Shout out to the USMNT
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Honestly the best equalizer might be that this game will be on turf. Uneven bounces and stuff might throw off Argentina attacks that otherwise would be lethal.
...that's about all I got lol. Keep in mind that three starters we have used every game are suspended tonight -- Wood, Jones, Bedoya.
Argentina to advance is -600, and the USA is +400. I'm gonna guess 2-0 Argentina tonight.
Hmm. I'd throw a $25 spot on the U.S. at +400. I've got an okay feeling about the game. Sure, Messi is scary good, but if he has an off-night, no one else on Argentina is playing THAT good so far in this tourney.
Well played. I cannot be held responsible, however, if we lose 4-0.
What's your guy's line on Colombia vs. Chile tomorrow? I bet it's heavily inflated in Chile's favor.
To advance is Chile -125 and Columbia -105. Obviously the lines are different when you take the draw into account and only bet the 90' line.
Yeah, the "to advance" lines are always less appealing but that's a pretty terrible line both ways but especially for Colombia. I'd stay away from that line unless you wanna parlay it with the O/U or something.
Speaking of big lines like this Argentina one, how often -- if ever -- do you bet a sizable amount on a heavy favorite like that just to win a fraction of what you put down? Sometimes in the early rounds of those tennis tournaments, the favorites are like -1500 on the moneyline or something crazy like that. And if you can get a moneyline on college FB or BB games in real lopsided matchups, the favorite will be like -1800 to win.
Ya. The 90' lines are Chile +145, Columbia +195, Draw +210. So it's probably a better bet to take whatever team you like on that line - but if it goes to ET you're porked (unless you took the draw of course).
Very rarely bet a moneyline on anything that's that heavy of a favorite, especially those early round tennis lines. Anything -500 and above is pretty much too priced up for me. I got burned a few years ago taking Pacquiao on some -350 fight or something that he ended up losing. If something is that big of a favorite, and there is some sort of spread I'll take that. Like in baseball if its Arrieta at home against the Braves' worst pitcher and the Cubs are like -380, then I'm likely to take the Cubs -1.5 for like -175 or whatever it would be there. Same if its Bama against SE Missouri St., I don't think I'd ever lay the -2500 or whatever it is, I'd be more likely to lay the 35 points and just hope for a Bama blowout. I bet the $260 to win $100 on the Cavs winning the Eastern Conference this year because that was such a stone cold lock.
That said, if I'm the one collecting the juice I have no problem taking what is essentially a heavy favorite bet. Like this years March Madness I had a couple buddies that wanted teams that were around 15/1 or so. So I took those bets on myself - which meant I essentially had -1500 on Xavier (and some others) not winning the title.
Good job.
Sounds like you guys were on the end of one of Argentina's best collective performances in a good while.
At least the loss comes at the hands of the greatest player in history.
England are probably going to limp out of the European Championship against Hungary or someone similar.
At least the loss comes at the hands of the greatest player in history.
England are probably going to limp out of the European Championship against Hungary or someone similar.
Pump the brakes there, bro. Ronaldo > Messi.
Put Messi in the Prem and how many goals would he score? Way less than usual. That league ain't La Liga where they call fouls for breathing too hard on an opponent. Ronaldo dominated in EPL and I have way more respect for his game because of it. Messi's brittle little body would break on away trips to Stoke and Crystal Palace and West Ham.
I've never got the argument about Messi not being able to play in the Premier League, but...
Barcelona v Chelsea, 2005/06:
Terrible pitch, Mourinho ordered Chelsea to kick the crap out of a teenage Messi.
He still destroyed them.
I think people forget Messi grew up playing on the streets of Rosario. He can take a beating if needed, but players don't usually get close enough to him to kick him.
This is one thing that irks me about soccer lingo. Maybe this is even grammatically correct, but it just sounds weird to me. We use the plural when using the team nickname "The Tar Heels are" "The Bruins are" "The Braves are" etc. But when using the city/state/country name, we use the singular "North Carolina is" "Boston is" "Atlanta is" etc.
One game doesn't mean anything. I don't put a ton of stock in the Champions League in terms of evaluating which league(s) are superior.
You know this fact well, every game in the Prem is a grind. Every game is tough and is usually competitive. That ain't the case in Spain. It's Barca and Real and then a rotating cast of 1-2 other good squads, and then it's a bunch of shitty teams who pose no threat. Real and Barca do so well in Champions League because they breeze through league play and usually don't pick up as many injuries as other leagues because of how softly the game is officiated in Spain.
I will never believe Messi would've thrived in England.
It's not soccer lingo, it's British lingo. They love using the collective verb "are" with what should be a single entity.
Messi in the EPL would be like Danny Green on Paulus
Ah, fair enough. I thought I had heard it in regards to MLS teams and in non-British commentary on the Euro and World Cup and whatnot, but I could be mistaken.
Oh you may have, but that's probably just queerbaits like Bob Ley who want to sound British.
I think I've let my disdain for Bob Ley be known on this board before, but in case I didn't, I want to reiterate that he annoys me more than anyone else on ESPN. I hate Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith because they're blowhards, but Bob Ley is just such a bleeding vag I can't stand it.
I have a couple friends that work at ESPN, and apparently everyone there calls him "The General" (Bob Ley.... Robert E. Lee... get it). And he's like the most beloved employee there, so they can't understand how I hate him so much.
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