Stats and stuff (UVA game)...

[gary-7]

......and so there's no mistake, I'll start by saying that UVA played very well. They executed their style and were scrappy for loose balls. But anyway...

This afternoon I showed an ex-coach buddy our season team Assist/TO ratio. His response was "Wow!". After all, 1.71/1 for a team that plays at our pace is nothing short of astounding. Well, I wish I hadn't done that --- I think I jinxed us. I know we were trying to quick-pass out of baseline doubles, but geez. Brice air-mailed a few that were head-scratchers. Now granted, many of our other TOs had um, shall we say, help of the striped variety, but those unforced errors flat-out hurt. You just cannot do that in Charlottesville.

- We allowed too much on the offensive glass. No way this edition of UVA should get 13 offensive boards on us. No way.

- Brogdon was terrific in the first half --- nearly their entire offense in the opening minutes. Theo, who was so good on Barber Wednesday, couldn't do anything with him, nor could Justin. Ironically our little guys fared better. Berry guarded him in switches 4 times in the first half and 3 of those times Brogdon tried to take JB to the rack and came up with the ball going the other way all 3 times. Marcus did a decent job on him in the second half.

- Roy coached a good game and switched up D nicely. Unfortunately there are some things outside a coach's control.

- That being said, this is a game, given UVA's style and personnel, Big Joel just should never have seen the floor. Yikes.

- They managed to play the game at their pace too much of the time. I only counted 3 Fast Break pts for us. We had 29 Secondary Break pts but many of those were off made shots. We never controlled the glass well enough to really get running.

- The good news is (especially given the conditions) we shot better than 49% from the floor and made 9 3s at a 47.4% clip. That should be good enough to win pretty much any night. The bad news was at the FT line, an uncharacteristic 7/13 (53.8%) and some missed front-ends.

- JB was a warrior on both ends. 35 minutes, 21 pts, 5 Boards, 3 Assists (5 more blown) and 3 Steals. Berry hit 5 3-balls on the night and flat kept us in the game in the first half... oh, and he took the ball to the rack strong several times, often ending up on the floor, yet somehow --- somehow --- had 0 FT attempts.

- Speaking of taking the ball to the rack, Marcus did so as well, often ending up on the floor yet, somehow --- somehow --- only got 2 FT attempts (and those came on a loose ball foul on the other end).

- So, in numerical summary, we made more total FGs than them (29-27) and with a better pct. We made the same number of 2-pointers (20-20) but we made more 3s than them (9-7). In other words we outscored them 67-61 from the field.

- One guess where the deficit was: Yep, the FT line. (7-18). And there it is...




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[2DDIMOND]

......and so there's no mistake, I'll start by saying that UVA played very well. They executed their style and were scrappy for loose balls. But anyway...

This afternoon I showed an ex-coach buddy our season team Assist/TO ratio. His response was "Wow!". After all, 1.71/1 for a team that plays at our pace is nothing short of astounding. Well, I wish I hadn't done that --- I think I jinxed us. I know we were trying to quick-pass out of baseline doubles, but geez. Brice air-mailed a few that were head-scratchers. Now granted, many of our other TOs had um, shall we say, help of the striped variety, but those unforced errors flat-out hurt. You just cannot do that in Charlottesville.

- We allowed too much on the offensive glass. No way this edition of UVA should get 13 offensive boards on us. No way.

- Brogdon was terrific in the first half --- nearly their entire offense in the opening minutes. Theo, who was so good on Barber Wednesday, couldn't do anything with him, nor could Justin. Ironically our little guys fared better. Berry guarded him in switches 4 times in the first half and 3 of those times Brogdon tried to take JB to the rack and came up with the ball going the other way all 3 times. Marcus did a decent job on him in the second half.

- Roy coached a good game and switched up D nicely. Unfortunately there are some things outside a coach's control.

- That being said, this is a game, given UVA's style and personnel, Big Joel just should never have seen the floor. Yikes.

- They managed to play the game at their pace too much of the time. I only counted 3 Fast Break pts for us. We had 29 Secondary Break pts but many of those were off made shots. We never controlled the glass well enough to really get running.

- The good news is (especially given the conditions) we shot better than 49% from the floor and made 9 3s at a 47.4% clip. That should be good enough to win pretty much any night. The bad news was at the FT line, an uncharacteristic 7/13 (53.8%) and some missed front-ends.

- JB was a warrior on both ends. 35 minutes, 21 pts, 5 Boards, 3 Assists (5 more blown) and 3 Steals. Berry hit 5 3-balls on the night and flat kept us in the game in the first half... oh, and he took the ball to the rack strong several times, often ending up on the floor, yet somehow --- somehow --- had 0 FT attempts.

- Speaking of taking the ball to the rack, Marcus did so as well, often ending up on the floor yet, somehow --- somehow --- only got 2 FT attempts (and those came on a loose ball foul on the other end).

- So, in numerical summary, we made more total FGs than them (29-27) and with a better pct. We made the same number of 2-pointers (20-20) but we made more 3s than them (9-7). In other words we outscored them 67-61 from the field.

- One guess where the deficit was: Yep, the FT line. (7-18). And there it is...




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I never like to get into the zebra conversation, but tonight I definitely think UVA got the whistle. I don't even think it's arguable. The offensive foul on Berry in the 1st half & the rebound foul on JJ in the 2nd were 2 of the biggest head scratchers of the entire season.

 

[coryfly]

PGs still not doing a good enough job getting the ball to the post when it matters. Our wings are much better at it than any of our PGs. Still, the key for us going forward IMO has to start with defensive rebounding. Just a consistent issue that is killing this team in many games.

We made a bunch of mistakes but also made 9 threes. So while there were plenty of reasons to say we should have won there is also at least one that kept us in it that usually doesn't happen.

However, that is a really tough place to play and they hung in there. I like our chances if we see them on a neutral court.

 

[Tru Blu Tar Heel]

PGs still not doing a good enough job getting the ball to the post when it matters. Our wings are much better at it than any of our PGs. Still, the key for us going forward IMO has to start with defensive rebounding. Just a consistent issue that is killing this team in many games.

We made a bunch of mistakes but also made 9 threes. So while there were plenty of reasons to say we should have won there is also at least one that kept us in it that usually doesn't happen.

However, that is a really tough place to play and they hung in there. I like our chances if we see them on a neutral court.

I think the PG entry to the post is partially due to the PG's and partially due to the wings. IIRC, in years past, the wing player is supposed to either cut or drift more toward the corner when the PG is trying to relocate. Can't get the angle needed for a good entry from the top of the key.

 

[coryfly]

I think the PG entry to the post is partially due to the PG's and partially due to the wings. IIRC, in years past, the wing player is supposed to either cut or drift more toward the corner when the PG is trying to relocate. Can't get the angle needed for a good entry from the top of the key.

Some of it. Spacing is certainly an issue at times in more ways than one. Sometimes it is there and they just don't throw it in for whatever reason. I don't know if they are not confident or their height impedes them but sometimes we do a poor job when our bigs have position.

 

[gary-7]

I think the PG entry to the post is partially due to the PG's and partially due to the wings. IIRC, in years past, the wing player is supposed to either cut or drift more toward the corner when the PG is trying to relocate. Can't get the angle needed for a good entry from the top of the key.

And teams overplay the Point entry in half-court Offense. Cory's point there is incorrect. The more we are in transition the more clean early entries we get. In halfcourt you get more on swings and reversals.
Some of that is on our Bigs as well. They are not the best at flashing and sealing. JB is a terrific entry passer but teams know pounding the post is our bread and butter.

 

[coryfly]

And teams overplay the Point entry in half-court Offense. Cory's point there is incorrect. The more we are in transition the more clean early entries we get. In halfcourt you get more on swings and reversals.
Some of that is on our Bigs as well. They are not the best at flashing and sealing. JB is a terrific entry passer but teams know pounding the post is our bread and butter.

No, it is not incorrect. There have been plenty of opportunities this year to feed the post when guys have the position they should and our guards hesitate. Then it is too late. Berry is not a great entry passer. None of our PGs are. They are ok at times but none of them are great at it. Believe it or not, as good as Berry is, he isn't perfect.

 

[gary-7]

No, it is not incorrect. There have been plenty of opportunities this year to feed the post when guys have the position they should and our guards hesitate. Then it is too late. Berry is not a great entry passer. None of our PGs are. They are ok at times but none of them are great at it. Believe it or not, as good as Berry is, he isn't perfect.

GMAB. Never said he was perfect and thats a silly response, dude.
The fact is there's more at work here than you are accounting for. And there is no Big on this team who can flash and seal like Psycho or Sean or Big Z.

 

[coryfly]

GMAB. Never said he was perfect and thats a silly response, dude.
The fact is there's more at work here than you are accounting for. And there is no Big on this team who can flash and seal like Psycho or Sean or Big Z.

Yeah, I get the variables. I am accounting for them. I know a little about the game as well. Berry is solid there. He is. Still, too many times all of our guards, including him, have waited too long or not taken the extra dribble to the right spot or whatever they needed to do to get it to a big that has their guy sealed. No doubt the bigs sometimes need to do a better job as well. Not always though. It is easy for them all at times. Other times they have to do a better job. I was a PG so tend to hold them to a little big of a higher standard for sure. They have the ball. There is more they can do to get the ball where it needs to go. We need that to happen in these type games.

 

[coryfly]

I also think it is time to really look at having Berry play off the ball. I think he has shown enough that they should feel great about him there next year. it also isn't indicative of his play as he has been very good for UNC this year. Very good. However, Paige has to get going and the sample size is large enough (not to mention Paige's own words) that we need to try something. I don't want Berry or Paige playing less but wouldn't mind seeing them switch just to see if it sparks Marcus. Plus, Berry can obviously shoot just fine so getting him looks there isn't a bad thing obviously.

 

[imajericho]

Rather bench paige for pinson before take berry out the point.

 

[coryfly]

Rather bench paige for pinson before take berry out the point.

I get not wanting to move Joel around. I like Berry at the point. I think he has been great this year. He should have everyone optimistic for our chances next year to be better than many think. However, if the number one factor for this team is Paige, which many think it is, we have to try to get him going. The things he has said make it seem like he is more comfortable there. I would prefer to go that route with all he has given us and with how important he is to their title chances. Plus, I think Berry would be fine off the ball. I don't see where it works to have Paige there but wouldn't work to have Berry there. I think Berry would do just fine. I don't think there is any way Paige will be benched and do not think he should be.

At the very least, let Paige run point when he is paired with Britt. See if it makes a difference. It seemed to work well with Miami, though I know everything worked well there. He needs to play some at that position though IMO.

 

[gary-7]

I get not wanting to move Joel around. I like Berry at the point. I think he has been great this year. He should have everyone optimistic for our chances next year to be better than many think. However, if the number one factor for this team is Paige, which many think it is, we have to try to get him going. The things he has said make it seem like he is more comfortable there. I would prefer to go that route with all he has given us and with how important he is to their title chances. Plus, I think Berry would be fine off the ball. I don't see where it works to have Paige there but wouldn't work to have Berry there. I think Berry would do just fine. I don't think there is any way Paige will be benched and do not think he should be.

At the very least, let Paige run point when he is paired with Britt. See if it makes a difference. It seemed to work well with Miami, though I know everything worked well there. He needs to play some at that position though IMO.

I was a PG as well, and in literally every camp I ever worked as a coach I was assigned the entry pass station because, well, teaching that was my rep. And if you ever have the (very dubious) pleasure of watching a game with me you would normally be subjected to me admonishing "get it to him!" or "there it is!" whenever a Big seals or has his man on his hip and shows a free hand. That literally happened once tonight.

For example, while many dog on Kennedy for other things, my biggest issue with him is not using that big ass to pin his man in the paint, because the basic adage is (unless your Big is a spot-up shooter or a face-up guy like Hicks) if he can't get into the paint with a drop-step then an entry pass is likely a waste of time.

As for position, Marcus has the green light from Roy to assume point or create pretty much any time he wants and JB willingly defers when he wants to do that. Now, I agree Nate is best for us at 2 --- that's what he does when he's on the floor with Berry and I would rather see him do the same when he's on the floor with Marcus. Other than that I think that's a non-issue.

The reality is no matter who is where, any time teams have time to set up their D against Carolina, if they have any sense they're gonna deny first-pass block post entries. Feeding the low post is a Carolina trademark going back to Dean and thus denying that is priority-one for pretty much anyone who scouts us. Bottom line is when we are able to move the defense by pushing transition or by using reversals, hi-lo, and/or wing entries, we get more clean entries. As much as I love some of the things this current crop of our top Bigs can do (they're good passers and have good individual scoring skills), sound post-up technique is just not their forte... nor is interior screening for each other.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

- Roy coached a good game and switched up D nicely. Unfortunately there are some things outside a coach's control.

- That being said, this is a game, given UVA's style and personnel, Big Joel just should never have seen the floor. Yikes.

These are two of my 3 issues with Roy that have been ongoing this year (and in past seasons). The third being calling timeouts. He seemed to use his TOs well in this game, so that's good. I also have been wanting him to make in game adjustments, especially on D, and that 1-3-1 look that he changed into was a great adjustment IMO. But as you mentioned James, as well as Luke and Kenny getting minutes they didn't need to get in this game, and to have some of the lineups that we had in this game, continues to rear its ugly head.

Roy has seemingly adjusted in the other two facets I mentioned, and if he can go back to not subbing out the majority of our starters at the same time, and shortening the rotation (two things he did successfully against State), I think this team still has a high ceiling in the NCAAT. If he refuses to change that, who knows.

 

[bleeduncblue]

I will personally chip in some cash toward the airfare or whatever the costs are for Cory and Gary to watch a game together ... as long as we're allowed to observe this on a split screen with the game

 

[gobblercalls]

I only wish Roy had half the knowledge that some of these posters think they have! We'd never lose another game.

 

[DeanFor President]

The way that game was being called last night, I really wanted Roy to pick up a strategic technical. We were absolutely not getting the same whistles they were. Our guards were continually bumped off their line, Gill is pretty much fouling all the time and dating them to call it. And some of the phantom calls on us were just nonexistent. I'm ready to see Roy let them know he's had enough of it.

 

[imajericho]

I get not wanting to move Joel around. I like Berry at the point. I think he has been great this year. He should have everyone optimistic for our chances next year to be better than many think. However, if the number one factor for this team is Paige, which many think it is, we have to try to get him going. The things he has said make it seem like he is more comfortable there. I would prefer to go that route with all he has given us and with how important he is to their title chances. Plus, I think Berry would be fine off the ball. I don't see where it works to have Paige there but wouldn't work to have Berry there. I think Berry would do just fine. I don't think there is any way Paige will be benched and do not think he should be.

At the very least, let Paige run point when he is paired with Britt. See if it makes a difference. It seemed to work well with Miami, though I know everything worked well there. He needs to play some at that position though IMO.

Paige struggled last year and he was the 1 last year.

 

[coryfly]

Oh, I would watch a game with anyone here. It would be fantastic. Disagreement doesn't bother me or hurt my feelings or anything. Many times this year our points haven't done their part along with the bigs. It isn't really a tonight issue. I didn't notice of much either. It was going to be tough against them regardless. Still, thought there were at least a few times after the rotation they could have read where they were going and changed the angle to make it more likely to feed them. A really good PG can get the ball down low even is the seal isn't perfect. This team isn't great at getting the ball down low when we have guys sealed. Not terrible but need to be better. I don't think this is even that controversial.

 

[coryfly]

Paige struggled last year and he was the 1 last year.

He didn't struggle like this.

 

[imajericho]

He didn't struggle like this.

Again. If you look at his %s. He has had an even decline each year since his sophmore year.

And not playing the 1 doesn't make his FT% drop.

It is very clear, Marcus has just slowly regressed on his ability to shoot and that has nothing to do with being the 1.

If we need to post the numbers again to show the clear downward regressiom since his sophmore year over the last 2 years we can. It is a steadly slope downwards.

 

[coryfly]

Small and steady I believe though. This year is different. He wants to be the point. He is more comfortable. I don't think it would hurt, even if it is just when Berry is out.

 

[gary-7]

I will personally chip in some cash toward the airfare or whatever the costs are for Cory and Gary to watch a game together ... as long as we're allowed to observe this on a split screen with the game

I don't know that I would wish that on anybody. I still think I'm on the sideline .

 

[gary-7]

I only wish Roy had half the knowledge that some of these posters think they have! We'd never lose another game.

Ah, another brilliant insight...

 

[gary-7]

The way that game was being called last night, I really wanted Roy to pick up a strategic technical. We were absolutely not getting the same whistles they were. Our guards were continually bumped off their line, Gill is pretty much fouling all the time and dating them to call it. And some of the phantom calls on us were just nonexistent. I'm ready to see Roy let them know he's had enough of it.

Early in the second half there was a terrible sequence that was capped off by Kennedy getting absolutely hammered with of course no call. There were two camera shots that followed that told the tale. One was Meeks running back down the court having to pull his right thumb back into the socket, and the other was Roy shaking his head ruefully with an expression that said "these clowns shouldn't be reffing a dadgummed church league game".

I do agree I would like to see Roy work the refs harder --- Bennett sure as hell gave 'em the business. I've harped on the theme that however a game's being called you have to play through it --- well, sometimes it gets to be too much, especially having to play on the road against a very good team while you're at it. We did a lot of good things Saturday, but as Roy said, we didn't do a good enough job on the defensive glass and we let them get too many extra shots --- and given the way that one was being called, let's just say we didn't have any margin of error if we were gonna grab a win up there.

I think Cory is right that I like our chances against them on a neutral court.

 

[BillyL]

Paige struggled last year and he was the 1 last year.

Paige struggled because he played while he was hurt last year . . he started at the 1 because Berry wasn't ready, Joel did not become a viable option until late in the season.

Marcus has said he plays more comfortably at the point, take a player out of his comfort zone and you won't have the same production. The Paige at 2Guard has become a failed experiment.
Looking at the overall picture, it was Roy's failure to successfully recruit and secure a shooting guard that has forced hi to play MP out of position. To all those claiming last summer that Marcus is/was/should be a college shooting guard . . you got it wrong. He gets abused on the defensive end by bigger SGs, being only 6'1" and 165 lbs. doesn't cut it against the Allens, Brogdons and those others similar in size.
Marcus is surpressing his discontent and has kept his mouth shut about playing the 2 spot, he is doing so because he is the ultimate team player.
UNC doesn't have a natural 2 besides Theo . . so whadda you do . . ? Moving Jax to the 2 only empties out the 3, so you're stuck between rock and hard place.

 

[imajericho]

Excuses for Paige are getting old. Struggled cuz hurt. Struggling to shoot cuz playing the shooting guard spot. When does it end?

He needs to just show up. It is all a matter of confidence.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Again. If you look at his %s. He has had an even decline each year since his sophmore year.

If we need to post the numbers again to show the clear downward regressiom since his sophmore year over the last 2 years we can. It is a steadly slope downwards.

I think Marcus having been injured last year and out of position this year is just as likely as he's just "lost it" as you're saying. We know him playing the 2 isn't working. I think it's crazy to just sit around after a sample size of 30 games and just hope he turns it around at the 2.

You may be right that moving him back to get a good amount of PG minutes wouldn't solve the problems, but we don't actually know until we try. That makes me somewhat nervous that moving Berry around might mess him up as well, but that has nothing to do with whether it would help Paige or not.

 

[ChapelHeeled]

Paige struggled last year and he was the 1 last year.

Basketball-Idiotic Post Of The Year...

 

[ChapelHeeled]

I think Marcus having been injured last year and out of position this year is just as likely as he's just "lost it" as you're saying. We know him playing the 2 isn't working. I think it's crazy to just sit around after a sample size of 30 games and just hope he turns it around at the 2.

You may be right that moving him back to get a good amount of PG minutes wouldn't solve the problems, but we don't actually know until we try. That makes me somewhat nervous that moving Berry around might mess him up as well, but that has nothing to do with whether it would help Paige or not.

...and Paige has played much more PG lately. Pay attention if possible?! ...

 

[gary-7]

I think Marcus having been injured last year and out of position this year is just as likely as he's just "lost it" as you're saying. We know him playing the 2 isn't working. I think it's crazy to just sit around after a sample size of 30 games and just hope he turns it around at the 2.

You may be right that moving him back to get a good amount of PG minutes wouldn't solve the problems, but we don't actually know until we try. That makes me somewhat nervous that moving Berry around might mess him up as well, but that has nothing to do with whether it would help Paige or not.

Do y'all not realize all this speculation flunks even the face validity test? Nothing in the position change is reponsible for Marcus's production. In fact it has produced 5 players (nearly 6) averaging double figures, a historically excellent team Assist/TO ratio, and the team not having to rely on one player. It has also gotten him to his healthiest since his Sophomore season. Marcus and the team were also better last season when he teamed with JB and played the 2, btw. He is getting more than enough good looks this season. This invented idea that he is unhappy and supressing it is also amusing.
Good grief

 

[Heelicious]

Do y'all not realize all this speculation flunks even the face validity test? Nothing in the position change is reponsible for Marcus's production. In fact it has produced 5 players (nearly 6) averaging double figures, a historically excellent team Assist/TO ratio, and the team not having to rely on one player. It has also gotten him to his healthiest since his Sophomore season. Marcus and the team were also better last season when he teamed with JB and played the 2. He is getting more than enough good looks this season. This invented idea that he is unhappy and supressing it is also amusing.
Good grief

Agreed. When Marcus takes good squared up shots in rhythm and follows through with good form, he shoots a good enough % still. What hurts is that he seems to force shots a bit too much, and in those forced shots, he is closely guarded, drifting left / right, not squared up, double pumping, just not clean looking shots fundamentally. That, and he seems to have a lot fewer chances, and less success, driving and finishing at the rim. He hasn't gotten smaller obviously, but seems not big and strong enough to consistently prevail over the brutal banging that is allowed against him when he drives the lane. Doesn't help that the lane is often clogged, and we don't set enough picks for him and Berry going to the hole, as someone else said.

But to blame his decline in shooting / scoring on whether he plays the 1, 2, or any position number you want to pick, is crazy. Is he getting enough shots? Yes, but more should be driving to the hole. But he gets plenty of chances with the ball in his hands out on the perimeter, where you can think of him as a de facto second point guard if you wish. He can create his own shot or pass to whoever he wants, just like a PG. But I seriously doubt he's saying "man if I were PG I'd be getting more shots, better shots, I'd handle the ball more...... and my shots would go in more if someone called me a 1 guard vs. a 2 guard". That is crazy. The ball and hoop are the same size, either way. You're facing the same defenders too. People aren't going to guard him differently at the 1 vs. the 2.

 

[gary-7]

Agreed. When Marcus takes good squared up shots in rhythm and follows through with good form, he shoots a good enough % still. What hurts is that he seems to force shots a bit too much, and in those forced shots, he is closely guarded, drifting left / right, not squared up, double pumping, just not clean looking shots fundamentally. That, and he seems to have a lot fewer chances, and less success, driving and finishing at the rim. He hasn't gotten smaller obviously, but seems not big and strong enough to consistently prevail over the brutal banging that is allowed against him when he drives the lane. Doesn't help that the lane is often clogged, and we don't set enough picks for him and Berry going to the hole, as someone else said.

But to blame his decline in shooting / scoring on whether he plays the 1, 2, or any position number you want to pick, is crazy. Is he getting enough shots? Yes, but more should be driving to the hole. But he gets plenty of chances with the ball in his hands out on the perimeter, where you can think of him as a de facto second point guard if you wish. He can create his own shot or pass to whoever he wants, just like a PG. But I seriously doubt he's saying "man if I were PG I'd be getting more shots, better shots, I'd handle the ball more...... and my shots would go in more if someone called me a 1 guard vs. a 2 guard". That is crazy. The ball and hoop are the same size, either way. You're facing the same defenders too. People aren't going to guard him differently at the 1 vs. the 2.

yeah, he is getting a contact on drives with too few FTs to show but there's nothing we can do about that... at least he's not constantly getting doubled, and if anything he isn't getting routinely pounded like last season. JB is absorbing most of thet mess and he's built to take it better.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

I never said the team wasn't better with him at the two, and Berry at the 1, they are. I just also think it's possible Paige is a better PG than he is a SG. Call me crazy. I'm not sure his injury riddled season last year is ample proof he's not.

 

[coryfly]

I don't think anyone said he is unhappy unless I missed it, which is possible. Some of his recent comments suggest he would rather play at PG. That doesn't mean he is unhappy but simply a preference. I thought this was pretty well known.

 

[notashelbyfan]

If you would have told me before the game that we would shoot nearly 50% from 3 and make 9 of them I would taken it and bet the farm we would be running UVA out of the gym at the pace they are so good at getting opponents to play at!

 

[mikeirbyusa]

You simply can't have that many TOs against them and expect to win

 

[bleeduncblue]

If you would have told me before the game that we would shoot nearly 50% from 3 and make 9 of them I would taken it and bet the farm we would be running UVA out of the gym at the pace they are so good at getting opponents to play at!

Agree. Many of us (myself included) were saying stuff like "whichever team controls the pace will win" and "if the game is in the 70's, the Heels win" ..... UVA tossed both of those thoughts out the window.

 

[gary-7]

Agree. Many of us (myself included) were saying stuff like "whichever team controls the pace will win" and "if the game is in the 70's, the Heels win" ..... UVA tossed both of those thoughts out the window.

Well, my key was controlling the defensive glass. We did not. And what kept us from pacing them was letting them get second chances over and over. We do our job on the glass and we overcome even the FT disparity.

 

[coryfly]

Agree. Many of us (myself included) were saying stuff like "whichever team controls the pace will win" and "if the game is in the 70's, the Heels win" ..... UVA tossed both of those thoughts out the window.

Haha, they did. They are very good though. They are excellent at home and they played outstanding. Still, despite that, make just a couple fewer mistakes or make a couple of FTs or grab a couple of rebounds and the Heels could have won. Pretty good signs to me personally.