UNC responds to the NCAA
- Thread starter keysersosay#1
- Start date
The following is from The Robesonian in Lumberton. Pay special attention to the paragraph I highlighted in bold, but the entire piece is simply on point. This has all been a witch hunt by Dan Kane and the N&O and fed by the orgasmic delusions of rival fans and the ineptitude of media talking heads too lazy to do their own due diligence.
"UNC finally goes on defense against NCAA
The University of North Carolina this week signaled to the NCAA that six years of taking a knee is enough, and sent a warning shot over Indianapolis that it was lawyered up and prepared to defend itself against allegations concerning its athletics programs that it says are inaccurate, inflated and wayward.
Athletics Director Bubba Cunningham, in speaking to the media about the university’s response to the NCAA’s Notice of Allegations, said UNC had failed to meet its own standards by allowing “classes that didn’t meet our rigor,” but said that was an academic issue, and none of the NCAA’s business.
The university also pointed out that massive reforms have been put in place, and apologies extended.
Cunningham hinted that the university wasn’t anxious to self-impose sanctions, apparently believing that the firing of an entire football staff, the forced departures of an athletics director and chancellor, banning itself from two post-season bowl games in football, and forfeiting athletic scholarships, was sufficient penance.
What Cunningham didn’t mention as part of the penalty already paid was six years of largely inaccurate media coverage, which the university’s athletics programs, especially the money-making football and men’s basketball teams, have weathered remarkably well. But that coverage established a false narrative that continues to this day — and is why those paying attention part-time expect UNC to get the electric chair.
Except no, the African and Afro-American Studies Department that disproportionately attracted athletes to its classes was not created to keep them eligible to compete. And no, not a single UNC coach has been shown to have steered a student into the AFAM classes or to ask that a change of a grade be made to keep an athlete on the field or court. And no, not a single coach or anyone else tied to UNC’s athletics program has even been accused of providing a recruit a benefit if they would sign the dotted line to bring their skills to the Chapel Hill campus.
If any of that had happened, then one or more of the nearly double-digit investigations would have revealed it given the access university officials provided, especially to emails.
UNC copped to some of the allegations, specifically that a faculty chairwoman who advised women’s basketball players provided improper assistance to students and suggested a single grade change during a seven-year period. Jan Boxill, the accused who was subsequently fired, continues to claim scapegoat status.
But the university rejected the NCAA’s allegation of loss of institutional control, the biggest threat to the athletics programs, though basketball and football appear safe from debilitating sanctions.
Fortifying UNC’s case is this Perry Mason moment: A UNC official while in Indianapolis by chance discovered an internal NCAA memo that warns staff it is in tricky territory, saying nothing had been found that “would validate that there was a systematic effort within the African and African American Studies Department motivated by the desire to assist student-athletes with maintaining their eligibility, either in how the courses were created, taught and/or how the grades awarded.”
A hearing is likely in the fall before the NCAA’s Committee of Infractions, which will determine penalties. And while UNC officials appear confident, the NCAA can be arbitrary — and might feel compelled to come down hard because of UNC’s well-known brand and the public’s expectations based largely on ignorance of the truth.
It’s clear, however, that UNC is off the mat and is prepared to go to court if the NCAA overreaches. And the Tar Heels, as their opponents know, have always been good at winning."
http://robesonian.com/opinion/90372/unc-finally-goes-on-defense-against-ncaa
"UNC finally goes on defense against NCAA
The University of North Carolina this week signaled to the NCAA that six years of taking a knee is enough, and sent a warning shot over Indianapolis that it was lawyered up and prepared to defend itself against allegations concerning its athletics programs that it says are inaccurate, inflated and wayward.
Athletics Director Bubba Cunningham, in speaking to the media about the university’s response to the NCAA’s Notice of Allegations, said UNC had failed to meet its own standards by allowing “classes that didn’t meet our rigor,” but said that was an academic issue, and none of the NCAA’s business.
The university also pointed out that massive reforms have been put in place, and apologies extended.
Cunningham hinted that the university wasn’t anxious to self-impose sanctions, apparently believing that the firing of an entire football staff, the forced departures of an athletics director and chancellor, banning itself from two post-season bowl games in football, and forfeiting athletic scholarships, was sufficient penance.
What Cunningham didn’t mention as part of the penalty already paid was six years of largely inaccurate media coverage, which the university’s athletics programs, especially the money-making football and men’s basketball teams, have weathered remarkably well. But that coverage established a false narrative that continues to this day — and is why those paying attention part-time expect UNC to get the electric chair.
Except no, the African and Afro-American Studies Department that disproportionately attracted athletes to its classes was not created to keep them eligible to compete. And no, not a single UNC coach has been shown to have steered a student into the AFAM classes or to ask that a change of a grade be made to keep an athlete on the field or court. And no, not a single coach or anyone else tied to UNC’s athletics program has even been accused of providing a recruit a benefit if they would sign the dotted line to bring their skills to the Chapel Hill campus.
If any of that had happened, then one or more of the nearly double-digit investigations would have revealed it given the access university officials provided, especially to emails.
UNC copped to some of the allegations, specifically that a faculty chairwoman who advised women’s basketball players provided improper assistance to students and suggested a single grade change during a seven-year period. Jan Boxill, the accused who was subsequently fired, continues to claim scapegoat status.
But the university rejected the NCAA’s allegation of loss of institutional control, the biggest threat to the athletics programs, though basketball and football appear safe from debilitating sanctions.
Fortifying UNC’s case is this Perry Mason moment: A UNC official while in Indianapolis by chance discovered an internal NCAA memo that warns staff it is in tricky territory, saying nothing had been found that “would validate that there was a systematic effort within the African and African American Studies Department motivated by the desire to assist student-athletes with maintaining their eligibility, either in how the courses were created, taught and/or how the grades awarded.”
A hearing is likely in the fall before the NCAA’s Committee of Infractions, which will determine penalties. And while UNC officials appear confident, the NCAA can be arbitrary — and might feel compelled to come down hard because of UNC’s well-known brand and the public’s expectations based largely on ignorance of the truth.
It’s clear, however, that UNC is off the mat and is prepared to go to court if the NCAA overreaches. And the Tar Heels, as their opponents know, have always been good at winning."
http://robesonian.com/opinion/90372/unc-finally-goes-on-defense-against-ncaa
Thanks heelbent, I enjoyed reading that. Enough with the bending over, grabbing our ankles, and saying "Thank you sir, may I have another?" The NCAA would be foolish to pursue this further because they are operating beyond their purview and are on very shaky legal ground. They know it, as do we, and it's high time we let them know that enough is e-freakin'-nough!
82ndHawk brought it to my attention this morning. Just send a note to the editor, that should work. I sure plan to.
Just went over to thank him. He recently posted it under the thread title "NOA Response is out". Hope the mods don't mind me doing this but we're all UNC fans and I think he should be congratulated.
Topdeck's argument failed from the start.
Crowder didn't ever "start" any classes.
But then it goes off the rails further but dear sweetness, much good information out there on the entire episode.
Try the Commitment site topdeck, you might just find out a bit on the topic.
Crowder didn't ever "start" any classes.
But then it goes off the rails further but dear sweetness, much good information out there on the entire episode.
Try the Commitment site topdeck, you might just find out a bit on the topic.
I just called Bubba'soffice and left a message of thanks to him and his staff for FINALLY fighting these Ncaa jerks
The "media narrative" that I have discussed in the past is the dominant one and will be hard, if not impossible, to overcome.
The facts and the truth will ultimately win the day andI am glad that Carolina is finally using them.
BTW The # for Bubbais 919 962 8200 if you want to leave a message for him
The "media narrative" that I have discussed in the past is the dominant one and will be hard, if not impossible, to overcome.
The facts and the truth will ultimately win the day andI am glad that Carolina is finally using them.
BTW The # for Bubbais 919 962 8200 if you want to leave a message for him
http://chapelboro.com/sports/chanskys-notebook-did-the-ncaa-bury-evidence
More shenanigans from the NC2A.
More shenanigans from the NC2A.
Yeah, they screwed themselves with that email. It's going to be hard for the COI to ignore that and it would certainly make a difference in court. I think that is why the response was so strong.
So are we in the clear here? Apparently the NCAA will make their final ruling in December or something?
That email is really damning...I am not sure how the NCAA is going to proceed at this point. Carolina has called their bluff and with this type of EVIDENCE and FACTS at its disposal... Carolina is in the much stronger position.
You never know with the NCAA though but my early speculation is that we get the LOIC dropped and some minor penalties enforced
You never know with the NCAA though but my early speculation is that we get the LOIC dropped and some minor penalties enforced
The sooner we get this over with the better. That's when the real recovery in terms of recruiting will start.
Sort of. We're still getting looks and guards have no problem committing to us. It's the big guys. I cannot stress that point enough. We are not getting the Tyler Zeller's, Ed Davis's, John Henson's, Deon Thompson's, Sean May's, or Tyler Hansbrough's of the world and it's maddening considering we will have an immense amount of playing time available next year after Kennedy and Isaiah graduate.
Exactly! When NOBODY can use it against us in their negative recruiting scheme we will see a difference. I don't think we will ever see the one-done crowd flock to Tar Hill country nor do I want us to become a sold out factory like some have done. Don't mind seeing an occasional one and done but I LOVE watching kids like Marcus-Brice-Tyler (Both of them) Deon-Danny etc etc stay with us for 4 years and develop. Just me I know but here today gone tomorrow just isn't what I like to see.
Once this is officially behind UNC, I think recruiting will pick up to an extent but I'm not sure how much. Roy is still gonna have to deal with the negative recruiting aspect where opposing coaches use his age, health and lack of putting one n dones in the nba against him. We need to load up on big men in that 10-30 range because I just don't see many of the top 10 guys coming here routinely because they all believe they are one n done.
KAY is a solid 3 1/2 years older than Roy so I don't think we (or anyone else) can use age as an excuse (reason) ... The others may be valid points though
True, but K gets a major boost from USA basketball that likely offsets his age issue.
Can't even watch the Olympic basketball game with that SOB on the sidelines.
Oh yeah. You know there was a time where Roy owned him on the recruiting trail. But after K was given the task of revitalizing USA basketball after our mishap in 2004, it's been a boon to him in terms of giving him access to the best high school recruits.
Yep, wringing every bit of recruiting advantage they can get out of the LOM's stranglehold on the USA gig.
Similar threads
