This whole...

[gary-7]

...Coleman / Sexton thing is getting intriguing. Neither have "offers" yet the chatter on both has intensified vis-a-vis Carolina. Our staff has been in regular contact with Matt's dad and he seems ok with where things are, and the UNC talk around Collin has intensified to the point where some have even assumed an offer.

So let's just throw a couple things out there:

First Sexton
He's from my neck o' the woods and honestly all I ever heard of him until recently was that he scored a lot. However over the past several months he has blown up and managed to jump two stars and about a hundred spots in the rankings. Absolutely lit up EYBL and apparently just did it again in Vegas. Word is he's a good student and an elite scorer who started showcasing some PG skills this season (sound familiar?...although from what I saw on video he had more success at that latter aspect than our guy 7th did in his last AAU go-round). Sexton recently listed us in his final group (again, sans offer).

Coleman
Matt has been on our radar seemingly forever. Hails from fertile recruiting grounds for us in VA and reportedly loves UNC and our staff has been in contact seemingly forever. Now I never like hearing that one of our targets decides to play AAU for Boo Williams, but still... Anyway, Matt is pure 100% PG. He 's fast with the ball and excels in transition and would seem to be a natural fit for us. The mystery of the lack of an offer has fueled speculation ranging from the possibility of outside "issues", all the way to being a "silent" commit, to everything in between. And many UNC fans fear losing him to Shaka Smart.

So... just a couple of thoughts for discussion:
On paper, adding a PG to the 17 class is a luxury more than a need. The more I watch Jalek's game the more I see a future Carolina "Lead" PG. We know 7th wants to get reps and work into the position and Platek is thoroughly capable of sliding over for depth there as well. Still, adding a really good PG can never be a bad thing, right?

And lessee... Matt is tight with PJ (but then I believe so is Jalek) --- Collin just teamed up with Wendell Carter in Vegas. Are any of those things factors? Maybe... or maybe not so much,

In a lot of ways Sexton and Jalek are the same player --- elite scorers who have PG skills. Jalek's a combo whose PG pedigree is obvious and he has proven it as well. Sexton is newer to the PG part. And 7th is also of that ilk, albeit with further to go as a PG. Would three players like that be too many? Would Matt would be a more logical choice as a pure Point to bring in with all our Combos? Or is Collin too good to pass on? Or do we stand pat at that position?.....

So there ya go --- any of y'all remember the TV parody sitcom "Soap"? --- maybe these questions and more will be answered on our next episode of "As The Recruiting Turns"...

 

[Kadyn930]

I like both and would take either one.... I think Sexton Woods and Felton would be to much but Sexton is very good can score with anyone! I think getting Coleman would eliminate us getting Dotson in 18 but guess it would be a even trade off.

 

[Sk1310]

...Coleman / Sexton thing is getting intriguing. Neither have "offers" yet the chatter on both has intensified vis-a-vis Carolina. Our staff has been in regular contact with Matt's dad and he seems ok with where things are, and the UNC talk around Collin has intensified to the point where some have even assumed an offer.

So let's just throw a couple things out there:

First Sexton
He's from my neck o' the woods and honestly all I ever heard of him until recently was that he scored a lot. However over the past several months he has blown up and managed to jump two stars and about a hundred spots in the rankings. Absolutely lit up EYBL and apparently just did it again in Vegas. Word is he's a good student and an elite scorer who started showcasing some PG skills this season (sound familiar?...although from what I saw on video he had more success at that latter aspect than our guy 7th did in his last AAU go-round). Sexton recently listed us in his final group (again, sans offer).

Coleman
Matt has been on our radar seemingly forever. Hails from fertile recruiting grounds for us in VA and reportedly loves UNC and our staff has been in contact seemingly forever. Now I never like hearing that one of our targets decides to play AAU for Boo Williams, but still... Anyway, Matt is pure 100% PG. He 's fast with the ball and excels in transition and would seem to be a natural fit for us. The mystery of the lack of an offer has fueled speculation ranging from the possibility of outside "issues", all the way to being a "silent" commit, to everything in between. And many UNC fans fear losing him to Shaka Smart.

So... just a couple of thoughts for discussion:
On paper, adding a PG to the 17 class is a luxury more than a need. The more I watch Jalek's game the more I see a future Carolina "Lead" PG. We know 7th wants to get reps and work into the position and Platek is thoroughly capable of sliding over for depth there as well. Still, adding a really good PG can never be a bad thing, right?

And lessee... Matt is tight with PJ (but then I believe so is Jalek) --- Collin just teamed up with Wendell Carter in Vegas. Are any of those things factors? Maybe... or maybe not so much,

In a lot of ways Sexton and Jalek are the same player --- elite scorers who have PG skills. Jalek's a combo whose PG pedigree is obvious and he has proven it as well. Sexton is newer to the PG part. And 7th is also of that ilk, albeit with further to go as a PG. Would three players like that be too many? Would Matt would be a more logical choice as a pure Point to bring in with all our Combos? Or is Collin too good to pass on? Or do we stand pat at that position?.....

So there ya go --- any of y'all remember the TV parody sitcom "Soap"? --- maybe these questions and more will be answered on our next episode of "As The Recruiting Turns"...

Thanks for the info Gary. Do you think Roy liked what he saw last year with two PG's on the floor (Berry and Paige) and that's why it seems he is targeting a PG for 2017? C

 

[TPFKAPFS]

I believe we are set at PG for a good bit, but I would welcome either of these guys to the Hill!

Thanks for the info

 

[gary-7]

Thanks for the info Gary. Do you think Roy liked what he saw last year with two PG's on the floor (Berry and Paige) and that's why it seems he is targeting a PG for 2017? C

YES,
and that is quite possible.

 

[dadika13]

So this may just be me but Roy seemed to stop prioritizing Matt once Jalek signed. He may feel they are the same player. I know Matt is more of a pure point, but Roy may see Jalek holding that spot down for a few years (like his uncle did). I trust that our staff knows what they are doing with a kid they have watched for 3 years. There is a reason for no offer right now.

 

[DSouthr]

...Coleman / Sexton thing is getting intriguing. Neither have "offers" yet the chatter on both has intensified vis-a-vis Carolina. Our staff has been in regular contact with Matt's dad and he seems ok with where things are, and the UNC talk around Collin has intensified to the point where some have even assumed an offer.

So let's just throw a couple things out there:

First Sexton
He's from my neck o' the woods and honestly all I ever heard of him until recently was that he scored a lot. However over the past several months he has blown up and managed to jump two stars and about a hundred spots in the rankings. Absolutely lit up EYBL and apparently just did it again in Vegas. Word is he's a good student and an elite scorer who started showcasing some PG skills this season (sound familiar?...although from what I saw on video he had more success at that latter aspect than our guy 7th did in his last AAU go-round). Sexton recently listed us in his final group (again, sans offer).

Coleman
Matt has been on our radar seemingly forever. Hails from fertile recruiting grounds for us in VA and reportedly loves UNC and our staff has been in contact seemingly forever. Now I never like hearing that one of our targets decides to play AAU for Boo Williams, but still... Anyway, Matt is pure 100% PG. He 's fast with the ball and excels in transition and would seem to be a natural fit for us. The mystery of the lack of an offer has fueled speculation ranging from the possibility of outside "issues", all the way to being a "silent" commit, to everything in between. And many UNC fans fear losing him to Shaka Smart.

So... just a couple of thoughts for discussion:
On paper, adding a PG to the 17 class is a luxury more than a need. The more I watch Jalek's game the more I see a future Carolina "Lead" PG. We know 7th wants to get reps and work into the position and Platek is thoroughly capable of sliding over for depth there as well. Still, adding a really good PG can never be a bad thing, right?

And lessee... Matt is tight with PJ (but then I believe so is Jalek) --- Collin just teamed up with Wendell Carter in Vegas. Are any of those things factors? Maybe... or maybe not so much,

In a lot of ways Sexton and Jalek are the same player --- elite scorers who have PG skills. Jalek's a combo whose PG pedigree is obvious and he has proven it as well. Sexton is newer to the PG part. And 7th is also of that ilk, albeit with further to go as a PG. Would three players like that be too many? Would Matt would be a more logical choice as a pure Point to bring in with all our Combos? Or is Collin too good to pass on? Or do we stand pat at that position?.....

So there ya go --- any of y'all remember the TV parody sitcom "Soap"? --- maybe these questions and more will be answered on our next episode of "As The Recruiting Turns"...

So it comes down to 4 things:

1) Take Sexton or Spoon who are very similar to both Jalek and 7th or Coleman who is more a ball handler distributor experienced PG and no wing

2) Take a wing like Randolph and either 2 front court players or 1 PG and 1 front court player

3) Pass on further PGs and wings and have 3 ships for front court players

4) Take 2 front court players and hold the 3rd spot for a late change up (de-committ or late in the game transfer) or carry over to 2018.

I prefer option 4 because I do not see a game changer PG of the ilk of Joel/Ty/Ray/Kendal in that group, I do see 3 pgs that can be very productive in college but they are more combos and we already have a lot of combo guards. If Joel leaves early do we not already have a couple of very talented combos? marcus was a combo guard that ran the point for us exclusively until last season.

Wings, I think we are in really good with a couple high level wings in 2018 and really, if leaky works on his jumper he will look a lot like Ingram, he is already 6'7" and growing. Theo is here and as is BRob and Rush to cover us at the wing. Luke may be able to become a throw back type of small FORWARD who plays more as a forward than a wing or we could go small ball with multiple combo guards across 3 positions that can all shoot/slash/ball handle. Think Jalek/Plateck/7th or add kenny & Brob in. Lots of go small ability there for the wing spot. Randolph is serious talented but is he a future lotto pick good guy you just can't pass on and better than the wings we are also looking at in 2018? For me that is no but that is IMO.

I* see our real area of need as bigs, we need at least 2 and i would feel safer with 3 but the 4 star group are setting up visits and that list can start to reduce itself hard any day now. Don't know that we can get 3 solid enough to really fill what we need. I do think we will get a 5star in either PJ or Bamba but we need to snag at least a 4star guy in the very near future.

 

[Ned Cota]

Only things I'd add to that are the possibility of Knox signing (count him as a wing, especially if we nab Watson), and also the possibility of adding another project big like Huffman. Strange to say, but it's a toss up for me whether I'd like a luxury 4/5 star PG, or a 3 star big more. I guess that's just the state of our roster right now.

But you nailed it Dsouthr. Just fleshing out some more details. I'm sure Roy has a few other names up his sleeve too.

 

[DSouthr]

Only things I'd add to that are the possibility of Knox signing (count him as a wing, especially if we nab Watson), and also the possibility of adding another project big like Huffman. Strange to say, but it's a toss up for me whether I'd like a luxury 4/5 star PG, or a 3 star big more. I guess that's just the state of our roster right now.

But you nailed it Dsouthr. Just fleshing out some more details. I'm sure Roy has a few other names up his sleeve too.

I don't care what position anyone wants to call knox, he is a take all day, same with pj. I see Knox more as a 4/3 but he wants to be seen more a 3/4, doesn't matter what position I see him in, he is still a game changer level guy and you take those no matter what tags anyone puts on them.

Watson, Huffman and for now 5 or 6 other 3-4star front court guys, I would love for us to get at least 2 in the bank right now to take the pressure to get big men off our shoulders and then hunt for the 5star.

 

[RoseHeel]

Gary,

I appreciate this write-up. As most know, I would love to see Matt Coleman at UNC, or at least us plays a factor in his recruiting.

I see you said Matt Coleman's dad is "okay" with how our recruitment of him is going. I can't imagine he keeps us in contention forever without an offer. Luckily, we haven't made any offers yet, so perhaps there's still hope beyond me just hoping he gets one.

I see people say a PG in 2017 is a "luxury", but it's a luxury that we have a good chance with. It would def. help us avoid a 2012 situation, and seeing that Washington said he'd love to play with Coleman (and apparently Jalek is tight with Washington too), why not have them all here? I can barely see any losses in this scenario.

Hope to see this play out soon.

 

[gary-7]

Gary,

I appreciate this write-up. As most know, I would love to see Matt Coleman at UNC, or at least us plays a factor in his recruiting.

I see you said Matt Coleman's dad is "okay" with how our recruitment of him is going. I can't imagine he keeps us in contention forever without an offer. Luckily, we haven't made any offers yet, so perhaps there's still hope beyond me just hoping he gets one.

I see people say a PG in 2017 is a "luxury", but it's a luxury that we have a good chance with. It would def. help us avoid a 2012 situation, and seeing that Washington said he'd love to play with Coleman (and apparently Jalek is tight with Washington too), why not have them all here? I can barely see any losses in this scenario.

Hope to see this play out soon.

Can't argue with any of that.

 

[RP12]

Is there any chance at an early commit from Dotson? If so then maybe the thinking is we either have Berry back as a stud senior or we get by with Jalek and Seventh for a year, probably a year where we aren't really setup to go win it all anyway.

 

[Spacegrass]

So it comes down to 4 things:

1) Take Sexton or Spoon who are very similar to both Jalek and 7th or Coleman who is more a ball handler distributor experienced PG and no wing

2) Take a wing like Randolph and either 2 front court players or 1 PG and 1 front court player

3) Pass on further PGs and wings and have 3 ships for front court players

4) Take 2 front court players and hold the 3rd spot for a late change up (de-committ or late in the game transfer) or carry over to 2018.

I prefer option 4 because I do not see a game changer PG of the ilk of Joel/Ty/Ray/Kendal in that group, I do see 3 pgs that can be very productive in college but they are more combos and we already have a lot of combo guards. If Joel leaves early do we not already have a couple of very talented combos? marcus was a combo guard that ran the point for us exclusively until last season.

Wings, I think we are in really good with a couple high level wings in 2018 and really, if leaky works on his jumper he will look a lot like Ingram, he is already 6'7" and growing. Theo is here and as is BRob and Rush to cover us at the wing. Luke may be able to become a throw back type of small FORWARD who plays more as a forward than a wing or we could go small ball with multiple combo guards across 3 positions that can all shoot/slash/ball handle. Think Jalek/Plateck/7th or add kenny & Brob in. Lots of go small ability there for the wing spot. Randolph is serious talented but is he a future lotto pick good guy you just can't pass on and better than the wings we are also looking at in 2018? For me that is no but that is IMO.

I* see our real area of need as bigs, we need at least 2 and i would feel safer with 3 but the 4 star group are setting up visits and that list can start to reduce itself hard any day now. Don't know that we can get 3 solid enough to really fill what we need. I do think we will get a 5star in either PJ or Bamba but we need to snag at least a 4star guy in the very near future.

Yea Heels needs a couple Top 40 overall big guys at the minimum for 2017-2018. I have a hard time seeing Roy not pulling in at least one top 10-15 overall PF/C in 2017.

 

[UNC Blue Hup]

I believe the ENTIRE focus is front court big men from here on out or we'll have transfers..we'll be too back up on the wings and PG..Roy and Steve need to land PJ and Bamba..

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I don't think we need another combo guard who might turn out to be a good PG. So if that's what Sexton is, I'd pass.

I do like the idea of adding a true PG to our roster. That helps a whole lot if Joel leaves early, or if neither of our might-be-good-PGs makes the transition. Coleman fits that bill.

I'm unclear if Weatherspoon is considered a true PG. I like what I've seen of him in clips but those clips focus most on his scoring around the rim, and not much on his passing or ball-handling skills. So maybe someone else can weigh in on this.

Which is to say, if Weatherspoon is a legit PG, I'd like to see us give him and Coleman enough attention to land one of them, if possible.

That is independent of our scholarship situation. I want 3 bigs, 1 PG and 1 SF. But I'm pretty sure we can't afford all of that. Priority must go to at least 2 quality bigs.

 

[TPFKAPFS]

PJ, Bamba AND one of Sexton, Coleman, Dotson, Randolph, or another big.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

This would be a nice catch

Coleman (or Weatherspoon, if he is also a true PG)
Knox (or Vanderbilt)
Washington
another big

That covers all my requirements: 3 bigs, PG and SF. I say 3 bigs because Knox (or Vanderbilt) looks like a 3/4 to me.

Do we have enough scholarships, or do we need to see who leaves?

 

[johnhelvete]

This would be a nice catch

Coleman (or Weatherspoon, if he is also a true PG)
Knox (or Vanderbilt)
Washington
another big

That covers all my requirements: 3 bigs, PG and SF. I say 3 bigs because Knox (or Vanderbilt) looks like a 3/4 to me.

Do we have enough scholarships, or do we need to see who leaves?

Felton, Platek on board.
Ships available for sure-5 (Britt, Meeks, Hicks, White plus one ship left from previous class since we only added three players this year)
To get 4 more players in addition to Felton/Platek, we would need one player to leave early for the NBA.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Felton, Platek on board.
Ships available for sure-5 (Britt, Meeks, Hicks, White plus one ship left from previous class since we only added three players this year)
To get 4 more players in addition to Felton/Platek, we would need one player to leave early for the NBA.

Which is a pretty good bet, but probably means waiting until spring for the final commit.

Alternatively, we could leave that ship for the next class.

 

[gary-7]

I don't think we need another combo guard who might turn out to be a good PG. So if that's what Sexton is, I'd pass.

I do like the idea of adding a true PG to our roster. That helps a whole lot if Joel leaves early, or if neither of our might-be-good-PGs makes the transition. Coleman fits that bill.

I'm unclear if Weatherspoon is considered a true PG. I like what I've seen of him in clips but those clips focus most on his scoring around the rim, and not much on his passing or ball-handling skills. So maybe someone else can weigh in on this.

Which is to say, if Weatherspoon is a legit PG, I'd like to see us give him and Coleman enough attention to land one of them, if possible.

That is independent of our scholarship situation. I want 3 bigs, 1 PG and 1 SF. But I'm pretty sure we can't afford all of that. Priority must go to at least 2 quality bigs.

I left out Weatherspoon because IMO he is the least pure PG-ish of the bunch... plus there seems to be less chatter in our direction there.

 

[HeelFan58]

PJ, Bamba AND one of Sexton, Coleman, Dotson, Randolph, or another big.

Dotson is 2018.

 

[carolinablue34]

Seems to me like we're looking pretty good with guards. I hope Randolph will commit next, I like his game. I wonder if we can convince PJ to come here if Matt does go to Texas, seeing as he's good friends with Jalek.

If we do get PJ I'd be content with the SF situation. But we do need at least 2 solid bigs for 17. Watson might be one, but we need someone much higher ranked.

 

[TPFKAPFS]

Oops substitute Weatherspoon, lol

Makes for a nice 5 man class!

BTW: It should be first come, first served among : Sexton, Spoon, Randolph, Coleman, ect.

 

[gary-7]

Oops substitute Weatherspoon, lol

Makes for a nice 5 man class!

BTW: It should be first come, first served among : Sexton, Spoon, Randolph, Coleman, ect.

Consider though that Randolph is in a different category.here. With Jackson VERY likely leaving we can use a true Wing who can play the 2 or 3 and also fill it up.

 

[DSouthr]

I don't think we need another combo guard who might turn out to be a good PG. So if that's what Sexton is, I'd pass.

I do like the idea of adding a true PG to our roster. That helps a whole lot if Joel leaves early, or if neither of our might-be-good-PGs makes the transition. Coleman fits that bill.

I'm unclear if Weatherspoon is considered a true PG. I like what I've seen of him in clips but those clips focus most on his scoring around the rim, and not much on his passing or ball-handling skills. So maybe someone else can weigh in on this.

Which is to say, if Weatherspoon is a legit PG, I'd like to see us give him and Coleman enough attention to land one of them, if possible.

That is independent of our scholarship situation. I want 3 bigs, 1 PG and 1 SF. But I'm pretty sure we can't afford all of that. Priority must go to at least 2 quality bigs.

"I don't think we need another combo guard who might turn out to be a good PG. So if that's what Sexton is, I'd pass."

^ That IMO is spoon as well...But for argument sake lets say I am wrong. It really leaves only one question, are any of these 3 guards GAME CHANGERS? Are any of the 3 Marcus Paige level guards if they are in fact combos, are any of the 3 on a par with Berry/Ty/Kendal/Ray? The way I see it if they are great, take the one that fits that level but I don't see any of the 3 at that level. That being what I see I have to put them in the category of love to have but can not afford. We already have Jalek and 7th, Platek may fit to an extent as well, combos that can handle the point similar to Marcus. And we still do not know as fact that Joel will leave after next season.

If you knew right now that Joel would be back for his senior season, how badly would you really want one of these 3 Pgs? I think like me, you would want one of them but feel the price for one of them is just to much to pay when our need is so glaring at the front court positions. It isn't a matter of me wanting one of these Pgs, it to me is about the cost of a scholly for an area that may be able to be filled just as well from the 2018 class when we know we will not have Joel.

IMO our offers from this point on have to go to front court guys, I am not betting we get Bamba or PJ, I think we have good shots at both but but I felt we had a better shot at Tilman and Robinson than either Bamba or PJ. There are literally 6-8 big men I would LOVE to see us get offers out to yesterday and I would take 3 of those big fellas in a minute to fill our glaring area of need. I would much rater we did that than pray for a 5 star or take additional guards when we already have a LOT of guards.

 

[TPFKAPFS]

I believe that we have the wing and pg wrapped up now on our current roster. That's why I think bigs are the real need and any 1-3 is a luxury. I really hope we get Randolph out of that group because I think he is the one with the exceptional skill set. His size, athleticism, and shooting are potentially game changers and I believe the others are similar to 2018 peeps.

My wish list class would be:

Platek, Felton, PJ, Bamba, and Randolph.

Go Tar Heels!

 

[DSouthr]

My wish list is Bamba, McCoy, PJ or Knox, Jalek, Patek

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I left out Weatherspoon because IMO he is the least pure PG-ish of the bunch... plus there seems to be less chatter in our direction there.

Thanks.

In that case, I'd like to see us work harder to get Coleman.

If it turns out that 7th or Jalek is a great PG, then he'll be redundant. Except that having a 2nd PG isn't really redundant in Roy's system.

Seems to me the only way having Coleman might not be a good choice is if 2 things are true: 1) that 7th or Jalek turn into an excellent PG, and 2) that somehow keeps us from landing an even better PG in 2018.

If we load up in the 2017 class, how many scholarships does that leave us for 2018? Two? Maybe 3? With 1 already given to Leaky.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

"I don't think we need another combo guard who might turn out to be a good PG. So if that's what Sexton is, I'd pass."

^ That IMO is spoon as well...But for argument sake lets say I am wrong. It really leaves only one question, are any of these 3 guards GAME CHANGERS? Are any of the 3 Marcus Paige level guards if they are in fact combos, are any of the 3 on a par with Berry/Ty/Kendal/Ray? The way I see it if they are great, take the one that fits that level but I don't see any of the 3 at that level. That being what I see I have to put them in the category of love to have but can not afford. We already have Jalek and 7th, Platek may fit to an extent as well, combos that can handle the point similar to Marcus. And we still do not know as fact that Joel will leave after next season.

If you knew right now that Joel would be back for his senior season, how badly would you really want one of these 3 Pgs? I think like me, you would want one of them but feel the price for one of them is just to much to pay when our need is so glaring at the front court positions. It isn't a matter of me wanting one of these Pgs, it to me is about the cost of a scholly for an area that may be able to be filled just as well from the 2018 class when we know we will not have Joel.

IMO our offers from this point on have to go to front court guys, I am not betting we get Bamba or PJ, I think we have good shots at both but but I felt we had a better shot at Tilman and Robinson than either Bamba or PJ. There are literally 6-8 big men I would LOVE to see us get offers out to yesterday and I would take 3 of those big fellas in a minute to fill our glaring area of need. I would much rater we did that than pray for a 5 star or take additional guards when we already have a LOT of guards.

We agree that the highest priority is bigs.

And, no, I wouldn't take Coleman (who seems to be the true PG of the bunch) if that somehow kept us from landing a top PF or C. But if we sign 2 good bigs, then Coleman might be my next choice.

I worry a little that we are trending strongly for Randolph. Not that I object to Randolph, you understand. But he's another SG who may be able to play SF. Like BRob. So I'm inclined to put Coleman ahead of Randolph, behind at least 2 bigs. And yes, I'd like 3 bigs. But if we get 2 good ones, we'll be OK and can look harder at other needs.

Some have suggested that Coleman and PJ might want to play together. I'd be happy to sign that pair.

 

[DSouthr]

We agree that the highest priority is bigs.

And, no, I wouldn't take Coleman (who seems to be the true PG of the bunch) if that somehow kept us from landing a top PF or C. But if we sign 2 good bigs, then Coleman might be my next choice.

I worry a little that we are trending strongly for Randolph. Not that I object to Randolph, you understand. But he's another SG who may be able to play SF. Like BRob. So I'm inclined to put Coleman ahead of Randolph, behind at least 2 bigs. And yes, I'd like 3 bigs. But if we get 2 good ones, we'll be OK and can look harder at other needs.

Some have suggested that Coleman and PJ might want to play together. I'd be happy to sign that pair.

"I worry a little that we are trending strongly for Randolph. Not that I object to Randolph, you understand. But he's another SG who may be able to play SF."

^ EXACTLY MY POSITION ! When I factor in Leaky Black who is 6'7" now and committed to us from the 2018 class it is hard for me to accept another wing. It is a want much more than a need, PG IMO is as well at very least until 2018 class.

Also keep in mind, while I love what PJ could bring us, he is a 6'7" power forward, what we can agree is a bit undersized for a 4, especially one not exactly known for being a knock down jump shooter. My concern is Tony for now we don't know what we have, he may be great and he could have more of a Brice/Hicks type of growth curve. Until we get commits from 2017 big men, all we have is Tony and Luke as bigs on our roster after next season. Now maybe Luke blows up and plays like a starter, did you see indications of that last season? Best i can tell so far he is a great glue guy, works hard, but is a below the rim power forward that can step out and shoot some. Tony is not a high flier above the rim guy and after that we have to look to wings to cover the front court? 2 guys that are not exceptional leapers and wings means we have to get more inside the paint size and that 1 from 2017 is not enough and how comfortable would you be with just one power forward from 2017 as our only big man from this class and he be only 6'7" and we be lucky to get even him?

 

[TPFKAPFS]

I don't think there is the slightest chance in the world that Roy intends to only get 1 big in this class! He is watching a good many of them and seems to feel pretty good about a few. I think he and his staff will pull at least 2, but possibly 3 bigs in this class. I think we might add Randolph as well to the mix and I'm ecstatic with that if it happens! I also bet if the right names comes up in that list, we would find a 6th scholly some how, lol.

 

[RoseHeel]

The only guy I can see us getting right now is Nate Watson, and we still haven't made an offer. I'm not too concerned with PJ's size; plus I heard he can play the 3 and 4, and that versatility would be great for us. But it's still far from a done deal of us landing him.

I just can't see us landing Bamba IMO, but it looks like we're turning up the heat on Randolph, and it could come down to us and Louisville.

Felton, Platek, Randolph, Watson, and 1 more big (Washington, McCoy, someone else) would be HUGE IMHO.

 

[HeelFan58]

The only guy I can see us getting right now is Nate Watson, and we still haven't made an offer. I'm not too concerned with PJ's size; plus I heard he can play the 3 and 4, and that versatility would be great for us. But it's still far from a done deal of us landing him.

I just can't see us landing Bamba IMO, but it looks like we're turning up the heat on Randolph, and it could come down to us and Louisville.

Felton, Platek, Randolph, Watson, and 1 more big (Washington, McCoy, someone else) would be HUGE IMHO.

Louisville Insider Mike Hughes picked Randolph for UNC in the CB. Always a good sign when the competition's gurus pick for UNC.

 

[Tom79]

As someone pointed out somewhere, Nate visits late August, I could almost expect an announcement soon to follow. At 6'8" not sure about his being a true center but then again how does Washington fit in, as a SF, PF another wing? Don't get me wrong, I'd take those guys all day, I guess thinking of a big still brings Randolph/Bamba back in and then as one of our posters pointed out, we could also pick up a couple of "lesser known" bigs down the ratings...solid 4 year types. I do think our choice of bigs is not as good next class.

 

[gary-7]

As someone pointed out somewhere, Nate visits late August, I could almost expect an announcement soon to follow. At 6'8" not sure about his being a true center but then again how does Washington fit in, as a SF, PF another wing? Don't get me wrong, I'd take those guys all day, I guess thinking of a big still brings Randolph/Bamba back in and then as one of our posters pointed out, we could also pick up a couple of "lesser known" bigs down the ratings...solid 4 year types. I do think our choice of bigs is not as good next class.

Washington is not a college Wing.

 

[Archer2]

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Agreed, Gary. PJ can play PF in college with no problem, even at 6-7.

 

[dadika13]

Washington is not a college Wing.

Agree. Problem is I'm sure certain coaches are promising him a wing spot, wouldn't put that by Sean Miller or Cal.

 

[gary-7]

Agree. Problem is I'm sure certain coaches are promising him a wing spot, wouldn't put that by Sean Miller or Cal.

Hell, I'm sure Roy told him he might play some 3 along the way. Remember he promised Henson he'd get a look at the 3 ---- didn't go well but.....
Honestly though I don't think that matters that much to him. There's a place for a 4 in our system who can both face and post. We'll see it from Luke this season.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

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Agreed, Gary. PJ can play PF in college with no problem, even at 6-7.

I really like PJ and Knox because they can play the "other" position. With PJ we get a 4/3 who likes working outside in and, from the clips, is good at it. With Knox we get a 3/4 with the size and power to handle being on the front line if we need him to fill in.

If we had to play both PJ and Knox on the front line at the same time for some stretches, we might be a bit short. But their quality of play would make up for it.

 

[dadika13]

There's a place for a 4 in our system who can both face and post. We'll see it from Luke this season.

God help us if we see it often. He has glorified walk-on talent level.