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Obama moved it down 23.1% over 2 years (11.5% per year) whereas Trump dropped it 12.3% in a year. Also, unless you are growing the economy at a faster rate, jobs become more scarce as employment levels rise. In other words, it is harder to drop it from 9%-8% than it is to drop from 10% to 9%. However plenty of jobs are available now in many places in the country because the economy is expanding at acceptable rate and forecast to continue to do so.

No, the problems in the ME aren't solved and never will be. But the most pressing problem of Isis occupying enough land to be a good sized country has been eliminated when it almost continually grew larger under Obama.
Trump has been good for the economy, I don’t doubt that. But you discredit Obama too much. Trump inherited a solid economy and jobs are increasing at pretty much the same rate now as they were the last couple years.

I’m more concerned with wages. Will they continue to stagnate? That’s the true barometer by which we measure the success of tax reform.

ISIS has been on the run for a while. Trump didn’t just flip the script. I will say Mattis has been my favorite appointee and it’s not close.
 
I love that dude. That quote of his when asked what keeps him up at night was so "Murica".
Trump is scared of Mattis as well. Trump has called out anyone who goes against what he wants except Mattis. Mattis has ignored a couple WH directives and not a peep from Trump.

I’d love to have Mad Dog as President. Dude just gets it.
 
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Trump has been good for the economy, I don’t doubt that. But you discredit Obama too much. Trump inherited a solid economy and jobs are increasing at pretty much the same rate now as they were the last couple years.

I’m more concerned with wages. Will they continue to stagnate? That’s the true barometer by which we measure the success of tax reform.

ISIS has been on the run for a while. Trump didn’t just flip the script. I will say Mattis has been my favorite appointee and it’s not close.

Do you think the economy would be doing as well as it is now if Obama were still president?
 
Do you think the economy would be doing as well as it is now if Obama were still president?
Probably not. But not much outside of the stock market boom has changed all that much in the last 24 months. If you can't admit that, you're a blind homer.

I'm hopeful tax reform has a positive effect. We will see if it actually finds its way to the middle class or stays put.
 
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Probably not. But not much outside of the stock market boom has changed all that much in the last 24 months. If you can't admit that, you're a blind homer.

I'm hopeful tax reform has a positive effect. We will see if it actually finds its way to the middle class or stays put.

Tax cuts and the subsequent bonuses that were passed out to employees in many different companies is a big change. The fact that there is not an insignificant amount of manufacturing moving back is a big change. And just today it was reported that jobless claims are the lowest since 1973- that is a big change.

Seems to me that only people with an agenda against Trump and for Obama think that things haven't changed all that much over the past 24 months.

Fact is that most businesses were worried about investment as everyone was unsure about which industry would be the target of Obama's next executive order. Trump has erased this fear and companies are not worried about having the rug yanked out.
 
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Tax cuts and the subsequent bonuses that were passed out to employees in many different companies is a big change. The fact that there is not an insignificant amount of manufacturing moving back is a big change. And just today it was reported that jobless claims are the lowest since 1973- that is a big change.

Seems to me that only people with an agenda against Trump and for Obama think that things haven't changed all that much over the past 24 months.

Fact is that most businesses were worried about investment as everyone was unsure about which industry would be the target of Obama's next executive order. Trump has erased this fear and companies are not worried about having the rug yanked out.
No meaningful manufacturing is coming back

The $1k bonuses was purely a marketing/propaganda gimmick. Let’s pay out tiny bonuses while we announce an extra $90B in stock buy backs.

Tax reform won’t mean shit if we don’t see wage growth. I’m hopeful it happens.
 
No meaningful manufacturing is coming back

Didn’t Apple just say they were going to create 20k American jobs?

The $1k bonuses was purely a marketing/propaganda gimmick. Let’s pay out tiny bonuses...
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Why don’t we ask the ones who got it if they view it as “tiny” and “just a marketing gimmick”.
 
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Didn’t Apple just say they were going to create 20k American jobs?



Why don’t we ask the ones who got it if they view it as “tiny” and “just a marketing gimmick”.
I’m not saying these cuts won’t help. But Apple isn’t opening 20k manufacturing jobs.

Again, my measure for success is wage growth. We are about as low as we are gonna go for employment metrics. What will make this country boom is paying those with jobs more money.

If the income gap between C-Level Execs and everyone else widens, I’ll call this a failure. If wages rise, I’ll be thrilled.

Exactly.

A $1000 bonus is very real money when something like 40% of all Americans say they can't pay for a $1000 emergency.
Keep buying the hype
 
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If the income gap between C-Level Execs and everyone else widens, I’ll call this a failure.

Wrong. Who cares if high wage earners make more if everyone else does too? Identity politics and class warfare are the hallmark of wasteful efforts by left leaning politicians.
 
Wrong. Who cares if high wage earners make more if everyone else does too? Identity politics and class warfare are the hallmark of wasteful efforts by left leaning politicians.
I meant if the big boys make more but everything else stays stagnant.
 
I don’t get it. If you guys are so ****ing smart why aren’t your names on any tickets come November? Goddamn political armchair quarterbacks.
 
Uh oh. What is this place upon which I stumbled? I should probably avoid this shithole. FTR, Drumpf is the worst Precedent of all time. Zion choosing dook* yesterday was still a better Jan 20th than last year's 'Murican Carnage. Carry on.
 
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Uh oh. What is this place upon which I stumbled? I should probably avoid this shithole. FTR, Drumpf is the worst Precedent of all time. Zion choosing dook* yesterday was still a better Jan 20th than last year's 'Murican Carnage. Carry on.

ZZL-P is a much better place for you. Just don't make any bets on Trump losing and you should be fine.

Big fan of the Gifs though.
 
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ZZL-P is a much better place for you. Just don't make any bets on Trump losing and you should be fine.

Big fan of the Gifs though.

Yeah. I doubt I frequent here. However, the ZZL-P isn't humming right now. I'm definitely counting on Drumpf's downfall. Too many didn't believe he could win. I wasn't one of them. People won't make that mistake again. If they do, we deserve him.

Glad you enjoy the gifs. Is there any way to give you half a like? ;)
 
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I'd be curious what @bleeduncblue thinks of the POUTUS' comments . . he spends quite a bit of time in Haiti, his family adopted a 4 yr old girl from that country IIRC.




Who needs Haitians . . ? Trump does to work his Mar-a- Lago club and he can't get enough of 'em . .


Trump asked why the US needs more Haitians. Mar-a-Lago may hold the answer
  • President Donald Trump reportedly stunned lawmakers Thursday when he asked, "Why do we need more Haitians" in the United States
  • Yet Trump's own Palm Beach resort, Mar-a-Lago, reportedly employs Haitian guest workers to do a variety of jobs
  • Mar-a-Lago received 70 H-2B visas for foreign workers in 2017 — ahead of the current high season

From the article linked :

Luckily for Trump, the answer to one of them — namely, why America "needs more Haitians" — lies right outside the president's front door.

That's because The Mar-a-Lago Club, Trump's mansion-cum-golf resort in Palm Beach, Florida, reportedly hires more of its seasonal foreign workers from Haiti than it does from nearly any other country.

Those Haitians come to the United States to work for Trump on H-2B visas, temporary work permits issued by the Department of Labor to employers who can't find enough American workers to fill their need for low-skilled, seasonal labor.

At Mar-a-Lago, the season runs from November to April, when sunny Palm Beach is a mecca for wealthy Northerners escaping the cold.

For the 2017-18 season, the club applied for and received 70 H-2B visas. The foreign workers serve as cooks, housekeepers and servers, paid between $10 and $13 an hour, according to filings Mar-a-Lago submitted to the DOL.

In other words, Trump is an American who literally petitioned the government for "more Haitians."



#dumbfvckDotardDonny
#mr.hypocrisy

Hey @BillyL .... horrible comment to make as the POTUS, I was disgusted. I have a brother in law from West Africa and, yes, a daughter who was born on the streets of Port au Prince. Those places are, for the most part, shitholes ... but the people are not.

Trump's comments, however, do not change my support of him due to his policy actions and the (IMO) wonderful direction that our country is headed. His off-the-cuff comments and Tweets are insignificant in the greater scope of things ... just like they were insignificant during the election. Actions/promises/ideas matter.
 
Trump's comments, however, do not change my support of him due to his policy actions and the (IMO) wonderful direction that our country is headed. His off-the-cuff comments and Tweets are insignificant in the greater scope of things ... just like they were insignificant during the election. Actions/promises/ideas matter.

Hmm, you mean you don't base your political opinions off who is a meanie on Twitter? What a novel idea.
 
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Bottom Line: Haiti is a shithole. El Salvador is a shithole. Guatemala, Belize, Nicaragua, and Panama and many areas of Mexico are shitholes. Most of Africa is a shithole. So, why do we need MORE of the absolute dreggs from these shitholes in the USA? Please, tell we why we need MORE of them, other than to bolster the electoral chances of DUMs now and in the future??? Why do we need more of a permanent underclass completely reliant on welfare benefits from the absolute get-go that will be a fiscal drain on federal and state budgets for decades??? Other than the imbecilic knee-jerk reaction that anyone who asks the hard question is a racist, try to take a whack at a real, honest answer....
 
It's on the State Department blotter of countries in which to exercise increased caution due to high crime = SHITHOLE. At ease.
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Very true. How does what is supposed to be one of the most trusted and advanced government institutions "LOSE" 5 months of text messages? Hell there's an app that allows parents to read their kids text.
I honestly don't know what you are talking about. Is this another Trump thing?
 
I honestly don't know what you are talking about. Is this another Trump thing?
Yeah, if you remember the two FBI agents bashing Trump via text? Well now they have lost 5 months of text messages between these two. They have also shown where the two agents mention a "secret Society" within the FBI in their text right before the lost text messages. And now congress has a whistle blower that has testified about this "secret society" and their meetings off site.
 
Yeah, if you remember the two FBI agents bashing Trump via text? Well now they have lost 5 months of text messages between these two. They have also shown where the two agents mention a "secret Society" within the FBI in their text right before the lost text messages. And now congress has a whistle blower that has testified about this "secret society" and their meetings off site.
Thanks. I'm trying to stay away from all things Trump unless it has to do with policy.
 
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