjC7MCkzp70QANu2RzM?hl=en

KellyAnne Conway is fighting for airspace in there. Let's remind everyone that her meal ticket beat Hillary Clinton a year ago.

 

[tarheel0910]

Then again you probably wouldn't expect fox news to spend too much time on a story like this. Might drag up too many painful memories.

They are covering it too. Including a top story about Clinton and Obama's relationship with him.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/1...n-new-questions-about-las-vegas-massacre.html

 

[strummingram]

Hollywood is much bigger and has way more resources to sweep these things under the rug.

Than?

Apparently the broom is worn down to the handle.

 

[uncboy10]

This Trump persecution complex has to be one of the funniest things that has ever come out of American politics. I wish people knew how fukkin stupid they look complaining about biased news coverage when he makes himself look a total moron on a daily basis.

We're now having a hypothetical discussion about hypothetical bias IF this story had somehow been linked to Trump. These people are bleeding credibility and they don't even realize it.

 

[heelz2345]

I've seen this story everywhere. In the wake of this story, I've seen stories of people lower down the Hollywood totem pole facing similar allegations (the creator of the Honest Trailers youtube channel, for one). It's been on social media, late night comedy shows (I know Seth Meyers for sure), and regular news channels. It's current front page on Yahoo, CNN, FoxNews, and potentially others (those were the only 3 I checked right now). Now it's possible you haven't seen it as much, but I personally have seen it all over the place.

 

[uncboy10]

They are covering it too. Including a top story about Clinton and Obama's relationship with him.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/1...n-new-questions-about-las-vegas-massacre.html

I know. I was making a joke about how Bill O'Reilly was a rapist POS.

But of course they are. Trump supporters complain about how this issue WOULD have been politicized if it was on the other side, while the right wing propaganda machine literally does the exact thing they are complaining about. Its actually hilarious watching this particular brand of stupidity.

 

[gunslingerdick]

I know. I was making a joke about how Bill O'Reilly was a rapist POS.

But of course they are. Trump supporters complain about how this issue WOULD have been politicized if it was on the other side, while the right wing propaganda machine literally does the exact thing they are complaining about. Its actually hilarious watching this particular brand of stupidity.

You're right. That never happened before Trump.

 

[uncboy10]

You're right. That never happened before Trump.

Your total lack of intellectual integrity is just amusing at this point.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Your total lack of intellectual integrity is just amusing at this point.

How so? Are you saying Trump supporters are the first to play that game? You're a child so I won't hold it against you for not knowing any better. You'll learn as you mature.

 

[tarheel0910]

I know. I was making a joke about how Bill O'Reilly was a rapist POS.

But of course they are. Trump supporters complain about how this issue WOULD have been politicized if it was on the other side, while the right wing propaganda machine literally does the exact thing they are complaining about. Its actually hilarious watching this particular brand of stupidity.

It's a bad argument for him to take on. A quick search shows that CNN, NYT, Boston Herald, Rolling Stone and multiple others are reporting on the Clinton/Obama connection. No one has ever accused that group of being Trump supporters.

 

[uncboy10]

How so? Are you saying Trump supporters are the first to play that game? You're a child so I won't hold it against you for not knowing any better. You'll learn as you mature.

Are you saying that only the first person to do something wrong should be held accountable? Your understanding of ethics is pathetic.

 

[strummingram]

Maybe it's because Harvey isn't as much of a face-recognized celebrity as Cosby... or Trump.

 

[uncboy10]

It's a bad argument for him to take on. A quick search shows that CNN, NYT, Boston Herald, Rolling Stone and multiple others are reporting on the Clinton/Obama connection. No one has ever accused that group of being Trump supporters.

Confirmation bias is a helluva drug. Every single poster on OOTB could refute his argument and he would just carry on making it. He takes pride in being the anti-intellectual court jester.

 

[strummingram]

Are you saying that only the first person to do something wrong should be held accountable? Your understanding of ethics is pathetic.

You mean the first one to get caught?

 

[gunslingerdick]

Are you saying that only the first person to do something wrong should be held accountable? Your understanding of ethics is pathetic.

Doing wrong is subjective. Ask @strummingram.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Every single poster on OOTB could refute his argument and he would just carry on making it. .

That does sound like me.

 

[Littlejon]

Than?

Apparently the broom is worn down to the handle.

Than Ped State, which is the reference I used. I used Ped State as the example of how easy it was to sweep Sandusky's crimes under the rug at little old Happy Valley, stating Hollywood was bigger and had more resources to sweep pedophilia under the rug.

IF the allegations of pedophilia in Hollywood being worse than this are true, it would be a much larger scandal. And while the broom handle may be worn down, they have plenty more industrial sized ones with the wrapper still on them!

 

[uncboy10]

That does sound like me.

Acceptance is the first step.

 

[strummingram]

Than Ped State, which is the reference I used. I used Ped State as the example of how easy it was to sweep Sandusky's crimes under the rug at little old Happy Valley, stating Hollywood was bigger and had more resources to sweep pedophilia under the rug.

IF the allegations of pedophilia in Hollywood being worse than this are true, it would be a much larger scandal. And while the broom handle may be worn down, they have plenty more industrial sized ones with the wrapper still on them!

Ohhhh, at PSU, gotcha. They did a pretty good job of it, for quite a while.

The casting couch has been around since casting began. I'm sure. Films and TV are such a dominant part of our culture, and the money and power it generates is always increasing, I'm sure this happens a lot, but I hope the severity of these kinds of scandals is few and far between. This Weinstein guy is pathological, apparently. His own brother, wife, have all abandoned him now. Of course, I wonder why it took it becoming public to precipitate that action. Surely all of these people were aware of it. Harvey's first wife knew it, evidently.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Acceptance is the first step.

Then when can we expect to hear about you joining anger management classes?

 

[Littlejon]

Ohhhh, at PSU, gotcha. They did a pretty good job of it, for quite a while.

The casting couch has been around since casting began. I'm sure. Films and TV are such a dominant part of our culture, and the money and power it generates is always increasing, I'm sure this happens a lot, but I hope the severity of these kinds of scandals is few and far between. This Weinstein guy is pathological, apparently. His own brother, wife, have all abandoned him now. Of course, I wonder why it took it becoming public to precipitate that action. Surely all of these people were aware of it. Harvey's first wife knew it, evidently.

Oh, they had to know. Just like people around Sandusky knew. People are saying it has been an open secret in Hollywood for years that Harvey was a perv and there was even a joke about it at some awards show several years ago. People know these things go on, just like people knew Cosby was slipping mickeys to women, Jerry was raping kids and most likely which pervs in Hollywood are just as bad - and worse - than Harvey.

It will be interesting to see if anyone comes forward, though. Hollywood is filled with people desperate to make it in entertainment and there are no telling how many are already damaged emotionally before they ever get there. It is a veritable predator paradise. Rich, powerful, ego-maniacal power brokers who can make or break you, vulnerable, attention starved and desperate kids and plenty of opportunity. The perfect storm for this kind of thing and worse.

A lot of the victims are likely too scared to say anything because they aren't stars and are beholden to these guys to make it.

 

[uncboy10]

Then when can we expect to hear about you joining anger management classes?

Sometime after we lose to WCU in football

 

[TarHeelMark]

Maybe it's because Harvey isn't as much of a face-recognized celebrity as Cosby... or Trump.

True. I had honestly never heard of the dude until now.

 

[strummingram]

True. I had honestly never heard of the dude until now.

He's a pretty influential guy, he and his brother. Their film "empire" is massive. Miramax, Disney, etc..

 

[UNC71-00]

Oh, they had to know. Just like people around Sandusky knew. People are saying it has been an open secret in Hollywood for years that Harvey was a perv and there was even a joke about it at some awards show several years ago. People know these things go on, just like people knew Cosby was slipping mickeys to women, Jerry was raping kids and most likely which pervs in Hollywood are just as bad - and worse - than Harvey.

It will be interesting to see if anyone comes forward, though. Hollywood is filled with people desperate to make it in entertainment and there are no telling how many are already damaged emotionally before they ever get there. It is a veritable predator paradise. Rich, powerful, ego-maniacal power brokers who can make or break you, vulnerable, attention starved and desperate kids and plenty of opportunity. The perfect storm for this kind of thing and worse.

A lot of the victims are likely too scared to say anything because they aren't stars and are beholden to these guys to make it.

Hollywood did know. Hell, it was a specific joke on 30Rock (underrated show).

People are generally intimidated by those who are perceived to be more powerful.

 

[UNC71-00]

The real villain in this was the NYT. How many women were sexually assaulted by Harvey AFTER the NYT agreed not to run the story over 10 years ago?

 

[coryfly]

I think this dude has gotten quite a bit of coverage considering no one really knows who the heck he is. I had never heard of him until this but have heard of him plenty now (and I don't even watch much news at all). I agree that perverts and idiots on the right get more coverage when they screw up but not by much. It is more about how recognizable someone is than anything else IMO.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

I really don't understand @Hark_The_Sound_2010 and your thinking behind this. It's been one of the biggest stories since the news broke. CNN put out an article yesterday asking why Clinton and Obama haven't said anything yet since he was a donor. You guys aren't really paying attention on this one.

I was referring to being discussed on this board, but I see from all the "ARE YOU BLIND ITS EVVVVRYWHERE!!1!!!1" poasts that I wasn't very clear... my bad. I figured someone would have started a thread on him by now, given pence got one for his stunt, and imagine if an equivalent big wig Trump donor did the same, that he would have one on here.

I would have started a thread, but starting threads isn't really my bag. Easier to just hijack them.

I'm not sure how you can be missing the coverage. It's totally hijacked this thread!

Excellent.

 

[BillyL]