Not underestimating Markannen. I just think SKJ is the better player. I'm sure Markannen will be a solid college player.
SKJ to choose UK today
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Not underestimating Markannen. I just think SKJ is the better player. I'm sure Markannen will be a solid college player.
I think that " if they don't want to be here then we don 't want them" is a very true statement, at least for me it is. We're just looking at another Larry Drew or the Wear brothers if they don't want to be here. We don't need a cancer in the locker room or on the court, seems we have enough trouble as it is at the moment with other things. I would rather have players who actually want to play here, who's happy to be a Tar Heel, proud to be a Tar Heel! I would rather not win as many games and enjoy the season, than to win a couple more games and not enjoy Tar Heel basketball. So, if they truly don't want to be here, why would we cry because they went somewhere else. UNC just needs to get all this mess straightened out so they will actually "want" to play here.
It wouldn't be the end of the world . WCS sat behind Nerlens Noel his freshmen year .
Agree with everything you wrote.
Have to say, I hate seeing those names even appear on this board. I usually write "Larry Who" and the "Where are they now Twins" instead..... am I just being bitter?
Honest question swear I'm not trolling here...who have you guys signed since the NCAA decided to visit a second time?
I wonder if it's the kids afraid of probation or the parents. Something clearly is going on because you guys have always been the one to chase in recruiting.
I wonder if it's the kids afraid of probation or the parents. Something clearly is going on because you guys have always been the one to chase in recruiting.
Which one?..and if so, then that makes it hurt worse.. knowing that he would be willing to sit behind another freshman than a senior!!
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You will have to wait for the class to be complete before that possibility presents its self.
Dick-Do you have ties to V.E.S.? I am actually class of '92 there. The interesting thing to me about SKJ is that no one really wanted him, he was a 3 star kid, then UVa offered, and he jumped on it, now he is supposed to be the next elite PF? Not buying it. I also heard that he was not the best player on the team, which makes him to Kentucky a real head scratcher, but whatever!
@dadecodevil Class of '92, huh? There's a good chance you and I crossed paths back in high school (E.C. Glass, class of '93). I didn't attend V.E.S., but I had many friends that did. I take it you were a boarder and not a day student which would decrease the chances we might know each other. In the interests of keeping just a bit of anonymity not only for me but for them as well, I'll just do first names. If you knew them, then you'll know who I'm talking about. But I was friends with and still stay in touch with some of the following - Frank (a.k.a. FLT), Owen, Chris, Alan, Ben, Will, Mike and a few others. One or two of them would have been a year older than you. Most of them would have been your year and maybe one was a year behind you.
As far as SKJ, like I said, I was surprised by how willing Curtis was to discuss him and how he wasn't falling over himself to compliment his game. I felt that Curtis was almost dogging him. He really emphasized that SKJ had a lot to work on. I too find his recruitment and commitment to UK a bit puzzling as Cal usually can get the pick of the litter and I just don't think SKJ is an elite talent. Everybody goes pro from UK but I'll be surprised if we're ever watching SKJ play minutes in the NBA.
@gunslingerdick, of course I know all of them! I was a boarder, unlike most Duke fans, I am actually from Durham! Haha! I think we may have crossed paths! You might even have heard of the guys I ran ball with Tuffy, Jeff, Kevin, Stevie, Chris (now baseball coach at Duke) and even some of your guys like Sean West! I'm good with you knowing my name, Jamar. Interesting to find out that we had so much in common.
Regarding Staples, it could also be the phenomenon that this kid's head probably doesn't fit on our little campus, and he probably has developed a superhero complex. Staples seems like a good guy, and straight shooter, so not surprising to see him give his real two cents. Well, it was great talking to you. I love your posts during basketball season, and look forward to this year's back and forth!
I am definitely not blown away by SKJ. I do think he is a very good player but not the kind UK pursues so doggedly. I liked him for us because of the fact that he was a 4* and we have been missing on the top 15 types. UK has now committed schollies to he and Humphries and neither seems close to the one and done types they so adore. SKJ 247 #40 , Rivals #51 , Scout #47 and ESPN #56 not the usual ranking of a one and done or at least one that goes early.
With all do respect, those rankings (I could be mistaken) haven't been updated since the end of the summer. Those tracking SKJ's progress will tell you that it was his progression by the end of the summer period that have most folks excited. I personally think he's right on the edge of 5 star status. I wouldn't argue with anyone for having him just inside or out.
The difference IMO is where some "5 star" kids have shown their ceiling, SKJ has not.
The difference IMO is where some "5 star" kids have shown their ceiling, SKJ has not.
He would've been a decent "get", but as I said all along, I'll take Markannen as a true Stretch 4 any day.
Cal does not shy away from lesser rated players.
Remember Jr. WCS who just went lottery........seems no one wanted him 3 yr ago.
Marcus Lee (5*) returns for his Jr year in '15-16.
Humphries & SKJ are currently 40-50 rated.
If Cal is not satisfied, he will try for a top 10 front court man.
UK also has Tai Wynyard (New Zealand) coming in either for Spring on next Fall ..6'10'' 250#
Really, I think he will focus on wings and guards as we likely loose 2 or 3.
All the better big men seem to be on Duke's and UNC's shopping list also.
BTW..regarding ratings......Does anyone remember Murray's rating at this time last year? I don't..
Remember Jr. WCS who just went lottery........seems no one wanted him 3 yr ago.
Marcus Lee (5*) returns for his Jr year in '15-16.
Humphries & SKJ are currently 40-50 rated.
If Cal is not satisfied, he will try for a top 10 front court man.
UK also has Tai Wynyard (New Zealand) coming in either for Spring on next Fall ..6'10'' 250#
Really, I think he will focus on wings and guards as we likely loose 2 or 3.
All the better big men seem to be on Duke's and UNC's shopping list also.
BTW..regarding ratings......Does anyone remember Murray's rating at this time last year? I don't..
Hate Kentucky got this kid. SKJ blew up over the summer. He will no doubt be ranked higher when the ratings are updated. I think he is better than most of our options left except for Giles and Bam. Time to move on though.
Allen, Bradley, Bolden, DeLaurier, Huell and Markkanen are all better.... Complain if we don't land 1 of those kids..
We can't even get an official visit from delaurier and Princeton does...as he just set his officials up today!!
Not going to complain bro. Half of those kids you named we aren't in their top 3. Delaurier just set his officials and we aren't on the list. The only kid I think we have a legit shot at getting is Bradley and maybe Markkanen based on recent news. If you've seen SKJ play this summer then you know my argument is legit against your list.
A parent with the right priority............refreshing.........
I was a Bill Bradley fan.......on to Oxford....let the NBA wait.
Delaurier just recently had a visit with us. Was it official? No, but I think that may be the reason he hasn't set an official with us. I don't think he has gone out to see the schools he set an official with yet. And if we land Bradley and Markkanen, that would be better than SKJ/Bradley or SKJ/Markkanen. I've seen some 2017 NBA mock drafts where Markkanen is already in the top 20.
I'm not sold that Bradley is better than SKJ but I get what you are saying. If we land Badley and Markkanen I will definitely be happy.
Only if we land Giles.........but I still think he would
play ahead of Lee (if he returns) and the Aussie.
I think you guys are going to be pleasantly surprised with Humphries. SKJ might be longer and more athletic but I reckon first practice Isaac will put him on his backside, the kid has a mean streak - not quite like Bogut did as a teen, but pretty intense none the less.
Given that Humphries will have a years experience on SKJ, you could be right.
If Humphries, SKJ and Wynyard (who enrolls Dec '15) are all we have. (assuming Lee may jump)
both will start and all 3 will get plenty pt.
The 4th man would be Senior Willis, thus Cal is looking for an addition, hopeful a 5* (Giles) would be just fine.
Getting Giles out of your state would be a miracle.
Back to Humphries.....hoping he will be another Jorts Harrellson.....Cousins, he's not.
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