I assume "hands down" is a reference to the fact Dontrez Styles couldn't dribble a basketball.
UNC Transfers at Other Schools - How Did They Do?
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Makes an ass out of you not me Dave. Stats don't lie. Year younger, taller and more developed physically with a helluva lot better stats. And UNC don't really need a 3, or an off guard with a great handle .. just one that can actually hit their shots (see stats). Helluva lot better on the boards too .. stat wise.
Actually stats do at times lie. I like Styles and his shot looks much improved to his credit but he plays on a really really bad team so his stats are inflated. I’ve watched some Hoya games and I’m not sure his intensity and basketball IQ fits with this squad but I would take his rebounding
Would you still take Styles considering the log jam it would cause next year with our two young studs coming who will need playing time immediately?
How about Styles or Withers? I think I'd take Styles all day and twice on Sunday given what I've seen so far.
With the way UNC/NCAABB has become who thinks ahead more than 1 season anymore. Damn shame too because there are few things more unfair to the players who think when they sign on it's for more than 1 season. Sucks imo.
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Yes sir .. not even close. Not sure it's that close with Ryan from what we've seen so far.
Can you imagine the coaching pitch these days? "Sure we'll give you a home for your college career." And then the recruits start seeing 4,5,6+ people, and many upper class men leaving every year or so. NIL and the NCAA transfer bs has turned "amateur sports" in to a revolving chit show and it sucks from a purist POV.
True, another bad team. He is playing well and will get a long look at the next level. I think he had 36 against Ohio State right before his ankle injury.
Hopefully Withers eill be ok when he takes that Orlando Melendez costume off.😉
Am I too old for anyone to understand this reference?😜
I am interested in seeing how Styles plays against the upper echelon of Big East schools (UConn, Creighton, Villanova..).
I for one am glad that he's doing well and hope it continues. Not sure that was a possibility with us. Sometimes a fresh start is needed
I for one am glad that he's doing well and hope it continues. Not sure that was a possibility with us. Sometimes a fresh start is needed
I believe the transfers were mutually beneficial! The team is fine and the guys are for the most part doing well! It is nice to see a Win-Win for a change!
This is a useless exercise to compare apples to apples since none of the players who transferred out are playing the same roles as they were here apart from Dmarco Dunn?
Good for Dmarco on his big game against Ohio State though. I feared he was the same player as last year, which would be a bad sign for him. Glad he busted out a bit.
But there are a lot of guys who are producing for teams that aren't going to win a lot. Very hard to compare that like-for-like with UNC this year.
I'm honestly most intrigued with McKoy since we can probably use a big guy. His shooting has started to regress, but I didn't think there was a guy capable of shooting 40% from 3 over a 10-game sample size there.
Good for Dmarco on his big game against Ohio State though. I feared he was the same player as last year, which would be a bad sign for him. Glad he busted out a bit.
But there are a lot of guys who are producing for teams that aren't going to win a lot. Very hard to compare that like-for-like with UNC this year.
I'm honestly most intrigued with McKoy since we can probably use a big guy. His shooting has started to regress, but I didn't think there was a guy capable of shooting 40% from 3 over a 10-game sample size there.
Kerwin Walton has gone from barely playing off the bench, to setting a career high in points and getting a starting spot, in the span of 2 games. Texas Tech lost a player to a season ending injury and Kerwin actually did something with the opportunity.
To me Styles and JWit are basically the same player, JWit is a bit longer but they have the same strengths and the same weaknesses, so IMO we traded a pawn for another pawn. Where we really got a huge pay off is basically trading Nance (no more eligibility) and/or Puff for Ingram, serious upgrade there and Ryan for Caleb is advantage for us and Arizona even with Ryan's jump shooting not being what we expected, kid does so much in other areas that don't show up in the box scores.
Dawson Garcia continuing his strong season. 17.5 points/7.5 boards/ 2 assists. Only area of struggle is 21% 3 point shooting. He is still 45% overall though from the field, and 83% from the line.
Being the #1 option on a bad team seems to be where he's happiest. Minnesota is now #99 in the NET ranking.
The common denominator, except for Caleb, is they are all on bad teams this year. Minnesota's very "meh" team is probably the best of the bunch, maybe VA. Tech?
How much of both RJ and Caleb being better this year is chemistry? The chemistry between them never seemed good to my eye.
To me they were too similar of players with their game, both their strengths and limitations. They each also have better surrounding casts with shooters and a capable point to distribute. Better roster fits for their skill sets.
We couldn't shoot it a lick last year, and it was Caleb or RJ trying to create as the scorer/shoot or slash in similar fashions, but neither was/is a comfortable just handle the O and distribute type.
Well one of them was hitting on (or worse) the others girlfriend, so there's that. I think they did remarkably well together given that drama.
Forgot about Walton and Texas Tech, that's a solid team. How much is he playing, numbers ? (I checked, solid 7th man 3 point specialist numbers - 8 points/2 boards/ 0.5 assists. Plays about 20 minutes. Solid contributor. Seems like Kerwin found his senior year fit. Will follow them more closely.
Yeah, the NET, is still early. VA. Tech is 11 -7 and 3 - 4 in conference. Minnesota is 12 - 6 and 3 - 4 in conference, same type teams to me. That's why I said maybe, VA. Tech.
All the rest are sub .500 struggle bus teams.
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We all knew that Caleb was a guy who could play for anyone in the country. It looks like he's found a better balance to his game this year so credit to him. It looks like this is a win-win.
As for the other guys (I'm focusing on Nickel, Puff, Styles, and Dunn)... They're showing basically what they showed here. Some flashes, some good, some bad. I don't think those 4 players really affect winning all that much.
Puff has been one of the worst players in the country this year. 37/27/64 split is absolutely terrible. Probably not a starting-level high major player. Dmarco is having a classic role-player year—a few really good games. Mostly meh. Some really bad games. 41/33/67 split. The same player that he was here, but getting more minutes now. If they were both really good, Penn State wouldn't be under .500 right now.
I haven't watched Styles enough to see whether he's just putting up numbers on a really bad team or not. Good for him for at least being more productive. Nickel is basically what I expected. Good shooter. Every team can use a good shooter.
We did very well in the transfer portal. It doesn't mean we'll go further than Arizona. But well done.
As for the other guys (I'm focusing on Nickel, Puff, Styles, and Dunn)... They're showing basically what they showed here. Some flashes, some good, some bad. I don't think those 4 players really affect winning all that much.
Puff has been one of the worst players in the country this year. 37/27/64 split is absolutely terrible. Probably not a starting-level high major player. Dmarco is having a classic role-player year—a few really good games. Mostly meh. Some really bad games. 41/33/67 split. The same player that he was here, but getting more minutes now. If they were both really good, Penn State wouldn't be under .500 right now.
I haven't watched Styles enough to see whether he's just putting up numbers on a really bad team or not. Good for him for at least being more productive. Nickel is basically what I expected. Good shooter. Every team can use a good shooter.
We did very well in the transfer portal. It doesn't mean we'll go further than Arizona. But well done.
Puff... Going in to last season Puff was listed at 6'8" and 205lbs... When Puff came to UNC he was listed 6'7" and 185lbs, per the Penn St site Puff is now listed at 6'8" and 205lbs. He was rail thin when he got to UNC, he was rail thin for his time at UNC and guess what, he is still rail thin. I don't think any of us would dispute when I say Puff coming to UNC, Puff after his frosh season, Puff after his soph season, Puff from the day he stepped on campus needed to add weight, needed to put work in to the weight room to gain strength and some bulk.
I was really shocked to see Puff come in at 205lbs to start last season, my candid reaction was does this kid really care about a future in the sport, does he have the dedication to forge it thru hard work? You go in to a season as a guy that had wide open PT in front of him, there was his op, did he really go for it, not in my view, not if he was not going to put in that needed off season work. Part of the reason he was so often hurt was that he was so frail, he did put in work in games but it did not look like he put in the off season work he needed, I was extremely disappointed in that.
I look at High now a bit like I did Puff in his frosh season, kid has some game but he has to fill out his frame for his real game to emerge. High drastically needs to add 10lbs this off season, I would love him to add 15lbs but his frame is going to be hard to add weight to quickly. But add 10 after this season, add 10 more after his soph season and all the sudden he is 6'10" and 235lbs and a much bigger factor for us. That is exactly what Puff should have done, for himself if a pro career was what he really wants. I question how badly he craves a pro career in the sport. Great kid, no offense toward him as a kid at all, just not sure he craves the game for his future. He was and I assume still is a great student and maybe it is his field of study that he craves to go pro in? I wish him well either way!
I was really shocked to see Puff come in at 205lbs to start last season, my candid reaction was does this kid really care about a future in the sport, does he have the dedication to forge it thru hard work? You go in to a season as a guy that had wide open PT in front of him, there was his op, did he really go for it, not in my view, not if he was not going to put in that needed off season work. Part of the reason he was so often hurt was that he was so frail, he did put in work in games but it did not look like he put in the off season work he needed, I was extremely disappointed in that.
I look at High now a bit like I did Puff in his frosh season, kid has some game but he has to fill out his frame for his real game to emerge. High drastically needs to add 10lbs this off season, I would love him to add 15lbs but his frame is going to be hard to add weight to quickly. But add 10 after this season, add 10 more after his soph season and all the sudden he is 6'10" and 235lbs and a much bigger factor for us. That is exactly what Puff should have done, for himself if a pro career was what he really wants. I question how badly he craves a pro career in the sport. Great kid, no offense toward him as a kid at all, just not sure he craves the game for his future. He was and I assume still is a great student and maybe it is his field of study that he craves to go pro in? I wish him well either way!
Kerwin has been starting ever since a player at TT suffered a season ending injury.
OK, I saw he is averaging 20 minutes a game. 7th per game minutes on the team. Rooting for him, he may get more. His stats scream 3 point specialist. Non existent assists, very few boards, and unless he has evolved in this area, dee is a weakness. Almost all points from a very, very good 3ball% taking about 4 a game.
I have not caught a Red Raider game, will tune in. Thanks for the heads up.
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VaTech offense doesn't allow T Nick to completely utilize his whole game in my opinion. They are Iso centric with Padulla dominating the ball as much as any guard in the country. I think Nickel has the ability to create his own shot and get to the ft line more if Tech would alter their offense some.
VA Tech has to play a perfect game within their " System " to beat good teams. If Padulla is on, they seem to play up to him all around, but if he is off or the defense takes him away, Tech does not seem to have an answer.
He along with the others, except for Love, Styles, and Garcia, who are go to guys, are role players. The collective teams are struggling, so maybe they can earn a more featured role to mix things up?
Two MVPs and shooting 50.8% from deep - including 6-9 in their recent loss to Houston. 71.5 TS%.
Not too shabby.
Yeah I understand his role, I just don't nesscesarily agree with it. I don't like how
Va Tech Runs their offense with Padulla. I think Nickel could do more Ala Justin Mutts. Not that type of athlete, but can get to the line with a longer leash. I think it will come as an Jr and Sr.
I said I thought he would average 12-13 ppg this season, he is close.
In the battle of UNC transfers Minnesota and Dawson Garcia went into Penn State and handled the Nittany Lions easily.
Garcia was very good. 20 points on 7/13 shooting, 1/2 from 3, 5/5 from the line.
Puff and Dunn struggled. Puff had 4, Dunn chipped in with 2.
Garcia was very good. 20 points on 7/13 shooting, 1/2 from 3, 5/5 from the line.
Puff and Dunn struggled. Puff had 4, Dunn chipped in with 2.
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Great day of college hoops. Dawson Garcia's not A game, battled. OT came up huge. Kid is an interesting NBA level and along with Mando got 10 finalists Jabbar award for centers? He has struggled from 3 though and that's part of his next level intrigue.
Caleb Love is going to be PAC-10 Player of the Year.
The committee is going to try like heck to match up UNC and Arizona in the Big Dance.
The committee is going to try like heck to match up UNC and Arizona in the Big Dance.
