Recruiting

[GoNtheDistance]

We can talk night and Day about all the shortcomings of this team. However, the root of all our issues is our inability to recruit at the high level we once were able to attain on a consistent basis. Truth is, every one of our freshman recruits not named Felton, have no business in a Carolina uniform in most years. Unfortunately we have laid so many eggs on the recruiting trail, Roy started passing our charity scholarships to the only kids left that somewhat looked like they could fill a void. Frankly, we would have been just as better off in keeping those schollies in our pocket and trying to land a super class, rather than key holing ourselves into being stuck with this marginal talent, especially in the post, for 3 more years after this. We are in major danger zone unless we land no less than 2 high quality, top 25 bigs in the next 2 classes. If not, the weaknesses we see in this team, will continue to be present on a team without a pulse in the post. It’s almost scary to consider how bad we may struggle next year without Joel given what we have left on the roster and even with the talent coming in, it doesn’t shore up our most glaring weaknesses.

 

[pln2013]

It is truly remarkable that we only signed one top-100 big man in the '14, '15, '16, and '17 (and most likely '18) classes.

 

[sctarheel30]

We can talk night and Day about all the shortcomings of this team. However, the root of all our issues is our inability to recruit at the high level we once were able to attain on a consistent basis. Truth is, every one of our freshman recruits not named Felton, have no business in a Carolina uniform in most years. Unfortunately we have laid so many eggs on the recruiting trail, Roy started passing our charity scholarships to the only kids left that somewhat looked like they could fill a void. Frankly, we would have been just as better off in keeping those schollies in our pocket and trying to land a super class, rather than key holing ourselves into being stuck with this marginal talent, especially in the post, for 3 more years after this. We are in major danger zone unless we land no less than 2 high quality, top 25 bigs in the next 2 classes. If not, the weaknesses we see in this team, will continue to be present on a team without a pulse in the post. It’s almost scary to consider how bad we may struggle next year without Joel given what we have left on the roster and even with the talent coming in, it doesn’t shore up our most glaring weaknesses.

Agree. Hopefully with the scandal behind us things will change.

 

[RoseHeel]

Nah man. Everything is fine with our recruiting. Clearly you're just #chickenlittle and think the sky is falling. Stop overreacting. We just win in the end anyway.

 

[gauchoheel]

We certainly need to keep bringing in classes like 2018. The idea that Roy wins with three-star players is just a myth. He's had as much talent as anybody except for maybe one school during his UNC tenure.

 

[Ozheelfan]

It is truly remarkable that we only signed one top-100 big man in the '14, '15, '16, and '17 (and most likely '18) classes.

Sorry mate.... NCAA investigation weighed mightily.... coupled with a wave of negative recruiting against UNC.
Roy was quoted a couple of years ago, describing the recruiting struggles, and remarking how quickly things changed... he was signing 1-3 mcd’s AA players per year and the it stopped!

 

[Sk1310]

Our recruiting has been down the last couple years? Shit, I don't think anyone has realized that. The way Roy is recruiting bigs for 2019, I think he understands what he needs. Hopefully we can land Montgomery late in the game.

 

[truetarheelraider0806]

Negative recruiting is definitely one of the key factors along with the scandal they can't say he holds freshmen back because now Roy can say Tony Bradley wasn't held back. They can't use the scandal because well we were cleared. I know for a fact they are using the stuff that comes with UNC now. A friend's kid plays football and is heavily recruited he says that the south Carolina coaches said " if you go to UNC everyone will assume you are not doing school work and cheating."

That is football I can just imagine what Capel is saying or k, cal, or pearl on the baball side of things. Negative recruiting is definitely still happening

 

[heels05champs]

Well said Rose. Many on this board wanted to bury their head in the sand and ignore the rankings but the rankings are generally a good indicator of a kid. We’ve had three straight poor recruiting classes and now you’re seeing the results. Frankly, the three bigs are going to tie up scholarships for three more years and I’m not sure even one of them would receive a scholarship on a normal recruiting year.

Also, I share the same concern about next year. Our weakness this year will be our weakness next year. There was nothing done in the 2018 recruiting class to address this need so we can expect more of the same next year.

 

[truetarheelraider0806]

Manley would have been a stud if not for two broken legs. Also seventh Woods Brandon Robinson and Tony Bradley was a good recruiting class top 10 in fact

 

[mikeirbyusa]

Roy has to go with who can get. Getting no one is not the answer either. Give the young bigs a chance to see how they develop. Meanwhile we have 2 MickeyD coming in along with Black. I'll take that every year.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

1. Years of negative recruiting and negative reporting don't go away overnight. The cloud is gone, the aftereffect isn't.

2. We are not seen as a school that develops kids quickly. Hence less appeal to kids who fancy themselves OAD.

3. More kids than ever fancy themselves OAD.

 

[tarheel0910]

1. Years of negative recruiting and negative reporting don't go away overnight. The cloud is gone, the aftereffect isn't.

2. We are not seen as a school that develops kid quickly. Hence less appeal to kids who fancy themselves OAD.

3. More kids than ever fancy themselves OAD.

All of that's true, but I would expect that to have the most impact on OAD type players. The players in the 25-50 range turning us down is what is killing us now.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

In recent years many of us (including me) said an additional big reason we had trouble recruiting top bigs was because our stable was full of guys who (at that time) were under-performing. But to recruits, they saw limited playing time because it was reasonable to think those under-performers would improve and take all the PT.

Plus, Roy has a reputation for playing his experienced guys over freshmen.

And, as it turned out, that was correct. As back to back appearances in the championship game showed, the bigs improved. And as Tony's minutes showed, Roy went to his experienced guys over his freshman. Heck, even Luke got more PT down the stretch.

So . . . once again, the stable is full of big guys. And once again they are under-performing. But if you are a top big, will you count on them under-performing next year? Or the year after that? And do you think Roy is going to make a special exception for you and play you ahead of his experienced guys?

The difference this time around is that we used to be full with guys like Brice, Kennedy, Isaiah and Joel James. One 5-star and three high 4-star players. All top-60. Whereas this time we have one low 4-star player and two 3-star guys - none in the top 100 and the best-ranked just #130.

We all hope for the rapid development of our current bigs. And we hope they have more upside than their rankings suggest. But we are in unfamiliar territory having our stable of bigs so full with low-ranked guys. In my recollection, the only low-ranked big we've had who has delivered the way we need these freshmen to deliver is Luke.

 

[GoNtheDistance]

Tar Heel hit the nail on the head. Im not concerned with the true one and dones. If we get one every now and then great, if not, that’s fine too. The problem is we aren’t having success competing for the top 50 kids as well as we once were. Hell last year we were swimming in the 100-150 pond which can’t happen. We can talk development and that’s fine but 9 of 10 Times, the ceiling of the top 50 kids will always be much higher than those that we are stuck with now.

 

[dadika13]

NCAA cloud gone (we have a GREAT class coming in) and OAD going away something tells me we'll be just fine.

Guys, what were your expectations this season after we won a natty and lost Justin, Hicks, Meeks, and Bradley? Mine were not very high.

 

[tarheel0910]

NCAA cloud gone (we have a GREAT class coming in) and OAD going away something tells me we'll be just fine.

We do have a great class coming in, but it doesn't really address our weakness. Also, I'm not sure how much the OAD going away helps us. Roy's wheelhouse is usually those second tier guys that weren't OAD. If OAD goes away people like Cal and K are going to start to go after them again. That's more competition.

Guys, what were your expectations this season after we won a natty and lost Justin, Hicks, Meeks, and Bradley? Mine were not very high.

Mine weren't that high. As long as we make the tournament and win our first round game I'll be satisfied.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Roy signed no 5-star recruits in 2012. First time ever at UNC*. Might even be the first time for Roy anywhere, for all I know.

The question was "can Roy keep winning if he doesn't get the top recruits?" Because, at that time, that was the knock on Roy: he only wins because he's a great recruiter.

Well, Roy buried that criticism. We may have lost a few more games. But disaster did not strike. Over the next 4 years we went 9-4 in the NCAA tournament. Not the best in the nation, but pretty darn good. I think only K and Calipari were (slightly) better in that 4-year stretch - and that stretch does not include our championship run. Make that a 5-year stretch and Roy passes both of them.

The 2015 class was another one without any 5-star players. Depending on whether you count Jalek as a 5-star player, so was 2017.

Moreover, both 2015 and 2017 introduced a new factor - low-ranked bigs.

This year is sort of a fluke. We were supposed to have Tony. And that would have made a big difference. But we don't. And our low-ranked bigs aren't really ready to carry the full load we need them to carry.

Next year will be key. We lose a lot - Joel, Theo and possibly Cam and/or Jalek. But we have a good recruiting class coming in.

We're having a bumpy ride now. Will the incoming class and a year of experience for our bigs right the ship? Or will the departure of all that experience mean the rocky ride continues?

Which is not to say we should write off this year. We still probably go to the NCAAT. And we have several games left to figure things out.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

OAD going away

Wait. What? Is this definite?

 

[dadika13]

Wait. What? Is this definite?

Usually when Adam Silver wants something, he gets it.

 

[pln2013]

Guys, what were your expectations this season after we won a natty and lost Justin, Hicks, Meeks, and Bradley? Mine were not very high.

I didn't really expect much from this team, though we're a bit worse than I expected. I did expect guys like Jalek and Brooks to show more than they have - at the moment, I'm concerned about whether we'll be a true contender next year.

We're basically counting on:
1) Trading Berry and Pinson for White and Little being a significant net positive
2) 2-3 guys (Woods, Robinson, Brooks, and Manley are my main candidates) making a significant leap

Neither is too unrealistic, but how likely is it that both happen?

 

[Tom79]

We can already see Manley growing, those two leg breaks kept his progress down but with staff he will be much improved next season.
pin, you're correct, not unrealistic and could more than likely happen. Rechon may be another contributor. Coby is sure having a solid sr. season. Little without question, will help us ALOT. As a group, we need to return to the confidence in feeding the bigs, not there now, next year with Manley should be better. And Cam....

 

[TheFamily22]

All of that's true, but I would expect that to have the most impact on OAD type players. The players in the 25-50 range turning us down is what is killing us now.

But are they turning us down because they don't want to come here or because we are going all in on those OAD, that we really have no chance with?

 

[Spaceytoyz]

I understand the down year and after a national Championship I am fine with it, but 10 3's in the first half of a basketball game is preventable ...

 

[Tom79]

Some people need to adjust their reasoning on OAD's. Simply put most of those types are blown up by hype machines with someone else's interests at heart, like family, agents, AAU and so on...blowing billowing smoke up some skirts. Every season.

UK recruiting the heck outta some kids. Who plays, who sits...how many do they dare take cause right now they got 15 kids that are not OAD. Their group took UK out of the top 25 fast.
Dook? How many kids do they take? Who sits, who plays. They have 3 spots to fill. Recruit over much?
That leaves a great many kids for the other 358 D1 schools.
Even people on this site made a bunch of noise over Jalek and how he was surely OAD.
Roy and staff are after some kids. Give me some kids in the 20 to 50 range all day, separation there is minimal. Like some here say, I will wait until next season to see who suits up. One kid I like in 2020, with a little weight will be a very good 5 man.
Lots of kids out there, some in the kool aid, some not. We want the non-knuckleheads.

 

[JakeSarna]

If we don't land EJ Montgomery next season I really want this 6'10 2018 grad transfer named Mike Daum. This kid is incredible. He has already said a month ago that he is going to be a grad transfer and that he wants to go to a top school to play his final season and really show what he can do at an elite school and in an elite conference. This sounds like someone we can actually land if we reach out at the earliest we can since a lot of top schools are gonna be very interested in a proven veteran with this kids ability.. I think he would be an even bigger get for us then EJ Montgomery. So far this season Mike Daums stats are eyepopping. Yes he plays in a weak conference and not a great school but if you.watch this kid, he's the real deal. And besides being an elite scorer and an elite rebounder...He's a flat out sharpshooter too who shoots 3's, mid range FG and FT like a guard. Plus hes an above average passer who is very unselfish. Here are his stats this season so far:
22.7 PPG
9.3 RPG
42%-3P%
85%-FT%

I know he isn't a 5, at all. But he's very athletic, is a plus defender in the paint and has a motor like Hansbrough (well not like TH but similar). A frontline with Daum, Maye and Little on the wing, we would be unstoppable at times. Yes id love to see us get more of a above the rim, rim protecting 5 next season but if we whiff on Montgomery, we are most likely set as we are or Roy will hit the Grad Transfer market. And Daum will easily be the best 4/5 available.

And obviously I feel very very good about Manleys potential but with his past very long injury history and possibly needing 2 years of strength & conditioning before he can play 28 MPG big for us. Im gonna constantly be worried that Manley could get injured at any moment. And with Brooks also looking like needing another year of developing, especially on the offensive end and also not looking like he's that effective as a 5 and looks more like a classic college PF. I would love to go into next year with less of a worry in the post and now with our PG questions for next season, I would love to go into the season feeling very good about our frontline instead of feeling just hopeful and nervous.

There's also another legit potential grad transfer big that actually might be more enticing to Roy because he's a legit 5. His name is Trayvon Reed at Texas State. He's 7'2, can actually run the floor very well for a 7'2 big. His stamina (from what I see seems very good for his size). He's AVGing 32 MPG, which for a 7'2 player is amazing, even if they don't play as uptempo as us. But Reed isn't the greatest scorer but what he lacks in scoring punch, he makes up in rebounding (plus offensive and defensive rebounder), and on top of it, he's an elite post defender and he's averaging over 3 blocks a game. His stats so far are:
10.1PPG
11.8RPG
3.1 BPG
66%-FT%

Obviously Daum would be the HUGE get but adding a experienced 5th year 7'2 rebounding/defensive machine to our frontline next season would have me sleeping better. Then Manley, Brooks and Huffman can develop for another year without feeling the pressure to perform night in and night out for a ACC team that runs their offense thru their bigs. Plus having a veteran big for one year would very much help their development...

 

[dadika13]

Do some of you guys get paid by the word?

 

[Archer2]

We can talk night and Day about all the shortcomings of this team. However, the root of all our issues is our inability to recruit at the high level we once were able to attain on a consistent basis. Truth is, every one of our freshman recruits not named Felton, have no business in a Carolina uniform in most years. Unfortunately we have laid so many eggs on the recruiting trail, Roy started passing our charity scholarships to the only kids left that somewhat looked like they could fill a void. Frankly, we would have been just as better off in keeping those schollies in our pocket and trying to land a super class, rather than key holing ourselves into being stuck with this marginal talent, especially in the post, for 3 more years after this. We are in major danger zone unless we land no less than 2 high quality, top 25 bigs in the next 2 classes. If not, the weaknesses we see in this team, will continue to be present on a team without a pulse in the post. It’s almost scary to consider how bad we may struggle next year without Joel given what we have left on the roster and even with the talent coming in, it doesn’t shore up our most glaring weaknesses.

O ye of little faith.

Our recruiting has been down the last couple years? Shit, I don't think anyone has realized that. The way Roy is recruiting bigs for 2019, I think he understands what he needs. Hopefully we can land Montgomery late in the game.

Indubitably.

NCAA cloud gone (we have a GREAT class coming in) and OAD going away something tells me we'll be just fine.

Guys, what were your expectations this season after we won a natty and lost Justin, Hicks, Meeks, and Bradley? Mine were not very high.

Bingo.

 

[RoseHeel]

All of that's true, but I would expect that to have the most impact on OAD type players. The players in the 25-50 range turning us down is what is killing us now.

2017 was strange. We recruited with little urgency that we saw in 2016. We made 16 offers in the 2017 class; only 1 of them were in that 25-50 range. There were guys that rose or fell to into that range like Tilmon or Weatherspoon, but the only guy we actually offered in that span was Brandon Randolph. Everyone else was either Top 25 or sub-100.

Of course, pointing this out received a standard negative reaction at the time. Nevertheless, looks like those chickens are coming home to roost now.

Well said Rose. Many on this board wanted to bury their head in the sand and ignore the rankings but the rankings are generally a good indicator of a kid. We’ve had three straight poor recruiting classes and now you’re seeing the results. Frankly, the three bigs are going to tie up scholarships for three more years and I’m not sure even one of them would receive a scholarship on a normal recruiting year.

Also, I share the same concern about next year. Our weakness this year will be our weakness next year. There was nothing done in the 2018 recruiting class to address this need so we can expect more of the same next year.

I'm hoping at least one of our 3 bigs can make a solid leap by next year, but I'm not too optimistic on that front. Hopefully Nassir and Coby are all they're advertised to be and more.

 

[GoNtheDistance]

O ye of little faith.


Indubitably.

Bingo.

I have faith Arch. The issue is that the numbers don’t lie. Rankings aren’t fool proof but I don’t think any of us can argue that we have to start winning top 50 kids to get back to where we are used to being on a consistent basis. Recruiting classes like this freshman class simply can’t happen if we want to stay relevant.

 

[gunslingerdick]

I’ve put a comprehensive recruiting plan together based on all the discussions we’ve had here at our little ol message board. I left a message for Roy in the coach’s office telling him we needed to meet so I could go over the plan with him. Haven’t heard back yet but I’ll keep you all posted. Rest assured I’ve incorporated all of the brilliance here into my plan. Man, when I get this plan in front of Roy and he finally understands how to recruit, we’re going to be so good.

 

[tarheel0910]

I’ve put a comprehensive recruiting plan together based on all the discussions we’ve had here at our little ol message board. I left a message for Roy in the coach’s office telling him we needed to meet so I could go over the plan with him. Haven’t heard back yet but I’ll keep you all posted. Rest assured I’ve incorporated all of the brilliance here into my plan. Man, when I get this plan in front of Roy and he finally understands how to recruit, we’re going to be so good.

Thanks for doing the legwork for us.

 

[Tom79]

An interesting view from another source...
I’m not exactly going out on a limb here because we already have him ranked No. 3 at his position, but I could see Nassir Little eventually passing the guys ahead of him. He’s not as skilled as R.J. Barrett or quite the overwhelming athlete Zion Williamson is, but he’s improving at a rapid rate and seems to have another level he can reach at North Carolina and beyond.

I can live with that....

Or this:
If I’m a North Carolina fan, I’m pretty excited about Coby White. The Tar Heels are going to need a quality perimeter scorer next year and I think White is ready to step in and make a major contribution. He likes to play fast, has loads of confidence and should give Roy Williams a necessary shot of energy. White could spend minutes running the offense as a point guard, too.

 

[RoseHeel]

Nickelberry Update:

"Right now, he says Butler, Georgia, NC State, North Carolina, Wake Forest and Xavier are the schools he’s having the most contact with, but maintains he’s open to entertaining all schools."

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/four-star-nickelberry-updates-recruiting-status

 

[truetarheelraider0806]

Stanely is going to be a beast once he has a yr in the stregnth and conditioning program

 

[JakeSarna]

Do some of you guys get paid by the word?

Thanks Dadika. I don't exactly have the luxury to be on here everyday, but I'll keep my posts to the bear minimum for you and the others. I apologize if I offended you in anyway and caused you great pain in having to see my posts on a message board.

 

[truetarheelraider0806]

Thanks Dadika. I don't exactly have the luxury to be on here everyday, but I'll keep my posts to the bear minimum for you and the others. I apologize if I offended you in anyway and caused you great pain in having to see my posts on a message board.

Dude I think your good never read a poast where you were bashiing someone or the team

 

[gunslingerdick]

If we don't land EJ Montgomery next season I really want this 6'10 2018 grad transfer named Mike Daum. This kid is incredible. He has already said a month ago that he is going to be a grad transfer and that he wants to go to a top school to play his final season and really show what he can do at an elite school and in an elite conference. This sounds like someone we can actually land if we reach out at the earliest we can since a lot of top schools are gonna be very interested in a proven veteran with this kids ability.. I think he would be an even bigger get for us then EJ Montgomery. So far this season Mike Daums stats are eyepopping. Yes he plays in a weak conference and not a great school but if you.watch this kid, he's the real deal. And besides being an elite scorer and an elite rebounder...He's a flat out sharpshooter too who shoots 3's, mid range FG and FT like a guard. Plus hes an above average passer who is very unselfish. Here are his stats this season so far:
22.7 PPG
9.3 RPG
42%-3P%
85%-FT%

I know he isn't a 5, at all. But he's very athletic, is a plus defender in the paint and has a motor like Hansbrough (well not like TH but similar). A frontline with Daum, Maye and Little on the wing, we would be unstoppable at times. Yes id love to see us get more of a above the rim, rim protecting 5 next season but if we whiff on Montgomery, we are most likely set as we are or Roy will hit the Grad Transfer market. And Daum will easily be the best 4/5 available.

And obviously I feel very very good about Manleys potential but with his past very long injury history and possibly needing 2 years of strength & conditioning before he can play 28 MPG big for us. Im gonna constantly be worried that Manley could get injured at any moment. And with Brooks also looking like needing another year of developing, especially on the offensive end and also not looking like he's that effective as a 5 and looks more like a classic college PF. I would love to go into next year with less of a worry in the post and now with our PG questions for next season, I would love to go into the season feeling very good about our frontline instead of feeling just hopeful and nervous.

There's also another legit potential grad transfer big that actually might be more enticing to Roy because he's a legit 5. His name is Trayvon Reed at Texas State. He's 7'2, can actually run the floor very well for a 7'2 big. His stamina (from what I see seems very good for his size). He's AVGing 32 MPG, which for a 7'2 player is amazing, even if they don't play as uptempo as us. But Reed isn't the greatest scorer but what he lacks in scoring punch, he makes up in rebounding (plus offensive and defensive rebounder), and on top of it, he's an elite post defender and he's averaging over 3 blocks a game. His stats so far are:
10.1PPG
11.8RPG
3.1 BPG
66%-FT%

Obviously Daum would be the HUGE get but adding a experienced 5th year 7'2 rebounding/defensive machine to our frontline next season would have me sleeping better. Then Manley, Brooks and Huffman can develop for another year without feeling the pressure to perform night in and night out for a ACC team that runs their offense thru their bigs. Plus having a veteran big for one year would very much help their development...

Interesting. Where's the first guy currently playing?

I think in the era of OAD, those programs that either can't go that route or don't want to go that route, will see the grad transfer as a different, yet effective option. There's still the benefit of only having the player take up one year of a scholarship but instead of getting a wet-behind-the-ears, AAU trained, no defense playing prima donna, you're getting a seasoned player who has proven he understands how college athletics work and what's required of him. I think Roy should focus on this going forward.

 

[dadika13]

Thanks Dadika. I don't exactly have the luxury to be on here everyday, but I'll keep my posts to the bear minimum for you and the others. I apologize if I offended you in anyway and caused you great pain in having to see my posts on a message board.

It was a joke my man, chill.

 

[Sk1310]

If we don't land EJ Montgomery next season I really want this 6'10 2018 grad transfer named Mike Daum. This kid is incredible. He has already said a month ago that he is going to be a grad transfer and that he wants to go to a top school to play his final season and really show what he can do at an elite school and in an elite conference. This sounds like someone we can actually land if we reach out at the earliest we can since a lot of top schools are gonna be very interested in a proven veteran with this kids ability.. I think he would be an even bigger get for us then EJ Montgomery. So far this season Mike Daums stats are eyepopping. Yes he plays in a weak conference and not a great school but if you.watch this kid, he's the real deal. And besides being an elite scorer and an elite rebounder...He's a flat out sharpshooter too who shoots 3's, mid range FG and FT like a guard. Plus hes an above average passer who is very unselfish. Here are his stats this season so far:
22.7 PPG
9.3 RPG
42%-3P%
85%-FT%

I know he isn't a 5, at all. But he's very athletic, is a plus defender in the paint and has a motor like Hansbrough (well not like TH but similar). A frontline with Daum, Maye and Little on the wing, we would be unstoppable at times. Yes id love to see us get more of a above the rim, rim protecting 5 next season but if we whiff on Montgomery, we are most likely set as we are or Roy will hit the Grad Transfer market. And Daum will easily be the best 4/5 available.

And obviously I feel very very good about Manleys potential but with his past very long injury history and possibly needing 2 years of strength & conditioning before he can play 28 MPG big for us. Im gonna constantly be worried that Manley could get injured at any moment. And with Brooks also looking like needing another year of developing, especially on the offensive end and also not looking like he's that effective as a 5 and looks more like a classic college PF. I would love to go into next year with less of a worry in the post and now with our PG questions for next season, I would love to go into the season feeling very good about our frontline instead of feeling just hopeful and nervous.

There's also another legit potential grad transfer big that actually might be more enticing to Roy because he's a legit 5. His name is Trayvon Reed at Texas State. He's 7'2, can actually run the floor very well for a 7'2 big. His stamina (from what I see seems very good for his size). He's AVGing 32 MPG, which for a 7'2 player is amazing, even if they don't play as uptempo as us. But Reed isn't the greatest scorer but what he lacks in scoring punch, he makes up in rebounding (plus offensive and defensive rebounder), and on top of it, he's an elite post defender and he's averaging over 3 blocks a game. His stats so far are:
10.1PPG
11.8RPG
3.1 BPG
66%-FT%

Obviously Daum would be the HUGE get but adding a experienced 5th year 7'2 rebounding/defensive machine to our frontline next season would have me sleeping better. Then Manley, Brooks and Huffman can develop for another year without feeling the pressure to perform night in and night out for a ACC team that runs their offense thru their bigs. Plus having a veteran big for one year would very much help their development...

Daum has a nice game! can hit 3's, take you off the dribble, even saw a right hook. He looks good. Competition isn't the greatest, but he dropped 21 and 11 against Kansas. He would be a good add, thanks for the share.