Yup...sure sounds like a vindictive monster to me.
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Trump wants to help Clinton "heal"
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I don't think he is as bad as he presented himself to be. I even told others that it was like some new Donald had emerged. Look at older interviews and you see a different demeanor.
SOME of his supporters on the other hand ARE complete homophobes, racist, sexist assholes and those are they ones I'm sorry to see unleashed now.
Ask one of his supporters if they feel the same regarding Hillary and wanting her to heal. You'll get a few different answers.
SOME of his supporters on the other hand ARE complete homophobes, racist, sexist assholes and those are they ones I'm sorry to see unleashed now.
Ask one of his supporters if they feel the same regarding Hillary and wanting her to heal. You'll get a few different answers.
Agree there. I have no sympathy whatsoever for Hillary. She has done a lot of "bad" and a lot of families continue to suffer b/c of the Clintons, but going back now to prove a point would be counterproductive. I think he is showing some Presidential elements here. Now he just needs to get off Twitter.
Agree. I really think he will upset a few of his supporters soon enough when he doesn't follow through with putting her in jail or building that wall. You'll see the people who just voted for him out of hatred for others and not out of concern for real change and doing things FOR America.
Yep, you get a completely different reaction from me because I know of a good number of people who are IN JAIL RIGHT NOW for doing a minute fraction of what $RC did with classified information. For example, there is a young man, 1st Class Petty Officer in the Navy with a wife and child, that is serving a 1 year jail term for taking six photographs of the inside of a nuclear powered submarine. The photos were of spaces that are classified CONFIDENTIAL. He did not transmit the photos to anyone else, there is no charge that he was a spy. When he learned that others knew about his photos that were taken years before it was not authorized to have a camera phone in such spaces, he decided to delete them. Does this sound familiar??? Yet, he is in jail for mishandling classified information, information classified at the lowest levels. What $RC did was THOUSANDS OF TIMES WORSE than what this young man did!!!
Anywhooo, I think it was correct for TRUMP to say he was not going to pursue charges against $RC for one reason only - HE AIN'T THE ONE WHO DOES THAT! It is NOT his swim lane. The Attorney General does that. The Attorney General does that INDEPENDENTLY of the White House if the evidence leads there... And, OBTW, Trump's pronouncement is meaningless because the Congress can refer charges to the DOJ for action, which I am fully certain they will...
IMO, $RC should be indicted, prosecuted, and punished to the fullest extent the law requires just for the mishandling of classified information alone. That would not even include the attempt to avoid FOIA request by keeping a secret home-brew server, the influence peddling and pay to play schemes of the Clinton Foundation, etc.
Nuk'em,
I agree with you. She SHOULD be fully investigated for what she's done.
That said, we're at a time in our country where we need unity and as unjust as it is, they have been led to believe Trump is a complete monster of a person who will derail any progress this country has made. I personally believe the opposite...when all said and done, I actually think he could wind up being one of the best Presidents we've ever had. But Trump has been handed a country now that 50% of it's inhabitants literally hate him. He has to take certain steps to quell that...I saw yesterday where he's close to appointing a strong Bernie Sanders supporter to his cabinet as well. Some right-wingers are going to hate that, but I actually find some positivity in it b/c for once, we might have a POTUS who will try to unify, not just talk about it.
I agree with you. She SHOULD be fully investigated for what she's done.
That said, we're at a time in our country where we need unity and as unjust as it is, they have been led to believe Trump is a complete monster of a person who will derail any progress this country has made. I personally believe the opposite...when all said and done, I actually think he could wind up being one of the best Presidents we've ever had. But Trump has been handed a country now that 50% of it's inhabitants literally hate him. He has to take certain steps to quell that...I saw yesterday where he's close to appointing a strong Bernie Sanders supporter to his cabinet as well. Some right-wingers are going to hate that, but I actually find some positivity in it b/c for once, we might have a POTUS who will try to unify, not just talk about it.
I agree she SHOULD be but for whatever reasons (Clinton power or something else) it will not happen.
He's gonna build the wall, don't you worry. It will create jobs AND secure the border. Win-win.
I'm interested to see how the whole wall thing pans out. It's funny listening to Trump critics. They say "He wants to build a wall - what a horrible idea!" then they say "He won't do anything he said he'll do - he's not going to build the wall!". I wish they'd just pick a side, whether they're for or against him building the wall, and stick with it.
I'm still skeptical that the wall will ever get built though. I'm hoping he warms up to the sniper idea - cheaper and more effective.
I've been wondering about Trump's slogan "Make America Great Again". I, for one, think this is a great country but I would like to know at what period in our history did the Trump supporters consider America great and at what period in history did it stop being great?
When my total medical cost...as a healthy, young, in-shape family...exceeded 5-figures.
We have actually started seeing employees decline health coverage because it is CHEAPER to accept the ACA penalty for non-coverage and pay all visits / prescriptions out of pocket. If that ain't a f*cked up system, I don't know what is.
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backing up??? If you mean you think I have changed my stance on Trump, maybe on HIM personally I have, because I see the Trump I saw before he ran for office (however, I did not see how sexist he was back then, things we have now been shown were going on). I see him backing down on the things I thought he would. While I did not vote for him either, I did say several times I wanted him to actually win just to prove a point, that he would NOT do all those things he says he will do... time will tell if I am correct or not.
I think he will fight ISIS but I do not think he will round up all the illegals or build that wall. I am holding out hope for you guys that think he will though.
America quit being great when it put its citizens at risk in an effort to not offend certain groups.
Not sure about the Trump people, but according to Bill Clinton it was at least before 1991.
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#moveon
I was hoping to get someone the lines of "We were
Dates, we need dates...
I think explaining it in terms of things that have happened that have guided America away from being great is more productive/informative than a date. Saying things like "America quit being great when it put its citizens at risk in an effort to not offend certain groups." shows what has happened that has made people upset with the direction of the country.
I don't think anyone out there is going to say - well America was F'ing awesome on April 4th of such and such a year... but then on April 5th and onward it has absolutely sucked.
Thanks for the reply would you explain what you mean about the above, I really want to understand? I didn't support Trump but now that he has been elected I support him 100% and I hope I can continue to support him. We'll just have to wait and see.
In the last couple of years in the Hampton Roads area alone, roughly six navy guys, also a few army as well. Just in my area. That doesn't include many, many individuals who have been busted at COs mast, reduced in rank, their careers ruined, and their futures placed in jeopardy for their own actions. It is not taken lightly at all in my circles. I understand the vast majority of Americans probably don't get it, but the proper handling of classified information is critical to our national security and that impact everyone. And, it should concern everyone that some individuals are treated differently under the law than those with money, power, position and influence...
I was quoting GSD there, so I don't want to put words into his mouth as to what he meant by it.
However I do agree with the premise. Take the Syrian refugee issue as an example. The current administration wants so badly to show the world (and the country) how tolerant we are of all religions, so they want to take in refugees without properly vetting them (thus endangering citizens).
The issue is somewhat on both sides though. I think if the refugees were from Australia - the administration wouldn't be so gung ho about bringing them in - because taking in white English speaking people wouldn't be seen as such a "progressive" step. On the flip side - I don't think certain people in the USA would be as opposed to bringing them in unvetted if they were Australians as opposed to Middle Eastern. Which you could say is based on prejudices of their own, or the recognition of which group is statistically more likely to commit terrorist acts, but either way I don't think there would be the push back that there is now.
You bring up a good point. Down through the years we have adjusted allowing refugees into our country from certain COUNTRIES but I have a problem targeting certain RELIGIONS. We just don't do that here.
Agreed on the not targeting certain religions aspect. I guess in this situation it's somewhat of a blurred line since people from the countries in that particular area of the world are predominantly a specific religion - it becomes tough to untangle the two.
The last time I can remember when we stopped immigration based on religion was the jews trying to flee Europe during WW2 and we know how that turned out.
Yes, I think that situation (preventing Jews from immigrating) is different from this situation though. There were no facts/stats that would have shown Jews to be dangerous to the American people. Whereas there are stats that show which groups of people are more likely to be terrorists in today's world. Now, does being in that certain group automatically deem someone a terrorist? Certainly not. But should it open them up to closer examination (within reason)? I'm not sure why that would be a bad thing if the stats/facts bear that out.
I would say the same thing about any group of people, based on religion, or something else. If Catholics were statistically proven to abuse their children more than all other people, I'd have Child Services keep a closer eye on them. If Jews were statistically proven to cheat on their taxes more than all other people, I'd have the IRS keep a closer eye on them. If people of Irish descent were more likely than others to develop alcoholism, I'd have doctors keep a closer watch on their Irish patients for alcoholism. Denying statistics because we don't like what they tell us is a dangerous thing.
Well then we need to keep an eye on the white uber conservative old farts because they're frightening now.
Well then we need to keep an eye on the white uber conservative old farts because they're frightening now.
If "frightening" is somehow able to be statistically proven, and isn't just an opinion, then sure - let's keep an eye on them too.
Going back to the WW2 example. We had limits on how many Germans could come into the country, we had limits on how many Poles could come in, we had limits on how many Hungarians could come in, etc. but we done away with that and kept a certain religion out regardless of what country they were from and as you know that was a mistake.
I was being somewhat facetious but there's nothing really to fear since that's a breed that is dying out. Things are evolving slowly as they should.
Personally, I believe we need to cease immigration to the USA indefinitely. We have every possible race, creed, and religion represented here already. We simply can't afford to allow immigrants, most of them poor and unable to support themselves and their families, to come here and go on the government dole. This would mean no immigrants from any country, regardless of race, religion, or financial status.
We can't support the people we have right now so keeping our borders open to anybody who wants to come here is ludicrous.
We can't support the people we have right now so keeping our borders open to anybody who wants to come here is ludicrous.
I'm not sure that many still want to come here now anyway. From the comments I have read online most people in other countries are laughing at us and think we are a bunch of idiots for allowing Trump to win. I'm not saying we are, I am simply talking about comments from actual people on Facebook discussing our country.
By a very large margin. Damn Chick, you need to stop gathering your political insights from FB.
I just observe things there because there is a diverse bunch of people there. I'm not about to get opinions from one particular group that is biased. That would be stupid. I read on several different pages there that are across the entire spectrum.
For you Chick. 2015 numbers.
"The USA has the highest total number of immigrants, being home to 19 per cent of the world's immigrants.
This is followed by Germany and Russia, with a combined share of 9.7 per cent of the world's immigrants."
Facebook is the antithesis of enlightenment. Anything you hear there should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
"The USA has the highest total number of immigrants, being home to 19 per cent of the world's immigrants.
This is followed by Germany and Russia, with a combined share of 9.7 per cent of the world's immigrants."
Facebook is the antithesis of enlightenment. Anything you hear there should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
America is a great country. Lots of people wanna come here... all the time. It was great in October and it's great now. There is lots of opportunity here.
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