Ok, I can see the reasoning there. Although I was expecting more hacking for it to be machete order. Maybe you could call it the insertion method.
Talk nerdy to me: Machete order for LOTR?
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Well....I have a crazier one, but it would take some work and more switching back and forth of discs.Ok, I can see the reasoning there. Although I was expecting more hacking for it to be machete order. Maybe you could call it the insertion method.
I'm gonna ponder it some and get back to y'all this weekend or Monday. I've got a few ideas circulating. I'd also like @heelz2345 to link me to a good fan edit of the 3 Hobbits into one..
The only method that's 100% effective is abstinence.Ok, I can see the reasoning there. Although I was expecting more hacking for it to be machete order. Maybe you could call it the insertion method.
I haven't actually seen them, but there's a version called the Tolkien edit and the Maple Films edit, and both of those have made a bunch of cuts. I found a detailed description of the differences in the Tolkien edit here
Not according to midichlorians...and now we're back to Star Wars and the original Machete order
I liked all of the Harry Potter books, I only saw the first couple movies though. GOT is really good. But - I don't do well with TV shows since you have to wait a week in between, and then months in between seasons. I do better chain watching entire shows (did this with Entourage, LOST, and with what we have so far of GOT). I agree with the rest though.
My Dad used to watch the Star Trek TV shows, those sucked enough for me to never be interested in seeing the movies. I saw the first Star Wars, I think the second too? Not sure. Anyways - I saw half of Episode 1 and I turned it off halfway through and haven't seen a minute of Star Wars since. I'm not sure if I ever saw Fellowship of the Ring. I know I've seen Two Towers, because the Helm's Deep battle was definitely cool - but I never saw whatever the last one is, nor the Hobbit trilogy (I did read The Hobbit though, but wasn't enticed enough to read the LOTR trilogy).
Undisputedly the worst movie in the series. "Machete order" means watching the other 5 movies in the series, but not Episode I because nothing of consequence happens that doesn't get neatly resolved elsewhere.
Watch Star Wars and then Empire Strikes back. If that doesn't pique your interest, then it wasn't meant to be. JMO but Empire is the best movie in the series.
I liked this because I agree Empire is the best but I actually think Attack of the Clones is worse than Phantom Menace. I do have a whole long thing about how Qui Gon Jinn (Liam Neeson) is the worst character in the whole franchise.
LOTR is the best epic novel ever.
I hesitate to use superlatives, but it's a classic for a reason. Very few books of its kind receive the treatment it has. It has stood the test of time, as well.
One other argument for the LOTR machete order.
If you watch the first LOTR movie and then cut to the Hobbit series, you get to meet Saruman when he is still an ally of Gandalf and the elves. That makes his betrayal in Two Towers more shocking.
As for SW, I would almost have to say rouge one is at or near the top. I know it is standalone, but it fits nicely into the original trilogy.
LOTR was spectacular
Hobbit, I had a hard time making it thru
I finished it only due to completing the movies story line. If I knew then what I know now, I would have never watch Hobbit. Talk about bleeding a cash cow
LOTR was spectacular
Hobbit, I had a hard time making it thru
I finished it only due to completing the movies story line. If I knew then what I know now, I would have never watch Hobbit. Talk about bleeding a cash cow
I love the rationale and the further intrigue and "pivot" that would create, but here's a major problem with it:
The betrayal of Saruman is very quick -- both in its speed and in how early it is in the Fellowship movie. I'll have to go back and skim through the 'chapters' of the Blu-Ray TFOTR I have, but IIRC, the Saruman betrayal and capture of Saruman happens before the hobbits even get to Bree, or right around there. It certainly happens before they get to Rivendell because Frodo comes to in Rivendell and Gandalf is sitting there and ominously is like "I was delayed..." when Frodo asks why he didn't meet them in Bree.
So, to complete that Saruman arc, there's really no way to do so in a machete order. Unless you wanted to watch only the very first few scenes of Fellowship (Bilbo's party, Gandalf telling Frodo about the ring, and then returning to verify it is the One Ring, and then the very beginning of Frodo and Sam's trek) and stop it right before Gandalf meets Saruman and watch all 3 Hobbit movies then and there. But that doesn't really make much sense.
So, to complete that Saruman arc, there's really no way to do so in a machete order. Unless you wanted to watch only the very first few scenes of Fellowship (Bilbo's party, Gandalf telling Frodo about the ring, and then returning to verify it is the One Ring, and then the very beginning of Frodo and Sam's trek) and stop it right before Gandalf meets Saruman and watch all 3 Hobbit movies then and there. But that doesn't really make much sense.
This is proving difficult because of the way Peter Jackson & Co. split up the story(ies). They play with the timelines a bit to make it more chronological for movies (i.e. putting the whole Shelob thing in The Return of the King when that's in The Two Towers) and with going back and forth between storylines throughout each movie like Star Wars does.
It would take a lot of work, but it would be interesting to shift the stories around within a movie. So like, starting at the end of Fellowship, go to Two Towers and watch only the Frodo and Sam story arc in Two Towers and Return of the King until the battle before the Black Gate. And then go back to the beginning of Two Towers and watch all the rest of it and TROTK, leading up to the battle before the Black Gate.
That would obviously take a lot of work though.
It would take a lot of work, but it would be interesting to shift the stories around within a movie. So like, starting at the end of Fellowship, go to Two Towers and watch only the Frodo and Sam story arc in Two Towers and Return of the King until the battle before the Black Gate. And then go back to the beginning of Two Towers and watch all the rest of it and TROTK, leading up to the battle before the Black Gate.
That would obviously take a lot of work though.
Crap. I forgot that...
Saruman's betrayal was revealed in Fellowship. Never mind then!
Looks like (when I finally get around to it), that I should just watch LOTR trilogy and skip the hobbit movies.
They're not nearly as bad as people in this thread are making them out to be. You've got LOTR die-hards in this thread opining, and the LOTR trilogy was so masterfully done that the bar was set very, very, very high for the Hobbit movie(s).
Yeah I would say that the LOTR movies are all 10s, Hobbit movies are about 7.5's. Not terrible on their own, but when you compare them to the others, they look really bad. However, had they made one movie, it could have been a 10 also, the material is there
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