"The Hidden History of Trump’s First Trip to Moscow"
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this solidifies it, definite collusion in the 2016 campaign. good work Boy! Trump is done, finished, no chance.
Why is Trump so cozy and warm on Russia . . . ?
Why hasn't POTUS implemented the sanctions against Russia that Congress has approved of . . ?
There are more questions than answers when it comes to everything Russia as it relates to 45 and his campaign . .
Russia plays the long game, certainly it is possible that DT was indeed a candidate that could be acquired and played, to think not would be foolish IMHO.
Too many times an eyebrow has been raised as new info has come out regarding his family and his campaign, the drip-drip-drip has been constant.
Manafort
Flynn
DT Jr.
Kushner
Page
Cohen
Campaign adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about speaking with a Russian contact who promised to leak to the Trump campaign thousands of Clinton emails.
Sessions can't recollect shit.
Comey . . fired him because of 'this Russia thing' . . . hmmm. Obstruction of Justice is seeming like a very real possibility here.
Money laundering for the Russians . . ? I'm almost sure this will be exposed by Mueller and his team, along with a few other crooked Trump & Kushner dealings . .
I'll repeat it, there are numerous unanswered questions about Trump & Russia. Way too many.
Why hasn't POTUS implemented the sanctions against Russia that Congress has approved of . . ?
There are more questions than answers when it comes to everything Russia as it relates to 45 and his campaign . .
Russia plays the long game, certainly it is possible that DT was indeed a candidate that could be acquired and played, to think not would be foolish IMHO.
Too many times an eyebrow has been raised as new info has come out regarding his family and his campaign, the drip-drip-drip has been constant.
Manafort
Flynn
DT Jr.
Kushner
Page
Cohen
Campaign adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about speaking with a Russian contact who promised to leak to the Trump campaign thousands of Clinton emails.
Sessions can't recollect shit.
Comey . . fired him because of 'this Russia thing' . . . hmmm. Obstruction of Justice is seeming like a very real possibility here.
Money laundering for the Russians . . ? I'm almost sure this will be exposed by Mueller and his team, along with a few other crooked Trump & Kushner dealings . .
I'll repeat it, there are numerous unanswered questions about Trump & Russia. Way too many.
I'm just glad Trump has made it possible for "conservatives" to feel camaraderie with Russia. That was easier than I ever imagined possible. After 50-60 years of being conditioned to hate Russia, hate Communism, be afraid of them, "Better Dead Than Red", etc., and now... Russia's not so bad!
Frankly, I have nothing against Russians at all. I'd be suspect of their leaders, just like I'm suspect of American politicians and leaders. "As wolves at lambing" is my take... like Rob Roy said!
Frankly, I have nothing against Russians at all. I'd be suspect of their leaders, just like I'm suspect of American politicians and leaders. "As wolves at lambing" is my take... like Rob Roy said!
Point taken, but Vladimir Putin is also one of the most ruthless dictators in the world. He has murdered countless journalists, businessmen, and political opponents. We have never had a president even come close to his level of malevolence. I think we should be slightly more suspicious of Putin than anyone in American government.
I do find your first point extremely amusing though. Can you imagine if even half of this had gone down with Obama instead of Trump?
I have absolutely NO DOUBT that if this had been Obama, the GOP, conservatives, the "Right", and everything that claims to be any of that, would be in constant "Off With His Head"-mode. Not unlike how democrats have done for almost a year now.
Do you think as many people on the "left" or whatever we want to call it would have been in denial the same way conservatives are now about Trump? Personally I'm inclined to think not. If these stories had broken about Obama I would have had no problem disavowing him.
Do I think that Obama supporters would be (or could have been, or could be) in denial? Absolutely. His most devout supporters, sure. It's almost a self-preservation instinct. Betrayal is VERY hard to accept. And, people who put their trust and faith in these people in power would rather bullshit themselves rather than the alternative.
I guess what I'm really asking is would have been as prevalent. Or would the same percentage of a smaller percentage of Obama supporters have denied his wrongdoing in a similar case.
Good point about betrayal. Social psychologists actually found that if a person proves to another person that they're being conned, most people will be more angry with their friend than the person actually conning them.
Yeah, I can see how that would correlate. The mind that is prone to resist change would be more likely to cling to the old, tribal ways and therefore be more hostile to the ideas being challenged.
Remember how JFK was considered being soft on Communism back in the early 60's? What was the attitude of his supporters back then? I don't know, and it was also a totally different time, socially and politically, I guess. The threat of the Soviet Union and Communism was first priority for decades and decades. I don't even believe true COmmunism ever existed in the Soviet Union or China. But, "true" any ism never exists in any society, for that matter. People nowadays claim to hate Socialism and are totally unaware just how much Socialism they 1) rely on, 2) have always relied on and 3) wouldn't want it any other way.
I really couldn't say. I have seen people insist that whatever their preferred person did/does/has done/will do is never as bad as what the other person does. I see people insisting that what Al Franken did is "not as bad" as Roy Moore. Well, I guess that depends on how you measure it. What Franken did was a prime example of a symptom of how our society degrades women.
Malcolm X was a great example. When he realized Elijah Mohammed had conned him, he was devastated. He would have died in EM's place, he would have taken anything for him, even death. He could conceive death, but he could not conceive betrayal. That was a huge turning point for him. Of course, the Nation of Islam murdered him not much later. Or the CIA did, or whoever did it. Malcolm X could have become a great symbol of racial unity, I think, had he lived longer.
I find it ironic that Trump is supposed to be the biggest idiot on the face of the earth, yet he is somehow smart and shrewd enough to pull off the greatest conspiracy in history.
No, if he was shrewd he wouldn't have gotten caught.
Nobody in their right mind thinks Trump orchestrated any of this. He's a puppet.
It is interesting to think about the fact that he has repeatedly appointed the worst possible candidate for any position. Almost like someone who would want the govt to fail.
SOE? Rick Perry, dancing with the stars competitor, who tried to disband the department of energy and had no clue that the DOE was in charge of our nuclear programs.
Secretary of HUD? A surgeon with zero experience in anything related to urban development or housing.
Secretary of State? Rex Tillerson, the CEO of an oil company
Attourney general? Old racist Keebler elf with a long history of opposing civil rights and abusing his power.
Those are exactly the types of appointments I would make if I were a Russian puppet that wanted the US govt to weaken itself.
SOE? Rick Perry, dancing with the stars competitor, who tried to disband the department of energy and had no clue that the DOE was in charge of our nuclear programs.
Secretary of HUD? A surgeon with zero experience in anything related to urban development or housing.
Secretary of State? Rex Tillerson, the CEO of an oil company
Attourney general? Old racist Keebler elf with a long history of opposing civil rights and abusing his power.
Those are exactly the types of appointments I would make if I were a Russian puppet that wanted the US govt to weaken itself.
I know in your world, Trump didn't win the election. But in everyone else's he did. So no, he didn't get caught.
And according to you, he's the world's biggest buffoon who orchestrated the all time greatest long con.
Seems legit.
Don't worry- he will be gone in January 2025.
Show me one post where I even hinted that he didn't win the election. And yes he is a buffoon..
Absolutely nothing.
Ouch.
That's what most of us sensible folks already think though . .
The question a lot of folks are asking here in the DC suburbs is this:
If, Donald Trump is indicted, will they try him as an adult . . ?
Because if he were an idiot, don't you think all of this stuff from 1987 would have caught up with him before the first primary vote?
Which is it- is he smart enough to pull off the world's longest con or is he a complete moron?
So he didn't get caught doing anything wrong.
Because if he had been caught, he wouldn't be Prez.
Trump gave the American people dozens of reasons not to elect him but there is a core section of Americans who wanted blacks, Muslims, gays, Mexicans, etc put in their place and Trump was their man. He was spot on when he said he could kill someone and his supporters wouldn’t care and they have shown that they don’t
Let me fix that statement for you:
"Trump gave the American people dozens of reasons not to elect him but there is a large section of Americans who wanted blacks, Muslims, gays, Mexicans. etc to know that we're not buying into the false claims of inequality and we're not just going to bend over for minorities when they want to complain about something and Trump was finally someone who'd say it."
Don't know that I would call it a "large section" most people are saying it is around 35 to 38 percent.
Let's call it "large enough".
Dang, I didn't even see your poast @Hark_The_Sound_2010 before I made my poast.
