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Put the ACC tournament back in Greensboro for good

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Maybe it was a good idea once to rotate the tournament at one time but seeing all of this snow in Brooklyn has closed that idea for me. Greensboro is about as central in the ACC as possible so it makes no sense to play musical chairs anymore.
 
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It should never be held in nyc ever again

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Some of us don't live in NC & don't agree all tourneys should be played in NC. I personally think the tournament should change locations. Those locations should be based on the number of teams in each state. For example, NC has four teams, FL & VA have 2 each, while the other schools are the only ACC team in their respective states. To me, NC should host twice as many tourneys as FL & VA & four times as many as the other states. FL & VA should host two tourneys for every tourney in NY/NJ, GA, Indiana, etc. I realize Greensboro & Charlotte are great for the fans that live in NC & my thoughts won't be popular here, but there are many fans of UNC & other NC schools that don't live in NC. In my ideal world, I'd like to see all tourneys played in FL, but that wouldn't be right either. I don't think any state should have sole rights to the tourney.
 
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Honestly I’m happy with whatever location helps the Heels win it.
I can watch on TV.
I understand that argument, but if the NC schools need to play in Greensboro or Charlotte to win, they might as well not show up for the NCAA tourney. I'd be with the rest of you, if we could demand that all our post season games be played in NC. That's not reality. You have to be able to win in any location to win it all. Tar Heel fans travel well. I have no doubt we'll be well represented, regardless of where we play.
 
The acc was founded in nc. The acc headquarters are in nc. Us oldtumers want the tourney in nc
I'm guessing you live in NC. Where the ACC was founded is no longer relevant. We have a totally different ACC now. I'd love for the ACC to go back to pre-expansion days. In order to have that, I'd be more than happy to have all the games played in Greensboro. That's not happening. Those days are long gone. We have to deal with the ACC we have now & things have changed.
 
I'm guessing you live in NC. Where the ACC was founded is no longer relevant. We have a totally different ACC now. I'd love for the ACC to go back to pre-expansion days. In order to have that, I'd be more than happy to have all the games played in Greensboro. That's not happening. Those days are long gone. We have to deal with the ACC we have now & things have changed.
All they need to do is looj at the crapy attendance qhen it isnt in nc to see qhy it needs to be in nc
 
All they need to do is looj at the crapy attendance qhen it isnt in nc to see qhy it needs to be in nc
I'm the first person to agree that NJ isn't a good location for the tourney. The weather is iffy & many fans don't want to travel there. That said, there are many locations outside NC that could fill a coliseum the size of Greensboro's. Saying the seats aren't filled in a larger coliseum isn't a fair comparison. Again, I agree that Barclay's isn't a larger coliseum & they shouldn't get the tournament more often than 1 in 15 years. IMO, the tournament sites should be determined by number of teams in each state.

There would be a great turnout for the tourney in FL, SC, GA & most likely Indiana & VA. That doesn't mean the teams from other states & their fans should always have to travel to the tourney every year.They shouldn't host the tourney as often as NC does, but some of us don't agree that NC is the only place for the ACC tourney. The argument to always host the tourney in Greensboro is self serving for those who live in NC & nothing more. FWIW, I wouldn't feel differently, if the tournament was always in NJ, FL or VA. It isn't all about what's convenient for fans in NC. There are fans of all teams that would like to have a chance to see the games in person not just watch them on TV.
 
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I'm the first person to agree that NJ isn't a good location for the tourney. The weather is iffy & many fans don't want to travel there. That said, there are many locations outside NC that could fill a coliseum the size of Greensboro's. Saying the seats aren't filled in a larger coliseum isn't a fair comparison. Again, I agree that Barclay's isn't a larger coliseum & they shouldn't get the tournament more often than 1 in 15 years. IMO, the tournament sites should be determined by number of teams in each state.

There would be a great turnout for the tourney in FL, SC, GA & most likely Indiana & VA. That doesn't mean the teams from other states & their fans should always have to travel to the tourney every year.They shouldn't host the tourney as often as NC does, but some of us don't agree that NC is the only place for the ACC tourney. The argument to always host the tourney in Greensboro is self serving for those who live in NC & nothing more. FWIW, I wouldn't feel differently, if the tournament was always in NJ, FL or VA. It isn't all about what is convenient for a few team's fan base.
They should never consider even having it in indiana. Not u till nd becomes a full member of the confrence in every sport
 
They should never consider even having it in indiana. Not u till nd becomes a full member of the confrence in every sport
As a Tar Heel fan, I'm good with that. Then again, I'm good with all tourneys being hosted in NC & FL, but that's self serving on my part. I can't convince myself that's fair though. You'd have to ask ND fans how they feel about the tourney being hosted in Indiana once every 15 years.
 
Montana would work! Seriously. ACC tournament is on my bucket list but I'm not going until is is in North Carolina. 2019 or 2020.
 
I lived in NYC in the past and will be doing so again, so I selfishly hope it's played in NYC frequently. :p

Tons of Heels fans/alum there as well. Of course it's all for money and exposure anyways.
 
Greensboro, Atlanta, Greensboro, Charlotte, Greensboro, Tampa, Greensboro

7 year stretch. Every other year in Greensboro
Substitute another location for Charlotte & I'm with you. Greensboro & Charlotte are technically the same. Yes, I grew up in NC & know all about Greensboro & Charlotte. It's still two NC locations that aren't that far apart. Add a NY/NJ location in place of Charlotte & you might have a chance to win that argument.

As long as Tampa is included, I'm good with that. It's not all about me though. Those who are pushing for the tourney to be in NC all the time, aren't living in reality. We have to accept that the ACC has changed. NC teams don't dominate the conference. There are many more teams outside of NC. We need to focus on getting the tournament out of NY/NJ on a regular basis. If there isn't a solution that includes the tourney being hosted there on occasion, we aren't going to win that battle. I'm afraid the tourney will eventually move to NJ permanently, if there isn't a better solution. The ACC as a whole needs to come up with a viable solution for all the teams.

As we saw tonight, the Heels don't have to play in NC to win. Fans need to give up on the NC or bust attitude. We need to fight for the tourney to be shared based on the number of teams in each state or we may have to accept all games being played in NY/NJ.
 
Just kick out from the ACC all the teams that are not in NC, VA, or within a 4 hour drive and I would be pleased. Oh it hurts so much to think of how good the ACC and the tournament was before we let everyone from anywhere in just for the sake of money. Now go ahead and take your shots at me. Yes, I'm old but on the other hand I know how wonderful the ACC from 20 years ago was.
 
Just kick out from the ACC all the teams that are not in NC, VA, or within a 4 hour drive and I would be pleased. Oh it hurts so much to think of how good the ACC and the tournament was before we let everyone from anywhere in just for the sake of money. Now go ahead and take your shots at me. Yes, I'm old but on the other hand I know how wonderful the ACC from 20 years ago was.

I'm with you, except for excluding FSU. We live very close to UM, but I agree that the expansion ruined the conference, as far as basketball was concerned. I want to keep one FL school in the conference for selfish reasons. UNC fans always represent at FSU. It's almost like we're the home team. We try to represent at UM games, but there doesn't appear to be as many Heels fan that are willing to travel down here.
 
I think any of us old enough to remember when the tournament champions were the only ones going to the big dance probably have the most fond memories of the good old days. ACC tournament was special and it meant something. Teams knew they had to play hard and some of the best basketball I ever witnessed was at the ACC tournament. Granted, living close enough to go to the tournament when t was in Greensboro made it better for me personally, but I also recognize times change.

I completely get why the ACC expanded and where. I don’t necessarily agree with it, but it is what it is and that ain’t changing anytime soon. So, what to do? For me, since NC is more geographically centered, it makes the most sense to host the majority of tournaments. Obviously the outside teams joined with the understanding that there would be spreading of wealth, so we can’t completely ignore other areas, but I like the idea above of hosting sites and years based on teams in an area. With more NC teams, NC should get most of the tournaments, NY and FL the least, but not ignored. The argument could be made for Charlotte being the site for Clemson since SC really doesn’t have a great place to host, but otherwise all states have at least one place that could and I am ok with going to them some, but I agree that NC is the home of the ACC and should host the tournament more than any other place I can’t wait for it to come back to Greensboro, personally
 
Just read a bit on all the conf tourneys. Seems most have a reasonable geographic center and site for a tourney and all conferences seem to be rotating them through several cities/sites. Not everyone is happy. For us in the ACC UM, ND and BC travel a great deal more in distance than any other schools in the ACC. It is about the $$$ and spreading the wealth. That may change as some schools travel well (fans) and some don't. Lots of empty seats at Barclays. Let's see what it looks like tonight. Even heard the "Tar - Heel" call/response last night, almost sounded like a home game.
 
I'm guessing you live in NC. Where the ACC was founded is no longer relevant. We have a totally different ACC now. I'd love for the ACC to go back to pre-expansion days. In order to have that, I'd be more than happy to have all the games played in Greensboro. That's not happening. Those days are long gone. We have to deal with the ACC we have now & things have changed.

I realize that these days are past, but the idea of holding all tournaments in Greensboro/Charlotte isn't just because it's closest to the most # of teams, it's because a single location allows the tournament to develop an identity.

If we have to go to multiple locations, I'd agree with the alternating
Greensboro
Greensboro
Tampa/Orlando
Charlotte
Atlanta
Greensboro
Greensboro
Tampa/Orlando
Charlotte
DC/Baltimore
Greensboro
Greensboro
NY/Boston
Greensboro
Greensboro
Tampa/Orlando
etc.
 
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It seems odd to me that 3 of the P5 conferences (Big East, Big 10, ACC) have their tourney titles, all in NYC area, in the same year. That is why the Big 10 had to play so early. I can't recall what NY team is in the big 10? Rutgers?

Do they (NCAA / conferences / schools) really generate more (TV / media) money somehow having these tourneys in NYC area, vs. fan attendance at say Chicago or Indy for Big 10; North Carolina (or anywhere along the southern Atlantic coast) for ACC - compared to NYC where it is a major, expensive trip to attend the tourney?

Seems really dumb, bad decision, not at all benefiting the teams, coaches, or fans - at all.
 
I'm fine with having it in NC every year (but realize that won't happen due to money and fairness concerns), but Greensboro is a pain in the ass to get to for anyone outside of NC. Raleigh and Charlotte would be better locations to facilitate traveling from out of state.
 
I'm fine with having it in NC every year (but realize that won't happen due to money and fairness concerns), but Greensboro is a pain in the ass to get to for anyone outside of NC. Raleigh and Charlotte would be better locations to facilitate traveling from out of state.
Good point.

I don't live in NC, but visit there often.
To hear some people on this board, you'd need a horse or pickup truck to get to Raleigh. :) Or maybe that's just the students that attend, not so much a reflection on the city.
 
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All great points. Greensboro is a cluster to get to from out of state. There’s rarely direct flights into greensboro and connections are scarce. I don’t think you take it out of the mix for the legacy purposes but do think Charlotte and Atlanta are great places to have it. Tampa is also good but kinda like NYC, I think it loses something by being there.
 
I may be the minority but Atlanta has always been a fun tourney experience for me and my family.
 
All I'll say is that it was packed when I went last year and the energy was great.

I'm going again tomorrow night pending a Heels victory and I expect the same. I know the NC crowd would like it down there (and our Heels would also) but hard to argue with the revenue.
 
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