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We Need You Hicks!

GoNtheDistance

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For goodness sake son please show up the rest of the year. To put it nicely you have absolutely sucked lately and are much better than you are showing. Figure it out. Your play will be a big factor in a special post season or one that is defined by missed opportunity. Sending good mojo your way.....
 
He seems to have the basketball IQ of a middle school player!
Most of his fouls are so obvious you could call them from the upper deck!
 
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He seems to have the basketball IQ of a middle school player!
Most of his fouls are so obvious you could call them from the upper deck!

Having to deal with "middle school" officiating for 4 years didn't help.

Hicks get 2 crap calls every game, which makes him afraid to play loose and with confidence.

Tonight was so obvious. They have killed his confidence.
 
He's got to be stressed knowing he will be pulled from a game by Roy if he doesn't play tough defense and knowing if he plays tough defense he'll get called for ticky tack fouls that nobody else is called for and get benched anyway.
 
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where's a mid range jumper?...as a senior, as a hopeful draft pick-he should be a marksman from FT line extended..I agree on D..he's lost between being in position and blocking the shot..being mentally tough is just as much as part of the game as physical potential
 
He brings alot of the fouls on himself by being out of position and constantly having to recover and at other times he just don't move his feet!

The bad part is that he has gained a reputation with ACC officials as a fouler and that sucks. But like I have always said the ACC officiating is nothing more than one make up call after another and the teams are not even relevant!
 
at this point-get your money's worth..dook...whack somebody)))..nothing crazy, but leave no doubt...won't happen, but senior last game reg season
 
Go to him early on offense and you will see a different player. Bigs need touches early, our guards don't understand that at times.

No one wants to run up and down the court watching you jack up shots.
 
I think it is both in his head as well as fact that he is under a microscope, he just is not going to get the close call go his way. At this point when he picks up his first foul in the first half, I would sit him for the rest of the half, would even consider, not starting him or putting him in the game in the first 5mins. He has to get the point that when you are beat on a play that sometimes it is better to let it go rather than pick up the foul in the first half. Really concerning is when he picks up his first foul he is going to pick up another one very quickly.

Hicks picking up his second foul in the first half takes him out of the rest of the game, Roy has to limit him to no more than 1 in the first half of games. Ride Tony and Luke in the first half and Hicks in the second.
 
I agree, he obviously starts Saturday but bringing him off the bench in the ACCT would be worth a try.
 
Isaiah has developed a reputation as a guy who fouls a lot. And that reputation may lead to a few more fouls being called on him. But if we're honest, I think we have to admit that most of his fouls are of his own making. I don't think I can remember another player that continued to make the same mistakes for four years. His basketball IQ is nonexistent when it comes to playing defense. The bad news is that we can't win it all without better play from Isaiah. The good news is that it's never too late for the light to come on for Isaiah. One can only hope that he and Joel will snap out of their slumps in time to lead us to the promised land.
 
At this point when he picks up his first foul in the first half, I would sit him for the rest of the half
You really think he should sit for 19 minutes in the first half? ;)
Yeah, let him play.

At this point, it doesn't help him and it doesn't help the team to take him out when he picks up quick fouls.

Unless he's committing fouls because he's winded, leave him in. Stop punishing him for things he obviously can't control. Let him play without the fear that he will get yanked every time he fouls.

If he fouls out in the first half, so be it.
 
...would even consider, not starting him or putting him in the game in the first 5mins.
I like this suggestion. He'll be fresher than the opposition. He (and Roy) will have had a chance to study the opposition and perhaps adjust how to defend (or even change defensive assignment) without picking up a foul first.

Might not help, but worth a try.
 
Was talking to my brother this morning and was saying that I think Roy should just tell Hicks, you are going to come off the bench and play about 10-12 minutes a game. Just go out there and play with reckless abandon for the limited minutes and don't think about the fouls any longer. Start Bradley in his place, and hope that the Isiah who played behind Brice will show back up as he won't have to carry the burden of being a starter. He has clearly struggled in that role this season.
 
With the way he has been playing I would consider starting Bradley and bringing Hicks off the bench so maybe he could get a look at how the game is being called before going in picking up 2 fouls before the first TV timeout!

Maybe a change in approach would be good for him but, Roy knows his team better than we do.
 
Isaiah doesn't move his feet well enough and is constantly out of position defensively. And when his man gets a half step on him, he doesn't have the mental discipline to back off and let him go by. If he hasn't learned that by the end of his senior year, I have doubts that he will anytime soon. And that's a damn shame.

Perhaps it would help Isaiah to come off the bench, after he's had time to observe what the other team is trying to do offensively and defensively. Whatever the staff has told/taught Isaiah about playing defense, it's not working. So we need a different approach, one specifically geared to Isaiah.

Should it be letting him play as hard as possible without worrying about fouls? Should we continue to start him and bring him out if he gets two fouls in the first half? Or bring him off the bench? I don't have a clue. I hope Roy does.
 
Isaiah doesn't move his feet well enough and is constantly out of position defensively. And when his man gets a half step on him, he doesn't have the mental discipline to back off and let him go by. If he hasn't learned that by the end of his senior year, I have doubts that he will anytime soon. And that's a damn shame.

Perhaps it would help Isaiah to come off the bench, after he's had time to observe what the other team is trying to do offensively and defensively. Whatever the staff has told/taught Isaiah about playing defense, it's not working. So we need a different approach, one specifically geared to Isaiah.

Should it be letting him play as hard as possible without worrying about fouls? Should we continue to start him and bring him out if he gets two fouls in the first half? Or bring him off the bench? I don't have a clue. I hope Roy does.

LOL did you read my 2 post on this topic and copy them and put them together and post it?

Great minds think alike!
 
I started the thread so I'll chime back in here because I see both sides of the coin to a certain extent but also feel we give Hicks a little too much benefit of the doubt sometimes. Meaning, yes I do think he collects a few fouls here and there that are marginal, but as others have said, when you are routinely out of position and do just absolutely stupid shit on the defensive end, you will NOT get the benefit of the doubt any time there's the slightest bit of contact in the post. It's just the way it is. The sticking point here is that as a 4th year player at Carolina who has played significant minutes the last few years, there is no excuse for his general lack of awareness/basketball IQ on the defensive end. It is literally mind boggling. I can't recall a Carolina post player who is more inept at staying with his man, maintaining interior defensive position than this kid. Most all his fouls come from a few scenarios. He gets caught watching the ball and his man slips behind him thus walling him off at the rim. Rather than take the "loss" and give up a 2, he will foul every single time by reaching over the top to try and block the shot. The other scenario is where he faces an athletic big who has a face up game who stretches him out a bit. Hicks is athletic but for whatever reason simply can not stay in front of his man by moving his feet. Opposing big faces up on Hicks and take hicks off the dribble and hicks bumps extends his arms to nudge him off course, reaches, or tries to contest the shot horizontally and not vertically. It is a foul every time and not a ticky tack foul. It really is a foul. I wouldn't go as extreme to say hey take him out the minute he picks up foul #1 because he turns into a head case, but I do think there's an element there where if he gets in foul trouble in half 1, he's a non factor in half 2 no matter what or at least that's been the norm here over the last month. To be candid, he's been a big let down. If we look how well we have played in a few games over the last few weeks, Hicks has been non existent. Just think how much of a machine we'd be if we get anything from Hicks resembling his per game averages that he built the first half of the year. I'm not a fan of late season line up changes, but I'm also not opposed to Tony Bradley getting a start in the ACC tournament to just see what it looked like. Hicks is going to play minutes, we just have to figure out how to maximize the minutes we are able to get him before he fouls out or gets in foul trouble. Hicks in foul trouble is almost a given.
 
I started the thread so I'll chime back in here because I see both sides of the coin to a certain extent but also feel we give Hicks a little too much benefit of the doubt sometimes. Meaning, yes I do think he collects a few fouls here and there that are marginal, but as others have said, when you are routinely out of position and do just absolutely stupid shit on the defensive end, you will NOT get the benefit of the doubt any time there's the slightest bit of contact in the post. It's just the way it is. The sticking point here is that as a 4th year player at Carolina who has played significant minutes the last few years, there is no excuse for his general lack of awareness/basketball IQ on the defensive end. It is literally mind boggling. I can't recall a Carolina post player who is more inept at staying with his man, maintaining interior defensive position than this kid. Most all his fouls come from a few scenarios. He gets caught watching the ball and his man slips behind him thus walling him off at the rim. Rather than take the "loss" and give up a 2, he will foul every single time by reaching over the top to try and block the shot. The other scenario is where he faces an athletic big who has a face up game who stretches him out a bit. Hicks is athletic but for whatever reason simply can not stay in front of his man by moving his feet. Opposing big faces up on Hicks and take hicks off the dribble and hicks bumps extends his arms to nudge him off course, reaches, or tries to contest the shot horizontally and not vertically. It is a foul every time and not a ticky tack foul. It really is a foul. I wouldn't go as extreme to say hey take him out the minute he picks up foul #1 because he turns into a head case, but I do think there's an element there where if he gets in foul trouble in half 1, he's a non factor in half 2 no matter what or at least that's been the norm here over the last month. To be candid, he's been a big let down. If we look how well we have played in a few games over the last few weeks, Hicks has been non existent. Just think how much of a machine we'd be if we get anything from Hicks resembling his per game averages that he built the first half of the year. I'm not a fan of late season line up changes, but I'm also not opposed to Tony Bradley getting a start in the ACC tournament to just see what it looked like. Hicks is going to play minutes, we just have to figure out how to maximize the minutes we are able to get him before he fouls out or gets in foul trouble. Hicks in foul trouble is almost a given.
tl;dr version: Hicks gonna Hicks.
 
With the way he has been playing I would consider starting Bradley and bringing Hicks off the bench so maybe he could get a look at how the game is being called before going in picking up 2 fouls before the first TV timeout!

Maybe a change in approach would be good for him but, Roy knows his team better than we do.

One thing for dead certain! Hicks will start Saturday.
 
I believe bringing him off the bench would kill whatever confidence he has less and I don't believe Roy would do that.. he will push him to fight thru it. But I said in a previous post that Hicks bball IQ doesn't always seem to be on par. Do I think some of the calls he gets are due to the rep that he has developed.. Yes... they seem to expect him to foul and are anticipating it which ticks me off.. but a good amount of his fouls are self inflicted. Unfortunately now he's playing with his mind of not fouling out and its effecting him on both ends. I'm surprised Roy hasn't mentioned publicly that the refs are treating him unfairly at times but Roy isn't one to make excuses even if he believes that's the case. I hope the young fella pulls himself out of it. Hate to see a good kid like him struggle the way he is.
 
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