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It's about not wanting someone who has lacked good moral judgment so badly that they have fuked 20, 30, 40, 50 men. How I see it is, if you decide to sleep around with reckless abandon, you are disrespecting your one-day future wife that you will meet months or years later. You will have to look her in the eye and feel bad because you regret giving yourself away so many times before her to women who didn't deserve what she [your wife] deserves.

Geeze, did I step into an after school special?

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Ok, so why not just ask other people what they are thinking? You did to start this thread and it went fine for a while until the assumptions started rolling in from you and Strum.



Have you ever just asked a dude "do you ever feel like trying something new in bed?" or "hey- I would like to try that! (while pointing at an article in Cosmo or something in a movie or whatever) Or better yet, have you ever just tried it? But I am confident that if you lead with "I'm bored" you are going to get an answer you don't like.

But yes, in life, whether it is sex, sports, parenting, business, life, spirituality or anything else, the ones who talk about how good they are tend to be the most insecure, and it is tough to do anything well without confidence.

No, I guess I wasn't clear on that. I have never told a guy I was bored. I meant when I WAS bored and wanted to suggest trying something new so they would not think I was suggesting it out of boredom, they would get all ego hurt with stuff like "did you do that with your last BF?" or some stupid thing like that. I have no problem trying subtle persuasion and doing things very spontaneous but some just take things the wrong way or must think about it later and want to know why I tried whatever it was...Men ARE very sensitive when it comes to sex and you know it. If yall knew we faked about half the orgasms, would you want to know that??? NO you wouldn't! lol but sometimes we do.. doesn't mean the sex wasn't good, it just means sometimes it is not the most important part of it for us.
 
No, I guess I wasn't clear on that. I have never told a guy I was bored. I meant when I WAS bored and wanted to suggest trying something new so they would not think I was suggesting it out of boredom, they would get all ego hurt with stuff like "did you do that with your last BF?" or some stupid thing like that. I have no problem trying subtle persuasion and doing things very spontaneous but some just take things the wrong way or must think about it later and want to know why I tried whatever it was...Men ARE very sensitive when it comes to sex and you know it. If yall knew we faked about half the orgasms, would you want to know that??? NO you wouldn't! lol but sometimes we do.. doesn't mean the sex wasn't good, it just means sometimes it is not the most important part of it for us.

This is all true. So if you want him to slide it in the back door, you need to come up with a way to make him think it was his idea.
 
Where did I ever say that females shouldn't like sex as much as males? In fact, where did I poast anything remotely close to that?

I think I got that from when you said it's perfectly normal for boys to want to get laid as often as possible but that the kind of behavior is unusual for girls. Maybe "unusual" was taken wrong.

And, a woman who has had sex with 100 men doesn't lack morals, or moral judgment. She just has a different set of moral parameters. Morality, once again, is just stuff people make up based on their world view. It's relative, not universal. What one finds immoral, another finds to be perfectly acceptable.
 
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The notion that they are the only ones participating, because they conceded to let you inside is an interesting take.

I don't think anyone is saying that women are the only ones participating, clearly both parties are participating. But I, and maybe some others, feel that for the most part females are the ones that are deemed slutty or not worthy of getting "wifed up" with if they have a lot of partners. Sure I mean guys can be labeled sluts too - but the amount of partners needed to be had to get labeled a slut is much much higher for guys than for girls. Yes I realize that's a double standard. That is probably the only opinion that I've shared on this board that I feel like I'm probably "in the wrong" about, but I don't care. The OP was asking me what my feelings were on the topic, so I shared them.

But hey, now I now how you, Chick, and uncboy feel - by expressing an opinion that I know is wrong and that I can't factually back up, but I decide to stick to my guns anyways even though I know I'm wrong for feeling that way.
 
I don't think anyone is saying that women are the only ones participating, clearly both parties are participating. But I, and maybe some others, feel that for the most part females are the ones that are deemed slutty or not worthy of getting "wifed up" with if they have a lot of partners. Sure I mean guys can be labeled sluts too - but the amount of partners needed to be had to get labeled a slut is much much higher for guys than for girls. Yes I realize that's a double standard. That is probably the only opinion that I've shared on this board that I feel like I'm probably "in the wrong" about, but I don't care. The OP was asking me what my feelings were on the topic, so I shared them.

But hey, now I now how you, Chick, and uncboy feel - by expressing an opinion that I know is wrong and that I can't factually back up, but I decide to stick to my guns anyways even though I know I'm wrong for feeling that way.
So, you're okay with the double standard, too. Gotcha!
 
What one finds immoral, another finds to be perfectly acceptable.

Sure. But my decision on who I would and wouldn't marry should probably be based on my own definition of immoral, not someone else's, right? And it's not really a moral thing to me anyways. It's just that I don't want to be the 51st guy in on the party.

So, don't have too much sex with your wife or girlfriend. You're bringing her resale value down.

See, the thing about this is that I don't get any benefit if the resale value is any good. In fact, I'd probably prefer it to be as low as possible and get the most mileage out of it myself.

So, you're okay with the double standard, too. Gotcha!

Yes. Glad we cleared that one up.
 
Sure. But my decision on who I would and wouldn't marry should probably be based on my own definition of immoral, not someone else's, right? And it's not really a moral thing to me anyways. It's just that I don't want to be the 51st guy in on the party.



See, the thing about this is that I don't get any benefit if the resale value is any good. In fact, I'd probably prefer it to be as low as possible and get the most mileage out of it myself.



Yes. Glad we cleared that one up.
You are entitled to your own morality, yes! Absolutely!
 
Sure. But my decision on who I would and wouldn't marry should probably be based on my own definition of immoral, not someone else's, right? And it's not really a moral thing to me anyways. It's just that I don't want to be the 51st guy in on the party.

Don't get me wrong Hark- I know where you are coming from and I get what you are saying. This is 45 year old me trying to give advice to 27 year old me.

And here's the advice: don't ask.

Because if she clears every other hurdle, then knocking her out because her number is too high for you would be an injustice to you. So just assume the number is right where you want it and roll. Furthermore, the number she tells you will be a lie, so there's no way to know anyways. And finally, just because a chick threw the cat around in high school or 10 years ago, it has nothing to do with how she views sex with you.

Also, I am assuming by clearing every other hurdle, you will discover if she really has nailed WAY too many guys. It will come out in conversation somewhere. And at that point, you can part ways if it is still important.
 
Don't get me wrong Hark- I know where you are coming from and I get what you are saying. This is 45 year old me trying to give advice to 27 year old me.

And here's the advice: don't ask.

Because if she clears every other hurdle, then knocking her out because her number is too high for you would be an injustice to you. So just assume the number is right where you want it and roll. Furthermore, the number she tells you will be a lie, so there's no way to know anyways. And finally, just because a chick threw the cat around in high school or 10 years ago, it has nothing to do with how she views sex with you.

Also, I am assuming by clearing every other hurdle, you will discover if she really has nailed WAY too many guys. It will come out in conversation somewhere. And at that point, you can part ways if it is still important.

Hmm, who knew this board could offer solid life advice - and not just some response that I'm stupid for feeling the way I do? Thanks, I appreciate it.

And yes - I know better than to ask.
 
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Happy to take y'alls money.

And I concur with 71, don't ask. It's just easier. And like he said, you'll figure out on your own if she was or is a sloot. If she let's you take her upstairs on the first date but claims "I usually never do this!", just tell yourself you're the fuggin boss and don't worry if she's lying or not.
 
I don't think anyone is saying that women are the only ones participating, clearly both parties are participating. But I, and maybe some others, feel that for the most part females are the ones that are deemed slutty or not worthy of getting "wifed up" with if they have a lot of partners. Sure I mean guys can be labeled sluts too - but the amount of partners needed to be had to get labeled a slut is much much higher for guys than for girls. Yes I realize that's a double standard. That is probably the only opinion that I've shared on this board that I feel like I'm probably "in the wrong" about, but I don't care. The OP was asking me what my feelings were on the topic, so I shared them.

But hey, now I now how you, Chick, and uncboy feel - by expressing an opinion that I know is wrong and that I can't factually back up, but I decide to stick to my guns anyways even though I know I'm wrong for feeling that way.

I don't have a problem with your opinion or any of them. I was just curious if there would be some that didn't have the typical double standard. I respect anyone who states their truth.
 
Oh, and another burr for the winner's saddles:

When you say shit like "What she did before I met her is none of my business." Technically, you're right. But, the truth is, if you KNEW what she did, you'd have to deal with it and- as has been abundantly proven- you'd probably never get past it if it included a departure from your version of acceptable morality. Heaven forbid she was in an orgy. Reminds me of Holden McNeil in Chasing Amy (another tip-of-the-hat to Kevin Smith). He had no problem knowing the love of his life was in an all-girl orgy, and allegedly never had sex with a guy. That was just fine. But finding-out about her being the center of a spit-roast between two guys? Sow-wy! Then she's a slut!

Maybe it's because I don't go to church.
 
Interesting....I have been with 1 women in my life.....she has been with 1 dude....no other d!cks been where mine has been...we experimented a lot when we got married and learned an awful lot along the way...have had a lot of fun exploring over the years! Nice to have complete trust in your spouse!
 
Interesting....I have been with 1 women in my life.....she has been with 1 dude....no other d!cks been where mine has been...we experimented a lot when we got married and learned an awful lot along the way...have had a lot of fun exploring over the years! Nice to have complete trust in your spouse!
1 women?

Trust is immeasurable!
 
Now you have just crossed the line into full stupidity. Although I get that it's a short trip.
he didn't even have to leave the house , underside of the rock or where ever he was.
 
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Yeah...you've done a pretty poor job of keeping that secret.

It's never been a secret on here dumbass. If I cared what you thought about me and was the least bit concerned, you would not know it, no doubt about it. In fact, I'd have you convinced I was a nun. In discussions that I have participated in on this forum I have preferred to be honest instead of concerned about what people who don't know me think.
 
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