PG problems.
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We've tried him. He's not good at it. There's a reason he has basically only played it at the end of blowouts. He doesn't dribble well against defensive pressure. He doesn't make good outlet passes. He doesn't see the floor the well. He ignores open players in both the halfcourt and on fast breaks. He doesn't run the offense well or generate easy opportunities for his teammates.
For whatever reason, some of our fans forget that we have 6 coaches that watch these players every day in practice. This reminds me of the "why isn't James Brown playing more" questions. If Trimble was a viable option at point guard, he'd be playing more at that role. Just because a couple recruiting analysts labeled him a PG, that doesn't mean he is one. You may notice Rivals listed him as a SG.
Seth absolutely should have been made a PG for us as a freshman, he was dazzling to me in high school but from day 1 Hubert moved him off the ball, now even starting him at the 4? It is to late to turn that clock back now, gone is 3 seasons of handling the ball both in games as well as skill work. So we now are in need of a portal PG because Seth was not groomed as a point. Gary's BP just rose 20pts when I said that! LOL
guys, as bad as we are, we have to stop trying to make or portray players to be better than they are. Seth is a good athlete, which makes him a good defender. Outside of that, he's average at best in terms of UNC talent level traditionally. He's not a PG, he's not a SG. He's too small to be anything outside of those 2, and arguably, when looking at both, he's below average in the most important attribute we look for in those positions. He's a below average ball handler (PG), and a below average shooter (SG).
I strongly disagree, if anything Seth is greatly under valued unless your gauge of a player is limited to how many points he scores. I see him as a better version of Kenny Williams and I always felt Kenny was a really good player for us.
And note, since we have in fact seen Trimble play point guard during games this season, that means he has in fact been practicing at PG during UNC practices. Which means he has gotten all the point guard skill work and been given the opportunity to show all the UNC coaches what he's capable of.
He just isn't a point guard. Or really a SG either. He's an athlete that shies away from contact at the rim and prefers missing acrobatic layups instead. He's a guard shooting worse from 2pt and 3pt range than Cadeau on the season. He's a guy who struggles dribbling against ball pressure, and has routinely missed wide open teammates on fast breaks and in the halfcourt. His lack of height has made it easier for wings to shoot over him. The positives he brings to the team are his on ball defense (which is outstanding) and his rebounding (tremendous given his size).
When you evaluate him purely on what he has shown on the court, you realize he's a glue guy. He's probably better suited in a 6th man role to come in and provide defensive energy. He's not a guy you can ask to create buckets for himself or his teammates. He's not a guy you can rely on to knock down the open shots a true point guard creates. He's definitely not the guy to run the offense or create shots for others.
He just isn't a point guard. Or really a SG either. He's an athlete that shies away from contact at the rim and prefers missing acrobatic layups instead. He's a guard shooting worse from 2pt and 3pt range than Cadeau on the season. He's a guy who struggles dribbling against ball pressure, and has routinely missed wide open teammates on fast breaks and in the halfcourt. His lack of height has made it easier for wings to shoot over him. The positives he brings to the team are his on ball defense (which is outstanding) and his rebounding (tremendous given his size).
When you evaluate him purely on what he has shown on the court, you realize he's a glue guy. He's probably better suited in a 6th man role to come in and provide defensive energy. He's not a guy you can ask to create buckets for himself or his teammates. He's not a guy you can rely on to knock down the open shots a true point guard creates. He's definitely not the guy to run the offense or create shots for others.
Seth isn't a PG. I argue he's had the improved season in part because he hasn't had to play PG this season. He's a wing and a good one at that. But I also think he's realistically a 4th if not 5th option on a Final Four caliber team. I think of him more as a modern day D-stopper where he can still do a few things well enough to contribute offensively.
Given the fact that a blind man can see our rotations are garbage. I don’t give any credit to the coaching staff we currently have on retainer. You described Rj Davis career when he’s playing pg. I don’t know when we ever tried him there. He didn’t get time with Caleb and Rj, or Ec and Rj. So please tell me when we tried it?
Just this season Trimble has played point guard when Davis was hurt with his back injury, in games when both Cadeau and Davis were in foul trouble, and at the end of blowouts.
Your inability to notice when Trimble is playing point guard, and your inability to evaluate what you've seen him do on the court, likely means you know a lot less about basketball than the 6 coaches on UNC's staff that watch Trimble practice playing point guard every day in practice.
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Agreed, I think he is a good 6th man athlete/dee type. A pretty dang good fit for a team like Houston. For UNC and it's roster, he's not a good 2 guard option, and a bad PG option anywhere.
it’s not a knock on him, but an assessment of where he fits as a PG or SG. he’s not really either. he’s a position less athlete that is undersized. he’s better suited for a 6-8 man type role, not a prominent one. when you have players like this in the top half of your rotation you are a double digit loss team consistently.
