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Romeo Langford sets Official Visit to UNC

"Can" and "should" are two different things. While many of the Wing responsibilities are interchangeable in the Carolina system, not all are. Some guys can go back and forth well, some cannot.

Here's the best comparison I can give you:
Did you see Wayne Ellington or Donald Williams play even a minute of 3 at UNC? I'll answer that for you --- no. There was a good reason for that.

He "should" if our personnel dictates that he should. No more, no less. If Johnson leaves, we sign Langford, and we don't add another wing, he'd be the closest thing to a 3 on the team.
 
Here's the best comparison I can give you:
Did you see Wayne Ellington or Donald Williams play even a minute of 3 at UNC? I'll answer that for you --- no. There was a good reason for that.

No, but we did see Danny Green play almost entirely at the 3 and moments at the 4 so that's a moot point man
 
I don't think so Gary. I believe Roy wants one of the wing type players, and a big in this class. As I said, even if Romeo is a "classic" two, he has the size to play some SF. That is all. Are Gary Trent Jr and Grayson Allen prototypical SF's? because one of them will be playing SF for Duke this year.

Cam is nothing like Little or Zion

K loves to play 3 guards and does not hesitate to use a 2 guard at the 3, Roy prefers more length at the 3. Notice our more typical version of going small is to move a wing (3) over to the 4 than shifting a 2 guard to the 3.
 
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I don't think so Gary. I believe Roy wants one of the wing type players, and a big in this class. As I said, even if Romeo is a "classic" two, he has the size to play some SF. That is all. Are Gary Trent Jr and Grayson Allen prototypical SF's? because one of them will be playing SF for Duke this year.

Cam is nothing like Little or Zion
Not to be contentious, but that is incorrect. Roy wants a Hybrid forward in this class above all --- someone who can play the 3 or 4 --- and he has said so. He has also indicated he may even take two of those.

Langford is not in that category --- he is a luxury if he commits to us, a 2 who is too good not to take. IF Romeo comes here then Roy will still take one Hybrid.

As for dook --- that doesn't necessarily compare. K runs a very different system over there where the 3 is often just another Guard. Even that being said, they often struggle with match-ups when they don't have a real 3 on the floor.

And finally, Cam will play the Hybrid role that Little or Zion would play. That is what he was brought here to do... not just hang around the perimeter.
 
No, but we did see Danny Green play almost entirely at the 3 and moments at the 4 so that's a moot point man
How the heck is that a "moot point"? Danny was recruited as and came here as a 3. He started off backing up Reyshawn Terry who played the same role.

He wasn't as physically suited to that role as Terry but could do it because of his hops. Danny rarely even saw any time as a Guard in college, and didn't start a single game as a 2 in his career. Fact is he was almost exclusively a 3-man. Now, in the NBA he was more suited to be a perimeter player at 6'5 but in college DG was a 3.

In other words, Danny is not a proper comparison with Langford. Langford's position comparison is Wayne Ellington, who never played a minute other than at the 2 in college.
 
I really don't think Cam will play much at the 4. Theo is a much better fit for that role.
Cam will play it some in small lineups, just like JJ did on occasion last season. Yes, Theo did it more --- and he has tried to bulk up to defend bigger guys this season --- but you can be pretty certain Cam at 6'8 will nonetheless see some time there. Maybe quite a bit if the frosh Bigs don't step up.

Now, if we had reliable Bigs Cam would be primarily a 3 but that is not necessarily going to be the case this season. I do know that Roy has told Cam to prepare himself to play the Hybrid role here. Let's say JB, KW, BRob, Cam and Manley happen to be on the floor together. Cam is the obvious 4 there. If Theo is out there instead of say, BRob that may well be different. Honestly, in small lineups the "4" will often come down to who is guarding the other team's 4-man.

My overall point ITT is that Romeo is not being recruited to fill any part of the Forward mix, i.e., he is a OAD luxury 2 because of his enormous ability. If Romeo committed tomorrow and Little wanted to commit the next day?... I will flat guarantee you Roy would jump on that (and likely jump for joy, if his knees will take it).
 
Not to be contentious, but that is incorrect. Roy wants a Hybrid forward in this class above all --- someone who can play the 3 or 4 --- and he has said so. He has also indicated he may even take two of those.

Langford is not in that category --- he is a luxury if he commits to us, a 2 who is too good not to take. IF Romeo comes here then Roy will still take one Hybrid.

As for dook --- that doesn't necessarily compare. K runs a very different system over there where the 3 is often just another Guard. Even that being said, they often struggle with match-ups when they don't have a real 3 on the floor.

And finally, Cam will play the Hybrid role that Little or Zion would play. That is what he was brought here to do... not just hang around the perimeter.

Agree on all points and especially in that Langford is a luxury that is to good not to take but would add that he is not a position of need and I think that becomes a/the deciding factor, more from the kid than us.

I think it is very clear that Roy is really looking for a hybrid 4/3 or 3/4, in steps Little and or Days as IMO perfect fits (not sure Shittu fits that need but may as well be another of those to good to pass up guys especially depending on how our frosh bigs play this season). Consider, after this season Theo is gone, Cam has 1 season at most and could be gone as well, who plays the 3 if we do not get one now or a hybrid? Brob maybe but he is 6'5" and 175lbs, you either go more old school small forward triple tower (maybe Brooks or Walker) or swing a 2guard down to the 3 and that just isn't what Roy does often and IMO tries to stay away from due to wing mismatches on defense. WE can fill that wing need in 2019 but you really want an experienced guy to allow the frosh to come along slower. I think Days would still be there, not sure Little would be. In a way Days may be the more important recruit because he would have a year of experience under his belt when the 2019 frosh come in and I think 2019 will be a HUGE class for us with big men and wings. I do think in time Days becomes more stretch 4 than wing 3 but if we get him he and/or Little become our best wing options in 2018 if Cam leaves after this season.
 
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I don't think Jackson ever played the 4 when Theo was healthy.

He was not the primary 4 but in small ball Roy had Theo as the primary 4, but the advantage was that Roy loves to exchange with his 3s and 4s just as he loves to exchange with his 1s and 2s, and his 4's and 5s. Point being, Justin didn't start out a set as our primary 4 but he did switch on to 4s as he exchanged with Theo. Theo is not the most tall guy but he has outstanding reach and plays aggressive with his feet which drive big 4s crazy, also the kid is stronger than he looks.
 
I don't think Jackson ever played the 4 when Theo was healthy.
He certainly did. Mostly when Theo was out of the game but even a couple of times when they were on the floor together, depending on the defensive match-up. I chronicled much of that in my post-game stats threads.
 
These arguments are so dumb.

FACTS: Danny Green has nothing to do, at all, with Romeo. Justin did play the 4 at times last season. Little/Days/Shittu have NOTHING to do with Romeo as a fit here. He will play the 2 over anyone we have.
 
Besides the premium bouncer calling people dumb, its actually been civil thread.
 
It is always good to get an outside perspective other then Homerville.

 
all of us know basketball is a game of matchups..lineups are situational...got to play the better players, the ones trusted..if Langford signs and plays here..his skills demand plenty of PT-starters PT...goodie..and I am not looking to compare his game with anyone of the past-the current players must LEARN to play together..None of us doubt that Joel Berry has the "grit"..the "attitude"...we like (and we like that he shows it...)..and we want the whole team to feed off of that...no team has a classic point, shooting guard,pair of forwards and center..I am sure the Langfords will discuss UNC's roster, PT and all the things we think of too
 
It is always good to get an outside perspective other then Homerville.

12 to 1 odds gives us... a 7% chance at landing him? Tough row to hoe.

I don't think Romeo would be too concerned with the guys we have on the roster, expect to the degree they would influence where and how he will be used. He would want to know Roy is going to use him the way he envisions himself developing.
 
How the heck is that a "moot point"? Danny was recruited as and came here as a 3. He started off backing up Reyshawn Terry who played the same role.

He may have been "recruited as a 3" but he has ALWAYS been a 2.

http://247sports.com/Player/Danny-Green-66131?PlayerInstitution=116092
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2005/danny-green-12652
http://scout.com/college/north-carolina/Season/2005-Basketball/Commits

Just because he played almost all of his time as 3 doesn't mean anything. Theo is a 3 who has played 2-4.
 
12 to 1 odds gives us... a 7% chance at landing him? Tough row to hoe.

I don't think Romeo would be too concerned with the guys we have on the roster, expect to the degree they would influence where and how he will be used. He would want to know Roy is going to use him the way he envisions himself developing.

Don't see Romeo commiting to the Heels.
 
12 to 1 odds gives us... a 7% chance at landing him? Tough row to hoe.

I don't think Romeo would be too concerned with the guys we have on the roster, expect to the degree they would influence where and how he will be used. He would want to know Roy is going to use him the way he envisions himself developing.
Was pre official visit annoucement. One of the things it says to watch for regarding our chances is whether or not we actually got a visit. Which we did. The article seemed to think we wouldn't.
 
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He may have been "recruited as a 3" but he has ALWAYS been a 2.

http://247sports.com/Player/Danny-Green-66131?PlayerInstitution=116092
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2005/danny-green-12652
http://scout.com/college/north-carolina/Season/2005-Basketball/Commits

Just because he played almost all of his time as 3 doesn't mean anything. Theo is a 3 who has played 2-4.
Huh? Danny was recruited by Roy as a 3 and played 3 almost exclusively at Carolina, so no, obviously he was NOT "always a 2". Good grief. Not sure what the point even is or what any of those recruiting sites have to do with anything.

I just attempted to convey some information about Langford ITT and I get these damned silly arguments. If he's on the floor with BRob, BRob plays the 3... if he's on the court with KW, KW plays the 3. Bank it.
Bottom line is
a) if he comes here it won't be to play the 3, and
b) his recruitment has little to do with Little (pun intended)
 
Huh? Danny was recruited by Roy as a 3 and played 3 almost exclusively at Carolina, so no, obviously he was NOT "always a 2". Good grief. Not sure what the point even is or what any of those recruiting sites have to do with anything.

I just attempted to convey some information about Langford ITT and I get these damned silly arguments. If he's on the floor with BRob, BRob plays the 3... if he's on the court with KW, KW plays the 3. Bank it.
Bottom line is
a) if he comes here it won't be to play the 3, and
b) his recruitment has little to do with Little (pun intended)

Dude the whole point of my post was to prove to you Danny was always a 2, which he was. Click the links, coming out of high school he was a SHOOTING GUARD. There's a reason he plays SG for the Spurs.

Your argument is as stupid as saying "because Pinson played the 2 majority of the time this year he is a 2." He might have played the 2, but Pinson is a 3 who can handle the ball aka a point forward. Hell this year if the freshman bigs can't play on a competitive level and we have to go small majority of the time with Luke playing center are we going to label him as a center? Hell no he is a stretch 4.

"These silly damned arguments" smh I've proven you wrong just accept defeat old man. The point is that Romeo (a 2) could play out of position and play the 3 if he were to commit.
 
Pitino putting on full court press. Langford maybe headed to Louisvile this weekend for unofficial to see the Clemson football game. Darius Days will be there for his OV.
 
Dude the whole point of my post was to prove to you Danny was always a 2, which he was. Click the links, coming out of high school he was a SHOOTING GUARD. There's a reason he plays SG for the Spurs.

Your argument is as stupid as saying "because Pinson played the 2 majority of the time this year he is a 2." He might have played the 2, but Pinson is a 3 who can handle the ball aka a point forward. Hell this year if the freshman bigs can't play on a competitive level and we have to go small majority of the time with Luke playing center are we going to label him as a center? Hell no he is a stretch 4.

"These silly damned arguments" smh I've proven you wrong just accept defeat old man. The point is that Romeo (a 2) could play out of position and play the 3 if he were to commit.

Why do you guys continuously get into pissing contest that are generally not related to the OP ??? GMAFB
 
Pitino putting on full court press. Langford maybe headed to Louisvile this weekend for unofficial to see the Clemson football game. Darius Days will be there for his OV.

Doesn't really seem like we lead for any of the players we've offered other than perhaps/probably Little.
 
Dude the whole point of my post was to prove to you Danny was always a 2, which he was. Click the links, coming out of high school he was a SHOOTING GUARD. There's a reason he plays SG for the Spurs.

Your argument is as stupid as saying "because Pinson played the 2 majority of the time this year he is a 2." He might have played the 2, but Pinson is a 3 who can handle the ball aka a point forward. Hell this year if the freshman bigs can't play on a competitive level and we have to go small majority of the time with Luke playing center are we going to label him as a center? Hell no he is a stretch 4.

"These silly damned arguments" smh I've proven you wrong just accept defeat old man. The point is that Romeo (a 2) could play out of position and play the 3 if he were to commit.
You haven't proven a damned thing. He was NOT always a 2. Period. THAT's what has been proven since he never played that position at UNC. Ipso facto and stuff... Dude.
WTF is wrong with you?
 
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You haven't proven a damned thing. He was NOT always a 2. Period. THAT's what has been proven since he never played that position at UNC. Ipso facto and stuff... Dude.
WTF is wrong with you?
Gary mate, I hope you don't mind my saying.... chill. Take a look at the profile.... this poster arrived just after another left and both seem to relish stirring you up.... seems too easy, just leave them be.
 
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Gary mate, I hope you don't mind my saying.... chill. Take a look at the profile.... this poster arrived just after another left and both seem to relish stirring you up.... seems too easy, just leave them be.
Yeah, I'd forgotten about that until the last logic-defying post, then the ol' troll alarm belatedly went off :rolleyes:;).
 
Gary mate, I hope you don't mind my saying.... chill. Take a look at the profile.... this poster arrived just after another left and both seem to relish stirring you up.... seems too easy, just leave them be.

Just my opinion here. Anyone creating multiple accounts pretending to be 2 different people for the purpose of trolling should be perma-banned.
 
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Just my opinion here. Anyone creating multiple accounts pretending to be 2 different people for the purpose of trolling should be perma-banned.

Well to me it is a sad commentary on the times we live in. Why not just man up and be proud of who you are and not feel the need to hide behind different personas? Doing that is like that kid on the school yard, big mouth, slaps at ya and runs away before getting his butt whipped. No respect for anyone like that...
 
They can and should do it. I'm sure they can track IPs for the sign in's.
They have the power to track them by IP, but why ban people unless they are using language that is inappropriate or giving away premium info? The ignore button exists for a reason.
 
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They have the power to track them by IP, but why ban people unless they are using language that is inappropriate or giving away premium info? The ignore button exists for a reason.

I find trolling far more annoying than bad language...probably not the only one either.
 
I find trolling far more annoying than bad language...probably not the only one either.
Ok, that's what the ignore function is for. Trolling is subjective. I think everyone that posts here (except for a few people) has been called a troll. Should we all be banned?
 
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