Top Recent Commits for ACC Teams

[What Would Jesus Do?]

When you look up the commits for a team on 247, just below that year's players you'll see a scrolling line of what they call "All-Time Commits."

First, these are not really All-Time Commits, since as far as I can tell they only looked back to 2003. Which is why I named this thread "Top Recent Commits."

They base the lists on the numerical score of the player, rather than the rank. If you think the numerical ratings are a better measure - which they probably are - then that makes sense. But it isn't my intent to quibble about that.

The question I asked myself is which teams had the most 5-stars, 4-stars and 3-stars among their top 25 commits from 2003 thru 2018 (so not including Cole and Armando), according to 247's scoring.

Here's the list. I put them in order of total 5-star PLUS 4-star players, and broke ties by looking at the number of 5-star players. That just seemed to work a little better than going only by the number of 5-stars.

First number is the number of 5-stars, then 4-stars, then 3-stars

Duke-------25 0 0
UNC--------19 6 0
Syracuse---12 13 0
Louisville--8 17 0
NC State----7 18 0
FSU---------6 19 0
Ga Tech-----5 19 1
Wake--------3 20 2
UVa---------1 22 2
Pitt--------2 19 4
Miami-------4 14 7
Notre Dame--0 18 7
Va Tech-----1 16 9
Clemson-----1 9 15
Boston Col--0 5 20

 

[TPFKAPFS]

GT and Miami seem to have more 5* than I expected. Nothing else seems surprising to me. I like how close we are to puke since the narrative is Roy gets dusted on the recruiting trail by slimy and ratty! Average stars are 4.76 UNC and 5.0 puke if I did the math correctly, lol!

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

GT and Miami seem to have more 5* than I expected. Nothing else seems surprising to me. I like how close we are to puke since the narrative is Roy gets dusted on the recruiting trail by slimy and ratty! Average stars are 4.76 UNC and 5.0 puke if I did the math correctly, lol!

Not hard to see why BC perennially sucks. A little surprising that Clemson does not perennially suck. They may not be great, but better than you might expect from this perspective.

 

[TPFKAPFS]

Another way to slice up 15 years of data is:

Ratty only got 6 more 5* than Roy. AND
Roy got 6 4* during that same period.



Not so large a gap after all, + who had more success? hmmmmm?

 

[gauchoheel]

Another way to slice up 15 years of data is:

Ratty only got 6 more 5* than Roy. AND
Roy got 6 4* during that same period.



Not so large a gap after all, + who had more success? hmmmmm?

You’re not reading it right. It only shows the top 25 recruits by rating. So dook has more than 25 five star players, and also has gotten some four stars that aren’t shown here. UNC also has had more than 6 four star guys. Not sure if we’ve had more than dook though, but probably given their 5 star superiority.

 

[calvin1234]

Interesting information.

For some reason it didn’t seem right that there is so little gap between duke and unc.

So I looked at 24/7 recruit rankings. The number of 5 stars signed in the past as of today:

Duke 37
Unc. 23
Ky. 51
Az. 21
Va. 1
Vil. 10

A couple of take aways-

Tony Bennett is a great coach.
Roy Williams does not get enough credit for coaching and recruiting.
Ky underachieves. And duke too.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Interesting information.

For some reason it didn’t seem right that there is so little gap between duke and unc.

So I looked at 24/7 recruit rankings. The number of 5 stars signed in the past as of today:

Duke 37
Unc. 23
Ky. 51
Az. 21
Va. 1
Vil. 10

A couple of take aways-

Tony Bennett is a great coach.
Roy Williams does not get enough credit for coaching and recruiting.
Ky underachieves. And duke too.

Thanks. Good info. I was thinking of doing that and you saved me the effort.

 

[TPFKAPFS]

Thanks for correcting my misunderstanding, but my underlying point just got stronger!

ratty and slimy have underachieved and are vastly overrated!

 

[gauchoheel]

Thanks for correcting my misunderstanding, but my underlying point just got stronger!

ratty and slimy have underachieved and are vastly overrated!

Well, there are some possible alternative explanations. One might consider that there are diminishing returns to recruiting, and that beyond a certain point it doesn't matter that much. I think the exception to that is if you get an exponentially better recruit, like a guy ranked in the top couple spots (Anthony Davis type). Otherwise, I'm not sure there's much difference between the 20th ranked recruit and 40th ranked recruit. Scheme, fit amongst players on a roster, and development mean more.

I know people like to point to the titles, but that's based on one loss and you're out tournaments. Not really a good comparison point. And even then, they have 3 of the last 9. Thats way way over performing for a sport with 75 major conference teams. And on a per possession basis dook and UK are ranked #1 and #2 since 1997 (we're #4 after Kansas). So yeah...