Roy and Transfers - great read

[Ozheelfan]

Great article..... And it speaks volumes how Roy deflects the credit for his low rate of transfers (only 8 players have transferred out in his 28yrs of head coaching)

http://www.fayobserver.com/blogs/sp...cle_c2dc7e4a-10c2-11e6-ba2c-7bae5dd31f40.html

 

[gary-7]

Great article..... And it speaks volumes how Roy deflects the credit for his low rate of transfers (only 8 players have transferred out in his 28yrs of head coaching)

http://www.fayobserver.com/blogs/sp...cle_c2dc7e4a-10c2-11e6-ba2c-7bae5dd31f40.html

Good stuff, Oz... and perhaps a lesson for those who advocate short rotations.

 

[DSouthr]

Roy learned from a really smart guy the value of having a deep bench and you only get a deep bench by playing guys, guys that get PT and know their coach is working hard to get them ready to play don't tend to transfer. You do get the occasional guy that thinks he is better than he really is, as in Drew & the twins, but over all Roy has done a great job of recruiting coachable kids. We have great examples of just this on the team for next season, especially if Jackson comes back. Look at guys like Hicks, Theo, Joel, Britt...These are guys that did not start off their UNC careers blazing by any definition but they are guys we saw dramatic improvement in the longer their careers continued.

Roy does not feature star players, he plays every one and everyone gets involved, Joel James got in and takes jump shots, Luke comes in and the ball goes to him in scoring position, everyone gets involved. That keeps even you deep bench happy, Kenny didn't play a lot last season but Roy still put him in at crunch time, that investment wil pay off IMO this season big time.

It is when you begin your season and only go 7-8 deep that your bench players start realizing I could start some place else or they do not see the coaching as effectively developing their game as seems to be the case with NC State. Duke has so many transfers because if you are not in K's magic 7 then your PT is going to take a huge whack, when you see starters still in a game with 2mins to go and you are up by 35 it kinda burns in you how little chance to play you get. I am really surprised jeter did not join Thorton in transferring because he looks like a kid that will spend his career being recruited over

 

[coryfly]

Yeah, that was a very good take on Roy and his programs.

 

[gunslingerdick]

"Every recruit I've recruited, I say, ‘Hey, if it's the best thing for you to leave after your freshman year,’ I'll say, 'Fine, but I want you to look at your career over a four-year span. I'd like for you to look at it from your senior year backward,' which nobody does. Nowadays, everybody wants immediate satisfaction."

Boom. There it is. We've had a lot of discussion about recruitment of OAD players. We've talked about the reasons that Roy has struggled to land OAD players. Well, here it is, from the horse's mouth. Just as I suspected, he recruits OAD players but he basically tells them to think about their career in terms of 4 years. It's obvious he's not changing his pitch to accommodate them like other coaches are doing. So this should put an end to the hypotheses from duke fans as to why Roy doesn't have success with OAD players. He doesn't have success with OAD players because, well, he doesn't want OAD players and lets them know it. Good for Roy.

 

[tarheel0910]

He doesn't have success with OAD players because, well, he doesn't want OAD players and lets them know it. Good for Roy.

I don't think that's the case. He would have never recruited Ingram if that's how he felt. I think what he is trying to say is that they should consider all options before they make the decision. Don't leave just because everyone says you should, make the decision based on what you want.

 

[gunslingerdick]

I don't think that's the case. He would have never recruited Ingram if that's how he felt. I think what he is trying to say is that they should consider all options before they make the decision. Don't leave just because everyone says you should, make the decision based on what you want.

Sure he would have. He's sending the message "that if you play for UNC, plan to stay more than an obligatory 1 year. In fact, think 4 years and maybe you'll be ready sooner."