Retired priest: ‘Hell’ was invented by the church to control people with fear

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Not that you actually believe in God, Jesus, or any form of morality whatsoever,

Nuk presuming to know another person's heart... that's SO unlike him!

Thanks for "warning me." Are you looking forward to the notion that you get to look down upon these tortured souls and yell "Told you so?" Is that your Heaven? Sounds like a fun place!

 

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Nuk presuming to know another person's heart... that's SO unlike him!

Thanks for "warning me." Are you looking forward to the notion that you get to look down upon these tortured souls and yell "Told you so?" Is that your Heaven? Sounds like a fun place!

Your heart for the Lord is reflected accurately in the extreme when you start a thread like this. It shows your heart is filled with doubt about the accuracy, authenticity, and relevency of the Word of God, not only in your own life, by for the rest of the world in general as well. You posts reflect a heart that is filled with disdain for those who actually do read, understand, and apply the Word of God to their lives. Your posts reflect a deep hatred for the church and those who believe in the Word of God. It is soooooo like you.
You have been warned... repeatedly. You neither read or apply the Word of God to yourself or expect that it does or should apply to the world we live in. Soooooo like you... You're one of those guys who always believed he was too cool for school, too cool for God, too cool for anything but yourself. Stay cool for now, because - like the rich man - it's gonna be very hot where you're heading... Unless you change.

 

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Your heart for the Lord is reflected accurately in the extreme when you start a thread like this. It shows your heart is filled with doubt about the accuracy, authenticity, and relevency of the Word of God, not only in your own life, by for the rest of the world in general as well. You posts reflect a heart that is filled with disdain for those who actually do read, understand, and apply the Word of God to their lives. Your posts reflect a deep hatred for the church and those who believe in the Word of God. It is soooooo like you.
You have been warned... repeatedly. You neither read or apply the Word of God to yourself or expect that it does or should apply to the world we live in. Soooooo like you... You're one of those guys who always believed he was too cool for school, too cool for God, too cool for anything but yourself. Stay cool for now, because - like the rich man - it's gonna be very hot where you're heading... Unless you change.

My heart for God shows disdain by offering the idea that religions and the church try to control people by making them fear a "place" that the church itself created? I can handle that. You don't even realize how your allegiance is really to the CHURCH and not God!

I'm not too cool for school. I'm just not blindly obedient to human beings. The "word of God" can take many, MANY forms. The Word of God is not restricted to that book (or books) that religions and churches use to control their subjects. I simply do not believe God is restricted to the writings of men who claimed they were inspired by God (even if they were, which I can totally believe). I'm not diminishing the wisdom that all of the Scriptural texts offer. But, I am suspect when what is written is interpreted and used as a fear tactic to get people to march in line or you get the Big Fire. Where is Hell? Is Hell burning now? If it is "burning" then it must be somewhere in an earthly place to have the elements needed for fire to exist.

My posts do exhibit a defiance to human authority. Authority is a human invention. God is balance and peace, to me. I do not believe the "Hand of God" wrote the Bible. I don't believe God has a "hand" as we have a hand, and fingers, and arm. God is infinite. Everything you're using as a fear tactic to "warn me" is based entirely out of religious doctrine. I did not expect what that priest said to resonate with someone like you. I already KNOW how indoctrinated you are. You have a never-ending obedience to authority. You're not alone. You're in good company. I don't need the FEAR OF HELL to appreciate and emphasize the blessings and benefits of knowing God. People who base their following of God, through religion, by using the motivation of staying out of Hell are knowing God in a pretty limited way. The church has literally TAUGHT YOU to BELIEVE OUT OF FEAR. "Christians will be known by their love..." I don't see a lot of love in "You're going to burn if you don't comply."

God is love, and God is all encompassing. What is all encompassing can have no opposite. God does not forgive because God, being perfect love, does not condemn. But we,as humans, cannot conceive of a creator different from ourselves. We award God the condemnation that we carry on our hearts in order to justify it. People are constantly trying to put God in their human form.

 

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My heart for God shows disdain by offering the idea that religions and the church try to control people by making them fear a "place" that the church itself created? I can handle that. You don't even realize how your allegiance is really to the CHURCH and not God!

I'm not too cool for school. I'm just not blindly obedient to human beings. The "word of God" can take many, MANY forms. The Word of God is not restricted to that book (or books) that religions and churches use to control their subjects. I simply do not believe God is restricted to the writings of men who claimed they were inspired by God (even if they were, which I can totally believe). I'm not diminishing the wisdom that all of the Scriptural texts offer. But, I am suspect when what is written is interpreted and used as a fear tactic to get people to march in line or you get the Big Fire. Where is Hell? Is Hell burning now? If it is "burning" then it must be somewhere in an earthly place to have the elements needed for fire to exist.

My posts do exhibit a defiance to human authority. Authority is a human invention. God is balance and peace, to me. I do not believe the "Hand of God" wrote the Bible. I don't believe God has a "hand" as we have a hand, and fingers, and arm. God is infinite. Everything you're using as a fear tactic to "warn me" is based entirely out of religious doctrine. I did not expect what that priest said to resonate with someone like you. I already KNOW how indoctrinated you are. You have a never-ending obedience to authority. You're not alone. You're in good company. I don't need the FEAR OF HELL to appreciate and emphasize the blessings and benefits of knowing God. People who base their following of God, through religion, by using the motivation of staying out of Hell are knowing God in a pretty limited way. The church has literally TAUGHT YOU to BELIEVE OUT OF FEAR. "Christians will be known by their love..." I don't see a lot of love in "You're going to burn if you don't comply."

God is love, and God is all encompassing. What is all encompassing can have no opposite. God does not forgive because God, being perfect love, does not condemn. But we,as humans, cannot conceive of a creator different from ourselves. We award God the condemnation that we carry on our hearts in order to justify it. People are constantly trying to put God in their human form.

 

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You reject clear Biblical teaching in favor of your notion of God, Jesus, and salvation. You can't chose loving and infinite aspects of the God, the Jesus, the salvation of the Bible and reject everything else. It is that simple.

Stay cool, enjoy it while it lasts. Your time is short.

 

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You reject clear Biblical teaching in favor of your notion of God, Jesus, and salvation. You can't chose loving and infinite aspects of the God, the Jesus, the salvation of the Bible and reject everything else. It is that simple.

Stay cool, enjoy it while it lasts. Your time is short.

Oh, I know. You're reveling int he hope that I die and burn. You have NO clue whether my time is short, long or otherwise. You have the hope that it's short.

The only thing that can be used prove that Biblical accounts are true is... THE BIBLE. God is not limited to The Bible. Some humans might be, but God is not.

By the way, I'm not "rejecting everything else" anymore than you and other religious people do. And, when did you get to pass judgment on who gets to choose what? Because your religion told you if you do so-and-so then you get to be smug and tell who's going to the perpetual fire pit?

Nuk, your earthly intentions are abundantly clear. You even openly embrace the desire (and justify it by the need) to kill people you don't even know. And, then you get in your internet pulpit and tell me I'm going to burn. That's your real satisfaction. I have never seen you post anything that exhibited compassion, humility, love, or empathy. NEVER! Not even a remote hint of those things. You are about Fear and Authority. Your warning is like receiving a bouquet of roses with a card attached saying "I gave you Herpes."

 

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Oh, I know. You're reveling int he hope that I die and burn. You have NO clue whether my time is short, long or otherwise. You have the hope that it's short.

The only thing that can be used prove that Biblical accounts are true is... THE BIBLE. God is not limited to The Bible. Some humans might be, but God is not.

By the way, I'm not "rejecting everything else" anymore than you and other religious people do. And, when did you get to pass judgment on who gets to choose what? Because your religion told you if you do so-and-so then you get to be smug and tell who's going to the perpetual fire pit?

Nuk, your earthly intentions are abundantly clear. You even openly embrace the desire (and justify it by the need) to kill people you don't even know. And, then you get in your internet pulpit and tell me I'm going to burn. That's your real satisfaction. I have never seen you post anything that exhibited compassion, humility, love, or empathy. NEVER! Not even a remote hint of those things. You are about Fear and Authority. Your warning is like receiving a bouquet of roses with a card attached saying "I gave you Herpes."

Based on your flagrant rejection of Biblical truth and principles, I'm pretty sure if you don't change course you will meet a very hot existence. If you actually bother to honestly read the Bible for yourself with a heart truly seeking God, Jesus, and true salvation, you would reach the same conclusion. There is a Hell, and you are screaming head-long straight for it. I hope you will take this advise and change your life.