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That is a legit point and apparent burn. If you had this info why not divulge it instead of dragging out an argument.
I asked it from the very onset of the topic? I thought everyone knew that? We definitely talked about it on this board before.

I was legitimately asking what changed for that to no longer be the case. But, you all are so intent to freak out when someone doesn't just nod their head and say okay that it is crazy.

If he preferred UNC now then why over UK? Why?

“The reason why Kentucky, because the potential my father saw in me, and him knowing that I was going to go to the next level, I definitely see it in Shareef,” Shaq once said on his podcast. “So I would like for my son to play for a coach that is going to teach him next level stuff. I have three in mind: Johnny Jones at LSU because I know him personally; Calipari; and the coach from Michigan State, Tom Izzo.”

Shaq has never mentioned UNC before. I would think you would have asked about this.
 
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I will wait for you to provide quotes that it is literally not exactly as I said. Since the thread is 2 pages that should be extremely easy for you to do.

dude...im on your side here lol


"jericho literally asked "why would it be UNC all of a sudden?" in regards to the notion that Shareef was thought to be a UK commit if it wasnt Arizona. and then Gary did what Gary does"
 
I asked it from the very onset of the topic? I thought everyone knew that? We definitely talked about it on this board before.

I was legitimately asking what changed for that to no longer be the case. But, you all are so intent to freak out when someone doesn't just nod their head and say okay that it is crazy.

If he preferred UNC now then why over UK? Why?
I'm sorry when did I nod and agree? I simply asked a question and made an observation. I wasn't trying to insinuate anything. It was a legit observation.
 
Gary is the Trump of this board. He isn't very tactful in some of the things he says, sometimes he is a bull in a china shop. And he will aggressively defend himself against attacks.

But he is unfairly being singled out by some on this board. If he says up, they say down. There seems to be a vendetta against him, one that he simply can't win due to overpowering numbers.

IMO, he contributes as much or more to this board as any other poster here. And while he doesn't always say it in the most palatable way, there are a few here who lurk to pounce on his every word. IMO, they are just as much at fault as he is for striking back.

I've only been posting for nine years. Perhaps there was a time when we could post diverse opinions without taking it personally, I don't know. But it seems things have become more personal and less intellectual than they used to be. It sure would be nice if we could return to the time when everything we read on a site was taken with a huge grain of salt and people made a personal decision to give credence to that post, or not, with no animosity.
 
Gary...... is unfairly being singled out by some on this board.

IMO, he contributes as much or more to this board as any other poster here. And while he doesn't always say it in the most palatable way, there are a few here who lurk to pounce on his every word. IMO, they are just as much at fault as he is for striking back.

No one contributes more, period.
 
I'm sorry when did I nod and agree? I simply asked a question and made an observation. I wasn't trying to insinuate anything. It was a legit observation.
I didn't say you nodded and agreed. I said I was jumped on for not nodding and agreeing to Gary's initial post by asking that question.
 
Gary is the Trump of this board. He isn't very tactful in some of the things he says, sometimes he is a bull in a china shop. And he will aggressively defend himself against attacks.

But he is unfairly being singled out by some on this board. If he says up, they say down. There seems to be a vendetta against him, one that he simply can't win due to overpowering numbers.

IMO, he contributes as much or more to this board as any other poster here. And while he doesn't always say it in the most palatable way, there are a few here who lurk to pounce on his every word. IMO, they are just as much at fault as he is for striking back.

I've only been posting for nine years. Perhaps there was a time when we could post diverse opinions without taking it personally, I don't know. But it seems things have become more personal and less intellectual than they used to be. It sure would be nice if we could return to the time when everything we read on a site was taken with a huge grain of salt and people made a personal decision to give credence to that post, or not, with no animosity.
Thanks Arch, you’ve summed up my thoughts on this thread completely.
 
Because he's condescending, snarky when someone doesn't agree with him, and a giant asshole.

I don't quarrel with his x's and o's. It's the way he acts like he can do no wrong.
So... let the record show that you (of all posters) called me a "giant asshole". Nice.

Tell ya what, why don't you tell me the last time I sought out one of your myriad nonsensical posts to attack you? Lemme help ya. You can't, because here's the thing: As long as you aren't attacking me, I happily ignore you.

However, now you just crossed the line... but y'know what? Out of respect for my friend @mikeirbyusa and his noble efforts at restoring civility, I'm gonna let it go. You're the one who has to live with being you... bless your heart.
 
So... let the record show that you (of all posters) called me a "giant asshole". Nice.

Tell ya what, why don't you tell me the last time I sought out one of your myriad nonsensical posts to attack you? Lemme help ya. You can't, because here's the thing: As long as you aren't attacking me, I happily ignore you.

However, now you just crossed the line... but y'know what? Out of respect for my friend @mikeirbyusa and his noble efforts at restoring civility, I'm gonna let it go. You're the one who has to live with being you... bless your heart.

It's probably that frowning Moe avatar that sets everyone off. They just know from that you gotta be a sourpuss, the male counterpoint of a virago. :D
 
Apparently asking a question is jumping on him. Lol. Okee dokee. Don't let me see any of you ask a question down the road.
My bad. How could I dare not anticipate that you might have questions when I was being given a piece of info. Tell ya what, why don't you write down every question you can think of for any possible scenario or player and send them to me. I'll keep em in my pocket for the next odd chance I get offered some info, and that way I can make sure jericho gets all his questions answered by whomever is passing on the info.

Seriously?
 
My bad. How could I dare not anticipate that you might have questions when I was being given a piece of info. Tell ya what, why don't you write down every question you can think of for any possible scenario or player and send them to me. I'll keep em in my pocket for the next odd chance I get offered some info, and that way I can make sure jericho gets all his questions answered by whomever is passing on the info.

Seriously?

Exhibit A, ladies and gentlemen.
 
So... let the record show that you (of all posters) called me a "giant asshole". Nice.

Tell ya what, why don't you tell me the last time I sought out one of your myriad nonsensical posts to attack you? Lemme help ya. You can't, because here's the thing: As long as you aren't attacking me, I happily ignore you.

However, now you just crossed the line... but y'know what? Out of respect for my friend @mikeirbyusa and his noble efforts at restoring civility, I'm gonna let it go. You're the one who has to live with being you... bless your heart.

If the shoe fits, pal. I’ve called you much worse in the past.

Second, way to hide behind mike. You’ve proven yourself to be a giant tattle tale as well.

Third, your second paragraph highlights everything anyone needs to know about you. I don’t agree with you much of the time, therefore whatever I say must be nonsensical, right?

Here’s what I want to know: where is it stated that Shaq wanted his son at unc when no one else has said anything of the sort?
 
If the shoe fits, pal. I’ve called you much worse in the past.

Second, way to hide behind mike. You’ve proven yourself to be a giant tattle tale as well.

Third, your second paragraph highlights everything anyone needs to know about you. I don’t agree with you much of the time, therefore whatever I say must be nonsensical, right?

Here’s what I want to know: where is it stated that Shaq wanted his son at unc when no one else has said anything of the sort?
You're kidding, right? "Where is it stated"? That's what the info was. It came from Shaq's mouth. Seriously, what is wrong with you?

And FYI, I ain't hiding behind anything.
 
It is really hard to not laugh at your response to me, Gary. However , I will put that aside for now.

I figured you had more of a conversation with the person you heard this from instead and may have had covered that in your conversation. Apparently not.

Okay thanks!

So the answer was. "I don't know. It wasn't something we talked about!".

Thanks again!
 
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It is really hard to not laugh at your response to me, Gary. However , I will put that aside for now.

I figured you had more of a conversation with the person you heard this from instead and may have had covered that in your conversation. Apparently not.

Okay thanks!

So the answer was. "I don't know. It wasn't something we talked about!".

Thanks again!
In all seriousness, bud, why would I or anybody have asked that, no matter the length of the conversation? I got info from a good source and the words were Shaq's, so I have every reason to take that at face value, as opposed to something that may have shown up on some recruiting site sometime in the past.

Beyond that, I've got nothing against you, but you know as well as I do that question was argumentative.
 
In all seriousness, bud, why would I or anybody have asked that, no matter the length of the conversation? I got info from a good source and the words were Shaq's, so I have every reason to take that at face value, as opposed to something that may have shown up on some recruiting site sometime in the past.

Beyond that, I've got nothing against you, but you know as well as I do that question was argumentative.
You do realize that came from Shaq's podcast, right?

It doesn't matter. I was just curious if something changed for him to prefer UNC. He stated he preferred Kentucky LSU and MSU but preferred his son not follow his footsteps to LSU.

His son preferred UK, MSU, and Duke initially.
 
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Gary is the Trump of this board. He isn't very tactful in some of the things he says, sometimes he is a bull in a china shop. And he will aggressively defend himself against attacks.

But he is unfairly being singled out by some on this board. If he says up, they say down. There seems to be a vendetta against him, one that he simply can't win due to overpowering numbers.

IMO, he contributes as much or more to this board as any other poster here. And while he doesn't always say it in the most palatable way, there are a few here who lurk to pounce on his every word. IMO, they are just as much at fault as he is for striking back.

I've only been posting for nine years. Perhaps there was a time when we could post diverse opinions without taking it personally, I don't know. But it seems things have become more personal and less intellectual than they used to be. It sure would be nice if we could return to the time when everything we read on a site was taken with a huge grain of salt and people made a personal decision to give credence to that post, or not, with no animosity.

This is by far the worst comparison you could've given.
 
You do realize that came from Shaq's podcast, right?

It doesn't matter. I was just curious if something changed for him to prefer UNC. He stated he preferred Kentucky LSU and MSU but preferred his son not follow his footsteps to LSU.

His son preferred UK, MSU, and Duke initially.
Look, I have no issue with someone asking questions about whatever if I was making some sort of assertion or recruiting prediction or such --- hell, I would expect it --- , but throwing an unaswerable question at a static piece of information is like walking outside and asking the sky why it's raining. It just comes off as arguing with the info itself.

Above, you suggested how I should have responded to you, let me return the favor: "I read before that Shaq preferred UK or MSU. I wonder what changed his mind." And my response (if any) would have been something like "I have no idea" or "That wasn't mentioned".
 
You do realize that came from Shaq's podcast, right?

It doesn't matter. I was just curious if something changed for him to prefer UNC. He stated he preferred Kentucky LSU and MSU but preferred his son not follow his footsteps to LSU.

His son preferred UK, MSU, and Duke initially.

Standing outside of this conflict, I would offer this much. Recruiting is a slippery slope, what a kid or his parents say, think, or feel today is subject to change as they look deeper. IDK how the time frame for what Shaq may have said on a pod cast matches up with the time line of what gary understood came from Shaq's own lips? I would guess 1 side of this is more current than the other and that maybe along the line Shaq's opinion changed, I don't know which is more accurate today.
 
So... let the record show that you (of all posters) called me a "giant asshole". Nice.

Tell ya what, why don't you tell me the last time I sought out one of your myriad nonsensical posts to attack you? Lemme help ya. You can't, because here's the thing: As long as you aren't attacking me, I happily ignore you.

However, now you just crossed the line... but y'know what? Out of respect for my friend @mikeirbyusa and his noble efforts at restoring civility, I'm gonna let it go. You're the one who has to live with being you... bless your heart.

That is just not true. You have attacked numerous people and their posts in the past simply because they disagree with you. They didn't attack. They just disagreed and you would become this condescending uber-sensitive know it all who thinks everyone should agree with. It's a shame because you know a little about the game. The thing is, other people do as well and something they may be correct about something you disagree with. Your inability to handle this (along with the sycophants) is what makes you so polarizing and why so many have stopped posting here. It is no great loss though because of that, which is a shame.
 
That is just not true. You have attacked numerous people and their posts in the past simply because they disagree with you. They didn't attack. They just disagreed and you would become this condescending uber-sensitive know it all who thinks everyone should agree with. It's a shame because you know a little about the game. The thing is, other people do as well and something they may be correct about something you disagree with. Your inability to handle this (along with the sycophants) is what makes you so polarizing and why so many have stopped posting here. It is no great loss though because of that, which is a shame.

@gary-7

This post pretty much sums up in a nutshell why I and many others get combative with you. This board can be a place for all thoughts and opinions, but it’s a two way street.
 
@gary-7

This post pretty much sums up in a nutshell why I and many others get combative with you. This board can be a place for all thoughts and opinions, but it’s a two way street.
As expected you're citing an extremely non-credible source --- only slightly above you in that regard --- but that's your problem. Bottom line is I stepped away from this, yet you continue to attack me, and even tagged me to stir up trouble. I'm not sure what your problem is, but you are in obvious need of psychological help. Quit stalking me and get a life.
 
That is just not true. You have attacked numerous people and their posts in the past simply because they disagree with you. They didn't attack. They just disagreed and you would become this condescending uber-sensitive know it all who thinks everyone should agree with. It's a shame because you know a little about the game. The thing is, other people do as well and something they may be correct about something you disagree with. Your inability to handle this (along with the sycophants) is what makes you so polarizing and why so many have stopped posting here. It is no great loss though because of that, which is a shame.
False in every aspect, and the fact you used the term "sycophants" to describe posters who may happen to agree with me on a given opinion is an insult to whomever it's directed at. Perhaps (unlike you apparently) I actually respect their opinions, and we can have civilized conversations and disagreements without attacking each other.
 
One thing I'll add as a fellow veteran to THR squabbles...

Doing the "high road" thing after you've already laced in 1-2 more insults before it in the same post isn't really taking the high road. It's like a little kid ending it after making sure he's gotten in the last word.

This happened quite a few times in this case.
 
One thing I'll add as a fellow veteran to THR squabbles...

Doing the "high road" thing after you've already laced in 1-2 more insults before it in the same post isn't really taking the high road. It's like a little kid ending it after making sure he's gotten in the last word.

This happened quite a few times in this case.
I'm not the one who keeps beating the dead horse. This thread should have died long ago.
 
As expected you're citing an extremely non-credible source --- only slightly above you in that regard --- but that's your problem. Bottom line is I stepped away from this, yet you continue to attack me, and even tagged me to stir up trouble. I'm not sure what your problem is, but you are in obvious need of psychological help. Quit stalking me and get a life.

Do you not recognize an olive branch when you see one? You have a weird definition of stalking. For once, I’m not trying to stir shit up. Merely telling you what we see from our prospective. This board isn’t yours to decide what to do with. If someone has a constructive disagreement or criticism, that isn’t you getting attacked, and it’s not a license to be condescending.

@coryfly is one of the most reasonable, level headed posters here, so not sure what issue you take with him.
 
So... let the record show that you (of all posters) called me a "giant asshole". Nice.

Tell ya what, why don't you tell me the last time I sought out one of your myriad nonsensical posts to attack you? Lemme help ya. You can't, because here's the thing: As long as you aren't attacking me, I happily ignore you.

However, now you just crossed the line... but y'know what? Out of respect for my friend @mikeirbyusa and his noble efforts at restoring civility, I'm gonna let it go. You're the one who has to live with being you... bless your heart.

Insult, insult, going to let it die, insult.

If you really want it to die just say I'm done and stop checking the thread.
 
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Do you not recognize an olive branch when you see one? You have a weird definition of stalking. For once, I’m not trying to stir shit up. Merely telling you what we see from our prospective. This board isn’t yours to decide what to do with. If someone has a constructive disagreement or criticism, that isn’t you getting attacked, and it’s not a license to be condescending.

@coryfly is one of the most reasonable, level headed posters here, so not sure what issue you take with him.
If you really wanted to extend an olive branch, you wouldn't be tagging me to take yet another shot.
 
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