Bunting had Durant. And Matt Baker made an NFL team. Lack of a top QB was from the biggest need in those days.
Spurrier retires, effective immediately!
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I'm not saying we didn't have good QBs....I'm saying Spurrier actually would have been able to recruit good ones here whereas he couldn't at SCar
Well, I understand some people would have loved him and I have no doubt he could have done a lot more here than he ever accomplished at little carolina. Still, an argument could be made that, using that logic, we should have gone after Calipari when Roy turned us down the first time. I doubt ANYONE would have wanted that.
At some point it has to be about more than winning. For me it is about character. If you do something stupid to piss off an entire fanbase you are, in a way, signalling that you don't give a rat's arse about that place and would never find yourself personally attached to it. For me, him doing what he did when he was at dook was either extremely childish and something a young and foolish coach would do or it was because he genuinely didn't care for us. Either way, I wouldn't have liked him as our coach. Perhaps I would have changed my mind at some point, but I guess we'll never know.
Anyway, he is gone from little carolina for whatever reason and he won't be our coach anytime soon so I guess I won't have to worry about whether or not I could come to like him.
At some point it has to be about more than winning. For me it is about character. If you do something stupid to piss off an entire fanbase you are, in a way, signalling that you don't give a rat's arse about that place and would never find yourself personally attached to it. For me, him doing what he did when he was at dook was either extremely childish and something a young and foolish coach would do or it was because he genuinely didn't care for us. Either way, I wouldn't have liked him as our coach. Perhaps I would have changed my mind at some point, but I guess we'll never know.
Anyway, he is gone from little carolina for whatever reason and he won't be our coach anytime soon so I guess I won't have to worry about whether or not I could come to like him.
the latter...feelers were put out two years ago, i'm told...i don't see why he's so special, especially lately...noticed his teams' defenses?...he's not bringing cochran, kiffin, or tucker...he's just a guy facilitating, imo.
if i'm scarolina, i go after fuente or doc holliday.
guys, this attitude toward him is a little odd...we, for years, have wanted coaches to stand up to other coaches and programs...spurrier took a photo at kenan and said blake had a history...are you guys really so butt hurt about that or is it because he is exactly who he is(prior to today)?...folks loved when withers stood up to state, and it backfired because he was clueless and had zero leadership capabilities...bunting stood up to amato, and it got him canned because he was just not a head coach.
i don't get it...spurrier took florida, a horrible program, and won titles...he told bowden to his face that his team hit his qb's late(fact)...he embarrassed successful georgia's coaches, fulmer, both florida rivals, and did it with a simple message; he was putting in 2nd & 3rd string in but they were still trying to score.
what he did today though was completely out of character...he quit
i don't get it...spurrier took florida, a horrible program, and won titles...he told bowden to his face that his team hit his qb's late(fact)...he embarrassed successful georgia's coaches, fulmer, both florida rivals, and did it with a simple message; he was putting in 2nd & 3rd string in but they were still trying to score.
what he did today though was completely out of character...he quit
Is it really so hard to believe people find him unlikeable? Here, read this. It sums up my feelings about the man pretty darn well.
Good Coach yes , jerk , narcissist , egomaniac , sore loser , liar yes to all. Those of you who want to bow down and kiss his rear end , then go ahead but don't expect me in that line.
I loved to hate Old Shiny Pants.
Although he never won a game in Tallahassee, he made a fierce rivalry even better, His grimaces, lip twisting, and visor throwing were a joy to watch.
The FSU AD weighed in..."
"It would probably be good if somebody just spanked him and put him to bed and hope he wakes up all grown up," athletic director David Hart Jr. said.
Stevil was witty, could not be managed, and had many qualities that I admired.
Friends come and go...enemies are forever and are treasured.
Go in peace, Stevil...I'll miss your press conferences.
Although he never won a game in Tallahassee, he made a fierce rivalry even better, His grimaces, lip twisting, and visor throwing were a joy to watch.
The FSU AD weighed in..."
"It would probably be good if somebody just spanked him and put him to bed and hope he wakes up all grown up," athletic director David Hart Jr. said.
Stevil was witty, could not be managed, and had many qualities that I admired.
Friends come and go...enemies are forever and are treasured.
Go in peace, Stevil...I'll miss your press conferences.
Calipari is knowingly dirty. Spurier is not dirty; he is simply a knowing smart ass punk who likes to spit in the eyes of foes and then taunt them about it.
Spurier is very much like Steve Jobs that way.
I guess I can see how people would find Spurrier unlikable. But I don't think that linked article is fair. First of all, he continues to cite the conversation between Dooley and Spurrier. That writer doesn't know their relationship. Between friends, Spurrier's comment about passing Dooley is friendly ribbing. He also didn't put any context around it.
Secondly, the whole running up the score thing is ridiculous. It's not on the leading team to back off. If the leading team has put in 2nd and 3rd stringers, they've done the right thing. The coach can't tell guys that want to play to continuously take a knee. That's not fair to those players. It's on the losing coach to stop the winning team. I've never bought into "running up the score". You play until the final whistle.
Lastly, again, I feel there's more to this story than Spurrier just "quitting". This guy doesn't even entertain the idea that there was more behind the scenes. He seems eager to want to call Spurrier a quitter despite the idea that there could have been pressure from the AD.
And for the record, I totally buy what Spurrier said in his presser - something to the effect of - "I've never undewrstood why coaches announce this will be my last year. When you do that, you lose accountability". That makes perfect sense - especially with this era's entitled players. Why would they continue to listen to a guy that won't be around next year?
But I don't begrudge anyone for not liking the HBC. But just say you don't like his smartalec demeanor. Don't try to paint him as something he may not be.
He probably got the context he needed about their relationship from the way in which Dooley related the story.
Your assumption is that Spurrier always put in 2nd and 3rd stringers. He didn't. We're also talking about a guy who was leading 45-17 in Athens, killing clock until he heard no opponent had ever scored 50 in Sanford Stadium. So he cranked the offense back up and scored a passing TD with 1:21 remaining to win 52-17.
As far as announcing a last year, that's easy. Resign or retire after the season is over. That way he ensures accountability until the day he steps down.
it might not get out, but he tried to resign/retire after 2014
LOL. I'm not his brother.
All I'm saying is this is football. Put on your big boy pants. If you want a team to stop scoring, then stop them from scoring. And I still maintain that there's more to this than the HBC just not wanting to post a losing season. If I find out with certainty that there were no other issues (players revolting, AD pressure, etc), then I might change my opinion a bit. But still, this is football - not a congeniality contest.
has carolina ever scored 50 @ state or @ dook?
who on here would be okay with trubisky throwing it up 44-17 this year @ state, or henderson next year in durham?...what about @ uva or @ vatech?
who on here would be okay with trubisky throwing it up 44-17 this year @ state, or henderson next year in durham?...what about @ uva or @ vatech?
Scored 52 vs moo in 96. Hit Dook multiple times for 50 in the modern era. Pretty sure we hit moo more times for 50+ than just in 96, but I can't pull it from memory right now. Hit for 65 once vs. uva.
If we can hang 70 on Moo, do it. Dook, Weak, et al...just do everything over 50 w/ the reserves, assuming we are up 4+ TDs.
I know I'm prejudiced towards Mack, but the way OBS treated Mack was the one time I think OBS truly crossed the line...b/c he made that PERSONAL, and Mack tried to be a gentleman, and OBS just kept inserting the needle (the constant references to Mr. Football, "I've won as many games on that field as he has", etc.). Then when Mack was in a position to fight back like a coach does, w/ LEGIT teams that could compete, OBS hauls @ss to UF. The FSU, UT, and Clemson stuff was always aimed at the school in general (maybe he and Dabo went at each other personally a bit).
W/ re: to Mack, OBS came off like, well, an Ole Ball Sack. The rest, it seemed more like pro wrestling: staged entertainment.
W/ re: to Mack, OBS came off like, well, an Ole Ball Sack. The rest, it seemed more like pro wrestling: staged entertainment.
Dabo came out with a statement saying the game of college football is worse today than before the HBC left. He was very classy in his remarks about Spurrier and said that they had become friends and he enjoyed Spurrier in the time he spent with him at camps and whatnot. I think fans take comments a little too seriously while coaches know the deal.
LOL a lot of hypocrites in this thread. Every last one of you would have loved it if, instead, Mack did the photo-op at Duke or at State after a big win.
And every last one of you would love if Fedora reached the highest ever points scored by an opposition at Carter-Finley Stadium. Tell me I'm wrong.
Hell yeah I would've wanted Spurrier. "I want our coach to have high character" is exactly why we hire buffoons like Bunting. I don't give a crap if you're a jerk or a saint, just win baby win. This is football, not a got damn Miss Congeniality contest. Sheesh
And every last one of you would love if Fedora reached the highest ever points scored by an opposition at Carter-Finley Stadium. Tell me I'm wrong.
Hell yeah I would've wanted Spurrier. "I want our coach to have high character" is exactly why we hire buffoons like Bunting. I don't give a crap if you're a jerk or a saint, just win baby win. This is football, not a got damn Miss Congeniality contest. Sheesh
I realize people may interpret "running up the score" differently. I draw the line when it appears there is a deliberate attempt to embarrass the losing team by scoring again. In 1989, with the score 41-0, Spurrier's dook team attempted a double (could have been triple) reverse pass against us in an attempt to score again. I think Ben Bennett was still in but I don't remember that part. Anyway, it didn't work, but I have strongly disliked Spurrier ever since. (That was before I knew about the scoreboard photo.) Two years ago when we played South Carolina in Columbia, we were down 27-10 in the last minute and they attempted a bomb that Spurrier tried to explain away afterward as an attempt to get a kid from North Carolina a catch or something. I'm sure there have been similar instances like these against other schools. I'll give you the guy was a great coach, but, IMO, a major prick.
Moo U
52-20 (1996, home)
dook
52-17 (2001, home)
59-21 (2000, away)
50-14 (1997, home)
59-34 (1970, home)
50-0 (1959, away)
As for the second part, you raise a good point. It's a dick move, but I would applaud it nonetheless. Guilty as charged.
Well you're wrong. I for one knownthe value of not showing up your opponent. As do most coaches. Never give an opponent an excuse for getting up for your game. Its precisely the reason players stfu and dont brag or make predictions. As do most coaches.....except spurrier. If any unc coach kept starters in and ran reverses in the 4th quarter of a blowout against a rival i would call them a fking classless idiot.
sorry, but the day carolina gets to the point of being hated on the football field because they are beating the hell out of the opponent, sign me up.
and based on the number of times the program has whipped a rival as posted above, i'm kind of surprised more wouldn't want to be darth vader for a decade.
and based on the number of times the program has whipped a rival as posted above, i'm kind of surprised more wouldn't want to be darth vader for a decade.
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Right? I want to run up the score on Moo, even after the final whistle, until security makes us leave.
I just wanted to take a moment to interrupt this thread and say that every time I see someone on here say Ole Ball Sack, I get completely overwhelmed with uncontrollable laughter. You may now carry on.
LMFAO at your Spurrier Apologist stance. Big difference between us the fans(who hate the rival) wanting it done and the coach (who has to interact with the rival) actually doing it.
Don't tell the Mrs. or she'll start saying Ole Ball Sack every time you get that gleam in your eye.
What Mrs.?
*crawls back into hole and sobs*
I wouldn't get all worked up about that Cool.
And as far as the Ol Ball Sack, can't wait to see him pop up again at another school. The south cackalacky meltdown will be biblical in scale.
Now that would be funny, especially if he turned his barbs on SoCar and its fans.
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