The ACC's Bubble Teams
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A few lessons here.
1. Win enough games so you don't have to worry about this (lol).
2. The bubble is usually pretty weak. It gets difficult to get up to 37 at large bids. The bubble is typically made up of a bunch of meh teams unless it's a really chaotic Champ Week where there's a bunch of bid stealers.
1. Win enough games so you don't have to worry about this (lol).
2. The bubble is usually pretty weak. It gets difficult to get up to 37 at large bids. The bubble is typically made up of a bunch of meh teams unless it's a really chaotic Champ Week where there's a bunch of bid stealers.
Can’t believe we are talking about the Heels being a bubble team rather than thinking about the potential run throughout the ncaat. My times have changed.
durham looks like they’re playing to get in, carolina looks fat and happy after peeping at joe lunardi’s brackets…what a fukkin joke.
ian jackson and powell have given nothing this week…what a shame.
ian jackson and powell have given nothing this week…what a shame.
Let's just put this out there. If UNC misses the NCAA Tournament, they have no one to blame but themselves. They had ample opportunities to prove that they belonged without a shadow of a doubt. Now, they've allowed themselves to get dissected amongst the other bubble teams where it can go 50/50.
There's no anti-UNC bias if they don't get in.
There's no anti-UNC bias if they don't get in.
Its still an incredibly flawed system
New Mexico has 7 losses. They have not played ONE TEAM all season that is currently ranked. Look it up if you dont believe me. They didnt even make the MWC Championship and have losses to teams with losing records like Arizona State and San Jose State. They are projected as an at large 9 seed. What are we doing here? Look at New Mexico’s schedule and tell me how many losses UNC has if they play that schedule. Id say maybe 3
Every system is flawed when you’re trying to find teams 64-68 (or 34-37). Because every team at this level has significant flaws.
I mean UNC hasn’t beaten a single team ranked in the top 25 right now either right? And they had like 8 opportunities or something like that.
There’s no perfect way of doing it with these teams. If you argue UNC played Kansas, Michigan State, Florida and Duke down to the wire, I can counter with they also had Notre Dame, Boston College, Ga Tech come down to the final seconds.
There isn’t much separating these teams. In UNC’s case, they have ample opportunities to play better competition compared to most mid majors. Does that mean they should be punished more? Not up to me but I can see it.
Yea seriously, no crying here . This team has had time after time to state of case why they should be in and time after time they failed. It’s on them! No excuses. This is where we are at as a program now. In the long run it’s probably better for them to miss it then to be eliminated the first weekend anyway
What I'm hoping for is that the long standing practice of rewarding those who scheduled tough over non conference cupcakes when similar bubble resumes exist, works as the deciding factor. IU, Xavier, and Texas, hot garbage non conference schedules. UNC 5th toughest.
1-12 in quad 1 is a legit tough number against though. Could go either way.
1-12 in quad 1 is a legit tough number against though. Could go either way.
I thought they needed BSU to lose.
It's pretty wild when it's hard to keep up with who needs to win or lose.
Nah, Boise has the better resume. Colorado State probably does not get in as a non automatic. Boise may, they match up better for that last few spots for consideration. 1 of them are in winning today, both would steal a bid.
that was confusing earlier today listening to the talking heads…boise is already a bubble team, csu isn’t based on what i’m hearing seth davis say.
Boise St has higher NET. Both currently have negative WAB (wins above bubble) values (lower than UNC too). Both also have more Q1 wins/better%, but have more Q2-Q4 losses (BSU even has a Q4 loss).
Saw an article on CBS already writing out UNC. To be quite frank, the resumé isn't something to tout, but compared to other bubble teams, especially their SOS, not much of a comparison
Saw an article on CBS already writing out UNC. To be quite frank, the resumé isn't something to tout, but compared to other bubble teams, especially their SOS, not much of a comparison
so tell me the argument for xavier over carolina…i don’t get that one, unless i’m not valuing something.
I agree. The only thing I see is they don't have any Q3+ losses (but they do have 2 Q2 losses)
I think what bothers me most this year is that most of the season we didn't see Carolina basketball being played. That's what makes me most-ill and pessimistic about tmrw evening.
The committee is really gonna watch Boise lose the freaking MOUNTAIN WEST title game by 30 and think they deserve an at large over us???
CBS is Jerry Palm. He has them out, been out to him without a automatic bid for him, he always has them lower.
I love the thought. Some others might see it as a mere Q1 loss for a multi-Q1 win team to another multi-Q1 win team. But that said, I love your thought there. I actually feel more optimistic for the Heels' chances after reading it. In fact, what has happened to college ball that we even have need to ask it?
I know the ACC is down big time this year, but I still think that these mid-major teams with high (relative) NETs (like BSU for example) wouldn't come close to being in the conversation if they played in the ACC.
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It’s an absolute joke and this stupid quad system was only put in place so that metrics would try to justify these mid major teams being worthy of at large bids. No serious person thinks Xavier or Boise State is beating UNC if they played today
