UNC Football: Kelly Bryant sets visit to Tar Heels...
- Thread starter reggaeheel
- Start date
Love to have his talent but he’d be stupid to join our program with as much uncertainty we have right now with lame duck head coach.
He will land at another power 5 that has a void at QB but headed in the right direction.
He will land at another power 5 that has a void at QB but headed in the right direction.
This would be bad long term I think. It hurts the development of our younger guys and probably results in at least one transfer.
Larry Fedora is Larry Fedora. He is stupid enough to think that if only he gets a magical QB, everything will fall into place.
Well, here is the reality: Bryant at UNC will not look nearly as impressive as most of you think he was at Clemson. The reasons ought to be obvious: at UNC, he will not have nearly as good an OL, nor will he have nearly as good playcalling, nor will he have a D even remotely close.
That last could be the most important, the one that guarantees the other two I noted would be highlighted. Whenever a QB is naturally gifted in physical terms and inclined to use individual skills, and his D is weak, his gambling goes up - he will take bigger risks and take them more often. When you put that with a less than stellar OL and average or poor playcalling, you guarantee turnovers and near turnovers and wild plays that backfire.
And then we have the future: if you are Cade Fortin or Jace Ruder, seeing our QB play this year, would you be happy to keep sitting all year and then watching Fedora bring in a grad transfer QB for next year?
Well, here is the reality: Bryant at UNC will not look nearly as impressive as most of you think he was at Clemson. The reasons ought to be obvious: at UNC, he will not have nearly as good an OL, nor will he have nearly as good playcalling, nor will he have a D even remotely close.
That last could be the most important, the one that guarantees the other two I noted would be highlighted. Whenever a QB is naturally gifted in physical terms and inclined to use individual skills, and his D is weak, his gambling goes up - he will take bigger risks and take them more often. When you put that with a less than stellar OL and average or poor playcalling, you guarantee turnovers and near turnovers and wild plays that backfire.
And then we have the future: if you are Cade Fortin or Jace Ruder, seeing our QB play this year, would you be happy to keep sitting all year and then watching Fedora bring in a grad transfer QB for next year?
All moves are not good. Some moves are worse than even the bad we have now. Some moves are fine, even excellent, for a short term, but over time will prove to have been terrible.
The only move that we should be making now, as in this week if possible and certainly before Thanksgiving, is to fire Fedora.
For the poster above that mention the "magical quarterback", Bryant ain't it. He is a good QB, but not much better than many other starting QBs on good teams. But he was surrounded by so much superior talent on a great team, agains a mostly weak schedule, that he won a lot of games. Doesn't throw a very good deep ball. Most of his yardage came on shorter passes where the great athletes made plays after the catch.
That is right up Fedora's alley. Fedora's ideal of a QB has nothing to do with strong arm or passing accuracy and touch, and even less to do with ability to read pass Ds and make adjustments. It is a QB who is a preferably large 'athlete' who can run and wants to run often, matched with a cadre of very talented WRs and TEs who can make certain that an average or slightly above average passing QB amasses stats that make him seem very good.
Bryant is exactly the type player that Fedora believes will vindicate him. He probably is telling Bubba and all boosters he can latch on to that if only he had Bryant this year, we'd be undefeated and in line for the playoffs.
And that sales pitch may work.
Wrong, Fed's ideal QB is a guy like Mitch who is a brilliant passer that can make all the throws but can also run well enough to keep the back of the D honest. And this is EVERY coach's ideal QB aside from Paul Johnson. Fed didn't want Mitch to run much, but he didn't need him too. Despite a banged up interior OL (Caleb Peterson out second half, Hatton struggling to replace Feranto), an ill Elijah Hood, that O still put up a bunch of points.
Also, what you describe doesn't match Elliot or Fortin at all. Maybe it comes closer to Chazz. The play calls with Fortin were pretty nice. His qb rating bumps if Dazz doesn't drop that perfect ball. All that from a true frosh in his first real action. And at present Ruder is probably the best athlete in the QB room, but seems like the last to play.
So I gotta call BS on your premise.
How many good offensive teams have statues as QBs? Tua isn't replacing the other Bama kid because Tua can throw, rather Tua can do BOTH, it isn't "either - or".
Jake Fromm took a pretty bad sack that ended their gm vs LSU because he isn't mobile enough. A more mobile QB has two options when a play: breaks down, scramble or throw it away. Fromm's only option is to throw it away. Sometimes amazing things can happen during the scramble, but Fromm isn't that type of player, and this sack happens because of that:
A mobile QB picks up those 6 yards with his legs, like VT's Willis did against us. Don't be surprised when Justin Fields overtakes Fromm.
Similar threads
